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10 Months of Service
The goal is to release an update every 2-3 months.
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3 Years of Service
My dude. The game is free to play on here. No one needs to subscribe monthly to play it. If you can't afford to sub then simply don't do it. It's not rocket science
4 Years of Service
I'm in a rather similar situation - my country has been rather badly hit by the fallout of the Hormuz situation. Maybe a one time payment/ donation every few updates could be a resonable compromise. Like your chapter suggestion, only slightly different in that we get to decide the combination of updates that can be considered as being a chapter. 2-3 small updates?
8 Months of Service
I respect your opinion, but it's wrong. Some dev's milk the subscription shit and even paywall the story-content of the game. Dark Games is just panhandling with a donation cup and if you give him some of your change, you get some neat perks. If you decide to ignore the panhandler, then he still gives you the game for free. When it comes to subscriptions or donations for games that you as an individual genuinely enjoy, you should be looking at it like you're saying thank you to the dev for putting their freedom and livelihood on the line to make you a loli game. You, should look at the perks that the dev provides for subscribing or donating as a way to say thank you to us for supporting them. I look at it like he's basically saying, "Hey! Thanks for giving me some of your money that doesn't grow on trees. Here's a walkthrough and replay gallery for supporting me with your hard earned cash. But don't worry if you can't support me financially, you'll still get all the really important stuff for FREE."
Also do you think that these dev's just stop working a day-job on day one? The time that you spend jacking-off to their work is about 10-20x less than the amount of work it takes to make your free fap material. So they work their day-job and then spend their time on things they enjoy. These games start out for most devs as their hobbies and passion projects. But once it's released into the wild, the enjoyment of being creative starts a battle with the stress of pleasing your audience. When the stress starts winning the battle, games get abandoned. So I say, let the devs put out their panhandle. Money doesn't grow on trees for the devs any more than it does for you or me. Anyways, sorry ranting in response to your rant, I just felt like throwing your two cents back atch'ya.
What is there to compromise on? The "terms" right now for you being able to play the game for free are:
Extract and run
Are either of you trying to express that want to support the dev but feel that the current benefits for doing so are lackluster for you? Like, the price to benefit ratio is too high? At this point, I'm legitimately curious. Because otherwise, the entire game is free. If someone that plays the, "subscriber version," chooses the exact same choices in a playthrough of the game as someone that plays the, "free," version, they will both have the exact same experience. The only caveats that I'm aware of would be that the subscriber version would allow you to choose if you want to know the potential outcomes of your choices while playing (i.e. walkthrough), as well as easier access to replays. What am I missing? Anyone?
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8 Months of Service
Goals are great and all, just please don't burn yourself out. I recently learned that creative minds tend to experience their darkest moments in life during the peaks of their creativity, psychologically speaking. Just take care of yourself is what I'm getten'at.
4 Years of Service
Some of us feel that devs of games we like should be compensated even if we get their game for free - yes, we do exist, although there are some who would consider us to be "losers and suckers" (yes, that's a quote). A monthly subsription, however, is not a commitment we would be willing to tie ourselves to. The compromise I was talking about was to go for something in between a regular subscription and nothing at all.
8 Months of Service
Another case of textual confusion. My bad! 
So yeah, I think Ko-Fi (and Patreon and SubStar for other devs) offers the option to make one-time donations but I don't think the benefits for subscribing come with it. So, if all they're wanting to do is make a donation to support then those options work but if they want to get the subscription perks they can always pay the subscription price for the month that the update that they want to play comes out and then cancel it immediately; in essence this would be a one-time charge/donation. You support the dev, get the specific update that you want, and were never locked into a contract requiring you to pay monthly.
This makes complete sense to me, I misinterpreted your original post. I agree 100% with the compensation sentiment - fuck anyone that thinks choosing to support any kind of art/artist makes us a "loser or sucker".
So yeah, I think Ko-Fi (and Patreon and SubStar for other devs) offers the option to make one-time donations but I don't think the benefits for subscribing come with it. So, if all they're wanting to do is make a donation to support then those options work but if they want to get the subscription perks they can always pay the subscription price for the month that the update that they want to play comes out and then cancel it immediately; in essence this would be a one-time charge/donation. You support the dev, get the specific update that you want, and were never locked into a contract requiring you to pay monthly.
3 Years of Service
This is reasonable. It is JUST AS REASONABLE for anyone who has paid an amount that would be the value of the final product to expect access to the product. A VNs final value as a game is predominantly worth between $20 and $40. Very few are higher. Quite a few (mostly abandoned) are lower. This particular one **if it isnt abandoned before completion** will be on the higher end of that range.
So with as long as a game like this takes to finish when a dev is only working on it in hobby time, EVERY POSSIBLE PERK should be included somewhere between the $1/month and $3/month subscription rate. And rates above that are for the people who simply wish to support the dev.
Compensation is fair, only if its fair compensation. It is unfair to call supporters losers or suckers. It is EQUALLY UNFAIR to treat the original commenters opinions on over paying as anything other than 100% valid. If every perk isnt earned at a rate that is fair compensation, then its overpriced.
9 Months of Service
here we go again, ones opinion is exactly that, "of the one" its personal & not open to anything other than voicing that opinion.
telling another person that their opinion is wrong is more or less censorship.
you can add your opinion at most but nothing more, that's why people take the time & effort to start off by saying "in my opinion"
now, back to thinking if I should play this now or wait till its 100% complete
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