discussion Incest Games Banned on Steam

[kuraiken]

There are a lot of gamers billions and they use CC for many other things than games too. As far as I know mastercard and paypal still have to answer to investors.
There are options like buying steam wallet credit locally and banktransfer by proxy other than visa / mastercard.

I understand convincing people might be impossible, especially in this day and age where line between reality and fiction is blurred, censorship, misinformation, overtly virtual signaling is rampant. It is only going get worse since AI can better process the data, even being conscious of own actions is a good start. At least then there is a chance to change habits for better.

Most of those "gamers" are mobile gamers. The people that literally PAY to progress or win. The clowns that lost us the battle for non-exploitative monetization ages ago.
They're not going to forgo the convenience of paying easily to instead direct debit or something. And the same is true for most other players. They don't want to fill out a formula for every single sale, nor can platforms necessarily even offer those, when those transfers are international and may require vastly different legal standards in what information is gathered and how it can be stored depending on the country and bank.

And that won't hurt credit cards. Not when normal people still pay largely everything with their credit cards. So you can't "force" them to change their ways due to "voting with your wallet", all you can do is ensure they're no longer a payment option on the platform, ensuring they cannot limit the platforms content.
That still leaves platforms all of a sudden with vastly more uncomfortable payment models that will cost the platform a hundred fold more revenue than the censorship did. Again, those platforms want to make money. If they have to choose between censorsing games and still making most of the money, or kicking off easy payment models and ending up with sales cut in half or worse? They'll pick the censorship 10 times out of 10.

This is not viable. You cannot personal-behaviour the problem away. You need government regulations. Nothing else works.

 

[trc450]

Most of those "gamers" are mobile gamers. The people that literally PAY to progress or win. The clowns that lost us the battle for non-exploitative monetization ages ago.
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This is not viable. You cannot personal-behaviour the problem away. You need government regulations. Nothing else works.

You are right that it in itself does not hurt them a lot, but it gives a chance for other payments system than visa / mastercard and their banking allies. No point feeding the system if you can reduce it.
Changing regulations would be a quick 'fix', but far more difficult in current climate. Media literacy is abysmal, you can't expect people to understand what they are voting for, instead they are 'moved' by simple small emotional overblown issues (in grand scheme).

For long term, people would not only have to get media literate, but change their though patterns from emotional knee-jerk reactions to rational or causal reasoning. Serious mental hurdle to be able to distinguish reality from fiction, and to be open to things existing outside comfort zone.

I still think it is better to vote with wallet, no need to shame anyone doing otherwise.

 

[z_shadowalker]

I am saddened by this, but hardly able to say it surprises me. Steam is a great platform but because of its popularity it was only a matter of time imo.

 

[Chelsticksp]

Maybe it's not the best idea to put adult games on Steam in the first place. There has to be better options out there.

 

[kuraiken]

Maybe it's not the best idea to put adult games on Steam in the first place. There has to be better options out there.

I sometimes wonder whether people are capeable of basic thought.

I'm starting to believe the world is inhabited by 12 year olds that don't know you can private your profile and what game you're playing, and have no idea of basic economic principles such as how important the market size share is. But yes, do go on with your clever thoughts.

 

[Republican Bear]

Mature themed games can no longer do Early Access on Steam as well. The censorship tightens and grows stronger..

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[Prexhi]

Mature themed games can no longer do Early Access on Steam as well. The censorship tightens and grows stronger..

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Crazy that this all started because of like 12 people in Australia

 

[trc450]

Crazy that this all started because of like 12 people in Australia

Common misconception, it is deeper and global mostly combined effort of big corporations "Online security / safety and trust positions." If you look who push this censorship and how they connected, it usually boils to these and activity groups in guise as non-profit organizations.

In case of Collective shout they are generally catering to misandrist women (and men) gathering names and making few emails. I would not give them much credit.

 

[pike]

It was a matter of time. The platform is too big to ignore that content

 

[MattShizzle]

We'd be better off if they just didn't accept porn content at all. Too many games got ruined by making them acceptable for Steam.

 

[jkj34]

We'd be better off if they just didn't accept porn content at all. Too many games got ruined by making them acceptable for Steam.

That is a broad term that would kill everything past a T rating


Remember the act of kissing can be considered adult/porn material.


In the countires that are pushing that agenda i can say the like of any rpg with romance is behind a AGE curtain or just gone.