discussion At what age did you first do drugs?

[mccutch]

Never have... and don't plan on starting.

 

[MasterBlaster1922]

I really hate drugs. I have a really bad feeling with this shit. I never tried anything, neither tobacco. I don't consider alcool a drug, for many reasons. I lost some friends for drugs. In my Country the narcotrafic it's the first source of income for the organized crime. The spread of drugs is now widespread, thanks to the illegal immigration and consumption among the very young is destroying entire generations. I can't stand all this. I have fought, I fight and I will always fight with all my strength against this plague. I therefore ask you not to boast about certain things. To take a conscious attitude and not encourage the use of illegal and harmful substances. Even unknowingly.

 

[MattShizzle]

Same on never have never will. I WAS on oxycontin after falling down the stairs in 2022 and 2023 (not too long past being in the hospital), but stopped once I didn't need it. Even after getting out after heart bypass only took like Tylenol. Not too many people start after turning 50, so I'm good. I worked some time in a treatment facility so I saw what that shit can do.

 

[Loliholic]

I don't consider alcool a drug, for many reasons.

You mean wrong reasons. With the exception of tobacco alc has the most addicts and causes the most deaths of ALL drugs, legal and illegal.
But i understand, you couldnt swing your "no drugs" sign that much if you would include the truth.
And hey, if people were free to decide for themselves and the govs wouldnt support crimes by keeping drugs illegal by law, there wouldnt be any organized crime focused on drugs and the death rate would shrink down to those who overdose or believe they can fly + being a legal industry would produce jobs and the taxes would benefit everyone. But thats just the using brain logic, it never works for govs, laws and common people.

 

[MattShizzle]

You mean wrong reasons. With the exception of tobacco alc has the most addicts and causes the most deaths of ALL drugs, legal and illegal.
But i understand, you couldnt swing your "no drugs" sign that much if you would include the truth.
And hey, if people were free to decide for themselves and the govs wouldnt support crimes by keeping drugs illegal by law, there wouldnt be any organized crime focused on drugs and the death rate would shrink down to those who overdose or believe they can fly + being a legal industry would produce jobs and the taxes would benefit everyone. But thats just the using brain logic, it never works for govs, laws and common people.

Only because alcohol is legal and socially acceptable. It's certainly less dangerous than nearly all illegal ones (as in the ones not marijuana.)

 

[Loliholic]

Nope, except for the very few high addictive drugs you could take them all from time to time, they are only dangerous on high dosage (something you would learn if they were legally sold) or regular consumtion (something all drugs have in common, even the legal ones - thats also why weed isnt and was never a drug: no physical addiction).
Addiction aside, most drugs damage primary the parts of the body used to consume them, smoked stuff primary the airways, eaten stuff primary the digestive system, sniffed stuff damages primary the mucosa, etc.
Going from the initial damage it becomes worse. But alc damages the whole body incl. nerves and cells and is worse then most illegal drugs.

 

[zephnm]

I was 14, at a party. and it was weed

 

[MattShizzle]

Nope, except for the very few high addictive drugs you could take them all from time to time, they are only dangerous on high dosage (something you would learn if they were legally sold) or regular consumtion (something all drugs have in common, even the legal ones - thats also why weed isnt and was never a drug: no physical addiction).
Addiction aside, most drugs damage primary the parts of the body used to consume them, smoked stuff primary the airways, eaten stuff primary the digestive system, sniffed stuff damages primary the mucosa, etc.
Going from the initial damage it becomes worse. But alc damages the whole body incl. nerves and cells and is worse then most illegal drugs.

It's still a drug. Anything that has an effect is. Tylenol isn't addictive but is still a drug. Though for some reason, the DSM does include the category "marijuana addiction." Psychological addiction maybe, like gambling. no alcohol isn't worse than "most illegal drugs." If you ever were around addicts to illegal drugs vs alcoholics you would know that. At least when sober the alcoholics normally know what planet they're on. And have you ever seen a long term meth user or such?

 

[Loliholic]

Going by this definition chocolate and games are also drugs.
I only use the term drug for physical addicting substances.
Erm, i grew up with a drugwreck of an uncle in a backwater village filled with idiots, fanatics and common alcoholism + big sis and me run a women shelter and have always some addicts in the house. So yes, i have seen more addicts then most people, maybe except for dealers, dea agents and full time rehab workers.
You can check the death rate statistics yourself, alc has the pole position of all drugs and that only counts the drinkers, considering the fact how many accidents and lost control deaths it causes you can increase the number by at least a third.

 

[Nastastic]

Used to sneak shots of an elderly ancestor's rotgut whiskey as a teen. Didn't get drunk though until age 20 when visiting Europe for the first (and only, since I'm too poor to travel now) time in college.

Smoked some cigarettes around the same age, just when I drank. Stopped the first time I felt the addiction clawing around the edges of my brain. Have very occasionally smoked when drinking, many years later.

Smoked weed for the first time in my late 30s. Why not? It's not like my life was going super fantastic and I was going to fuck up any sort of super awesome situation by doing it. Have smoked it a few times since then.

Tried shrooms around 40. A previous poster claimed ADHD makes you resistant to it, well it didn't for me or maybe I took a crapton but it was interesting watching the walls breathe and feeling my sense of time dilate. Until I got to the part where you basically are supposed to like, get in touch with your inner self or the universe or whatever, and it told me I might as well commit suicide because at this point there was nowhere to go really but down. Fortunately I have always been low-key suicidal so I was able to resist. Haven't done shrooms again, though.

Never done any other drug, and have no desire to.

 

[NumNeg]

Never, so far. I had and have no faith in my own willpower, so as a teen, I've decided I'll never try any drug, alcohol and cigarette, because if I'd like them, I'd become an addict for sure.

Sometimes people offer me alcohol (mostly as a - for me, quite boring - joke). Almost no one smoke around me, and I don't like the smell, so it is easy. Drugs... I only had I not too close friend who smoked weed, and one time he offered me a joint. And it was cca. 15 years ago. So I'm not even tempted for drugs.

 

[MattShizzle]

You can check the death rate statistics yourself, alc has the pole position of all drugs and that only counts the drinkers, considering the fact how many accidents and lost control deaths it causes you can increase the number by at least a third.

Only because it's legal. Most people drink at least some. There's no such thing as moderate heroin or meth use. You also don't get fired from a job for having drank in the last week. Now if you show UP drunk...
I mean, for other drugs you could count accidents involving them, murders during robberies, etc. If they were legal and as easy to obtain, the numbers for them would go way up Even more if use was also socially acceptable.

 

[azbest2k]

25

 

[Loliholic]

Only because it's legal. Most people drink at least some. There's no such thing as moderate heroin or meth use. You also don't get fired from a job for having drank in the last week. Now if you show UP drunk...
I mean, for other drugs you could count accidents involving them, murders during robberies, etc. If they were legal and as easy to obtain, the numbers for them would go way up Even more if use was also socially acceptable.

All the illegal stuff get still consumed. In fact, some are mostly consumed because they are illegal. Dealers make their money because they manipulate, push and convince their stock to new consuments, especially to young/naive people who dont know the difference between gov-propaganda, dealer-propaganda and reality.
I know, thats why i said "except for the high addictive drugs"
Well, i dont know many jobs doing drug tests, my work history is limited to money collecting with multiple rarely inspected jobs at the same time and then managing our shelter.
There is your logic bug. Most drugs are pretty cheap, some even grow wild. What makes them expensive is not the production itself, its hiding the production, transport and spread them without getting detected, bribing people and on the large/organized scale the druglords must also pay their guards, weapons, luxury, etc. and since some cops really do their work they also need to cover and replace lost staff/money/drugs.
Lets take a common example, weed. 1g goes for 10€, one plant produces 20-30g per harvest, lets take the middle and one harvest of a single plant brings 250€ - street price. But when its legal to own the plants you dont pay the street price. And just like every legalized common product it goes into mass production and will etablish new prices, heavy taxed like tobacco, but still cheaper then the street prices, otherwise they would still support the druglords.
It would be the same for every single drug and without dealers pushing them to the people, without negative propaganda from govs and positive propaganda from dealers it would be up to science/docs/shrinks to spread the truth. In the end it should be up to the people if/what they consume and govs should only care about spreading the knowledge so people can make educated decisions for themselves. Everything else is just dictation and supports those who offer it despite the laws.

 

[User_120869]

Does Ritalin count? If so, 19, when i was diagnosed with ADHD by my first boss.

 

[suoixds]

At the age of 5 I found out I had a terminal disease. I wanted to leave my family taken care of, so I got a PhD in chemistry and began making my own designer drugs to sell for recreational purposes. I wasn't going to pit out trash product so of course at the age of 7 I started testing all my creations on myself first. I was very mature and technically advanced for my age. I made billions in the underground club scene by the age of 9. My many experimentations with specialty drugs (estimated around 573 completed products) accidentally cured me.

 

[48e1-920b-9a4ff0ce20]

It's certainly less dangerous than nearly all illegal ones (as in the ones not marijuana.)

There's a good number of people in the world that can't stop drinking alcohol simply because stopping cold turkey will kill them.

It's common and socially acceptable, sure. But it's far from lacking adverse effects on its partakers.

 

[BeanieBaby]

First drug was wine, I reckon around the age of 5, noticed the buzzy feeling and liked it Funny thing back then the chocolate drink known as Yoo-Hoo was caffeine laden and my parents wouldn't let me try that. Illegal drugs didn't come into my life until I was 13. Was just weed of the Mexican variety $20 an ounce back then. After that did try heroin once, didn't like it. Same with cocaine... felt it was for dumb people who wanted to feel smart. hah LSD and other hallucinogenics came and went in my teen years as well...walked into a 7-11 one night and watched a guy's veins do a dance across his arm and well that was enough for me. I've tried pretty much every mind/mood altering drug known to the civilized world and none the worse for wear...lucky I guess.

 

[WLMS]

First drug was wine as well, was something like 6 or 7.
Then I started smoking first cigarettes at 15, then pot at 16.
Also started doing a shitload of different drugs at 19 and that was the beginning of an hell of ride lmao.

I'm now 31, drink very occasionally, only vape, and the last time I smoked weed was 10 years ago.

But I've got a bit of an amphetamines (speed, not meth) addiction, but I manage.

 

[MattShizzle]

There's a good number of people in the world that can't stop drinking alcohol simply because stopping cold turkey will kill them.

It's common and socially acceptable, sure. But it's far from lacking adverse effects on its partakers.

Plenty of people who can't stop doing several of the illegal ones for the same reason. You also don't hear about people breaking into houses or robbing people for money for booze...