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Can someone explain to me why subscibestar exists or itch when they became the same as patreon or steam?

If Gabby is not a love interest at 19 and in college why the hell is she even in the game. Why tease the sister as a love interest, if they will pull a lucy with Charlie Brown. Watch there be no incest.
Nah see once again your sister is supposed to be a lesbian and at one point was supposed to be interested in a few of your girls.

Once again don't know if that still is the plan as we all know the developer has remade his original idea.

Still she was never supposed to be an LI anyway. 🤷‍♂️
 
none of them yet, because the rework hasn't caught up so if you've already seen the part where the MC bails his sis out of jail in the old version that's pretty much still it. Arguably the rework isn't worth bothering with, too much shit changed to where it no longer has kinks that just about any other AVN doesn't have, even the SS version.
I think i played it a long time ago, but I don't remember anything about bailing anyone out of jail lol. I'm assuming it's being reworked to be Patreon friendly? Aka removing all the good stuff so noone gets butthurt?
 
I think i played it a long time ago, but I don't remember anything about bailing anyone out of jail lol. I'm assuming it's being reworked to be Patreon friendly? Aka removing all the good stuff so noone gets butthurt?
There's 2 different but not AVNs to deal with that. Friends In Need is the SS version that used to have rape, incest (planned), and everything else that makes an AVN worthwhile that Patreon cries about. Friends Indeed is the shitty Patreon version with all the good stuff removed and the dark/incest/etc patch only works with the SS version. Though after the rework there's not much difference between them I imagine, as for one even the patched SS version Gabby no longer has an age setter and was taken out of school and put in a college like every other shitty AVN not worth giving money to.
 
I will play devil's advocate here, but I feel those who do this as a living will need to adjust to the times (as a bunch of these devs are now doing by following new terms of service for these platforms) or fold completely. Yes it is unfortunate that they don't make the games they or us want, but some is better than none. and in worst case scenarios legal consequences can occur. So them "not having a spine" may also be them "feeling the risk is not worth the very real possible consequences".

I may get hate for saying this, but unless you are them, or you are in their shoes in their situations, you don't have a right to belittle them for their choices for THEIR game. One can offer constructive criticism without attacking them.

With all that said, I will always hold out hope, that for this game in particular, there will be patches made by the dev or an alternate game made etc that can be delivered on other platforms etc for audience enjoying the more taboo games.
These days you have to be foolish to even try to make AVNs for a living, as shit often needs changed so much so often it's no longer worth monetarily supporting and no longer reliable enough for that and often takes forever to even break $500 a month assuming it ever does (which no one is going to live on, that's only half the median income even in Brazil, and the only cheaper places to live lack things like power grids like rural India). Best way to do it now is just make what the fuck you want and drop it on your own site either self-hosted or with a host that doesn't care about cartoon content and put your crypto wallet link on that and link that here. These days you probably won't make any less doing that than letting Patreon practically write your watered-down story for you, and as a bonus you get to keep your artistic integrity and maybe even keep any enthusiasm you initially had for it rather than let Patreon kill it. The few devs left I keep up with now barely make $2 an hour if one keeps track of all the hours of dev time every month, mainly due to losing subs after being forced to change shit where they didn't have a huge number of subs to begin with even before the changes and just continue to do it more for fun and to pass the time rather than the pay= might as well just abandon AVN development and get a min wage job or drive for Uber, far more pay for far fewer hours than 10-12h a day if money is the goal.
 
These days you have to be foolish to even try to make AVNs for a living, as shit often needs changed so much so often it's no longer worth monetarily supporting and no longer reliable enough for that and often takes forever to even break $500 a month assuming it ever does (which no one is going to live on, that's only half the median income even in Brazil, and the only cheaper places to live lack things like power grids like rural India). Best way to do it now is just make what the fuck you want and drop it on your own site either self-hosted or with a host that doesn't care about cartoon content and put your crypto wallet link on that and link that here. These days you probably won't make any less doing that than letting Patreon practically write your watered-down story for you, and as a bonus you get to keep your artistic integrity and maybe even keep any enthusiasm you initially had for it rather than let Patreon kill it. The few devs left I keep up with now barely make $2 an hour if one keeps track of all the hours of dev time every month, mainly due to losing subs after being forced to change shit where they didn't have a huge number of subs to begin with even before the changes and just continue to do it more for fun and to pass the time rather than the pay= might as well just abandon AVN development and get a min wage job or drive for Uber, far more pay for far fewer hours than 10-12h a day if money is the goal.
Yep it's time to go back when AVN's were just a hobby not a full time job.

Patron ruined everything it touched.

Then the icing on the cake devs started selling said games on various storefront bringing unwanted attention to the hobby.

Anyway like I said before self fund your own taboo games as they wont be allowed anywhere in the future.
 
ever since patreon exist even mods locking behind paywall now. so fk them...
 
Season? Chapter? Which is the latest? Is Chapter 1 a different Season?
 
Hi!
guys what's the story with Blue Valentine? girl looks known (but i do not quite sure)
is she from that old man money shark who wanted to make MC's BFF camwhore? or is she from poor girls who was kidnapped by that narcodealer-trafficer?
 
Hi!

I just saw a mention of some Cassie, but I can't remember who she is or what her relationship is to the MC, no matter what!

Meanwhile, "Grandma's House" has info about the girls in the MC harem. This game updates frequently—you don't have time to forget who Samantha is, for example.

And here, updates are so infrequent, so rare that you forget the characters. It would be nice to have a reminder in a game like this.

Or maybe there's a wiki for this VN? Please share the address. I'd like to refresh my memory of the girls' names and faces.
 
how to get Viola as lewd maid? did i need lewd her in the clothing shop?
but if she "vi_just_clean=true" - that is i'm a good guy and not lewd ner in shop, can i corrupt and make her my fuck-maid in my apartment?
 
Bro can you make it more obvious

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Even with the changes, I still enjoy this VN. I miss the original Nicki scene, but not fussed about it. Still one of my current favorites.
I agree with everyone above, Patreon is the worst thing to happen to AVNs. I only give to a dev through SS, but its not great either, just better than Patreon.
 
Even with the changes, I still enjoy this VN. I miss the original Nicki scene, but not fussed about it. Still one of my current favorites.
I agree with everyone above, Patreon is the worst thing to happen to AVNs. I only give to a dev through SS, but its not great either, just better than Patreon.
My new policy is give to no one before it's finished, as most end up abandoned anyway no matter what devs say at the start. If the final product still has the lolis and incest I want I'll then and only then send $10-20 to their crypto wallet. Maybe if everyone did that the AVN landscape wouldn't be the mostly-shit it is now.
 
My new policy is give to no one before it's finished, as most end up abandoned anyway no matter what devs say at the start. If the final product still has the lolis and incest I want I'll then and only then send $10-20 to their crypto wallet. Maybe if everyone did that the AVN landscape wouldn't be the mostly-shit it is now.
I don't support many at this point. Only ones that have some sort of consistency, either a completed previous zvn or they've been updated the one they have been working on and updating consistently.
 
I just finished chapter 3 and I'm enjoying it so far. I'll wait until I've gotten deeper into the game before leaving a review. But I imagine that it'll get a positive response from me.
 
I just finished chapter 3 and I'm enjoying it so far. I'll wait until I've gotten deeper into the game before leaving a review. But I imagine that it'll get a positive response from me.
I hope you continue to enjoy. I am biased as this is one of my favs.
 
which one is the latest? chapter one or season 1? does that patch give taboo content? so many options with no explainations
 
what is the a difference between patreon and ss versions?
 
what is the a difference between patreon and ss versions?
Patreon is the shitty bleached version with the laundry list of things they don't like removed. SS is the slightly less shitty and less bleached version.
 
For less confusion, just download the game from his subscribestar, its free and the most up to date
 
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