discussion Abandoned VN Ren'Py DAZ Lost & Bound [0.4 Public] [Twisted Moon Games]

[Demiurge299]

changelog looks pretty short so far, but the models look good, and I'm a sucker for twins, 100% keeping an eye on this one.

 

[-CookieMonster666-]

@TwistedMoony, FYI the stats screen apparently expects multiples of 2, which isn't always the case. When we've only met an odd number of characters, it throws the attached error. For example, the first scene of Sue at school has her meeting up with Bella. Right after Bella's been added, you can click the Stats icon to see the error. I am using v0.2.1, having started a new game.

Also, as an aside, is there a reason Sue knows Isabella as Bella, but the notification says "Isa added to stats"? Does the MC know her as Isa instead or something? It's not clear, but fortunately if you figure her full first name is probably Isabella it's not hard to put two and two together.

 

[TwistedMoony]

@TwistedMoony, FYI the stats screen apparently expects multiples of 2, which isn't always the case. When we've only met an odd number of characters, it throws the attached error. For example, the first scene of Sue at school has her meeting up with Bella. Right after Bella's been added, you can click the Stats icon to see the error. I am using v0.2.1, having started a new game.

Also, as an aside, is there a reason Sue knows Isabella as Bella, but the notification says "Isa added to stats"? Does the MC know her as Isa instead or something? It's not clear, but fortunately if you figure her full first name is probably Isabella it's not hard to put two and two together.

Looking into it right now... but I don't get any errors

Spoiler: Alex introduction

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Spoiler: Bella introduction

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And I used 0.2.1 as well and new game and there were no errors showing for me. So this seems to be odd...
Edit: since this is not my code but Shaddy's I send him a DM on Discord, I have no idea where to look.

 

[Oh Dick]

That should indeed do the trick.

Yup, it did. Thanx bro.

 

[Deleted member 61489]

Feeling stupid, but where do you check stats? I can't find the stats function.

 

[TwistedMoony]

Feeling stupid, but where do you check stats? I can't find the stats function.

When you do start a new game, (which is needed for this update) top right corner.

 

[lillo]

Loved the update and loved the game! The only thing that puzzles me a little bit is that I'm struggling a bit to place the girls' ages, since

Spoiler

despite them looking basically teens, it'd be weird them to be looking for a job or stuff at such young age

 

[TwistedMoony]

Loved the update and loved the game! The only thing that puzzles me a little bit is that I'm struggling a bit to place the girls' ages, since

Spoiler

despite them looking basically teens, it'd be weird them to be looking for a job or stuff at such young age

If you're talking about

Spoiler

Lily, who is looking for an internship (not really work)

that seems to be a normal thing. Not only where I am from but also in the US.

 

[lillo]

Yeah, that's what I was referring to...that's why I dunno well which age to attribute to the girls XD

 

[Nastastic]

There are internships for high schoolers. So she is likely to be at least 14 years of age.

 

[lillo]

Didn't know they started so early

 

[Lefty]

I started hitting errors as MC got home from work, and started talking with Lily and the twins. 0.2.1 was out before I started 0.2, and I continued play from a 0.1 save.

I was checking to see if anyone else was having issues, and saw the mention of "read the changelog" in a previous post. People don't always read the changelog, so you might want to put a note in the OP right above the download links saying that you recommend starting a new game if playing from a 0.1 save. Hiding it in the changelog is just going to lead to more people reporting errors that can be avoided.

 

[-CookieMonster666-]

I started hitting errors as MC got home from work, and started talking with Lily and the twins. 0.2.1 was out before I started 0.2, and I continued play from a 0.1 save.

I was checking to see if anyone else was having issues, and saw the mention of "read the changelog" in a previous post. People don't always read the changelog, so you might want to put a note in the OP right above the download links saying that you recommend starting a new game if playing from a 0.1 save. Hiding it in the changelog is just going to lead to more people reporting errors that can be avoided.

I guess I'm just weird that way, then, but if I get an error with old saves and don't see anything on the OP outside of spoilers, I immediately go to the changelog. It seems pretty common for developers to say when a restart is required in their changelogs, whether they include that note on the OP separately or not. So I agree that a note on the OP would be very helpful, but I would also say never to forget to check the changelog if you don't see a special notice like you might expect.

 

[Lefty]

I guess I'm just weird that way, then, but if I get an error with old saves and don't see anything on the OP outside of spoilers, I immediately go to the changelog. It seems pretty common for developers to say when a restart is required in their changelogs, whether they include that note on the OP separately or not. So I agree that a note on the OP would be very helpful, but I would also say never to forget to check the changelog if you don't see a special notice like you might expect.

What I saw was a bunch of people reporting errors, and the dev telling people the same thing over and over, start a new game. Starting a game over can be a pretty big thing, but with the second chapter it's not a big deal. I checked OP to see if that advice was anywhere obvious, it wasn't. I didn't even think of checking the changelog because most devs put a note like that where it can be seen, not hidden under a spoiler button. Then I came across the post saying to read the changelog, and sure enough there it was.

Even with a note over the links, there will be people who don't read it, but it should still cut down a lot of avoidable error reports.

 

[TwistedMoony]

Alright,... I hope we won't need to do that again, a new start
But rest assured I do keep the changelog and I'd advise to check it every time
I have new things planned for 0.3 (just cosmetics) and hope that after this one, we don't need a new restart. (Yes, I find them annoying as well when playing AVNs).

 

[D4WN5_KN1GH7]

If you're talking about

Spoiler

Lily, who is looking for an internship (not really work)

that seems to be a normal thing. Not only where I am from but also in the US.

it is a thing, for wealthy kids, or super high end private schools. so most people here in America probably don't understand it that well and even then the majority of internship programs are for college kids

 

[angband]

Feeling stupid, but where do you check stats? I can't find the stats function.

When you do start a new game, (which is needed for this update) top right corner.

Also, it doesn't appear until you hover your mouse over it, so if you are just looking for it, it can be a bit confusing.

 

[Lefty]

it is a thing, for wealthy kids, or super high end private schools. so most people here in America probably don't understand it that well and even then the majority of internship programs are for college kids

It's not just for wealthy kids or high end schools in the US. There are plenty of internships that accept kids of high school age, the kid just has to be ambitious enough to go out and find one. A common one is as a page for a politician. A job that gave us the terrible joke: Why doesn't the senator use a bookmark? He just bends over the page.

 

[derodius]

great set up and love the idea of the game so far. really hope this gets finished but not too soon because the more game the better

 

[D4WN5_KN1GH7]

It's not just for wealthy kids or high end schools in the US. There are plenty of internships that accept kids of high school age, the kid just has to be ambitious enough to go out and find one. A common one is as a page for a politician. A job that gave us the terrible joke: Why doesn't the senator use a bookmark? He just bends over the page.

i am not saying the dont exist im saying they are unknown. its only the over achievers who would know about them. average student is not going to have any clue.