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Anyone else feel like AI art ruined porn?

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AI in general, not just porn, is turning me into this.

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Ai is helpful but these day overused. It should be tools for helping us not trying to take everything from us.
 
With AI art being in full swing and flooding every image sharing site, it feels like so much of the soul is lost in a sea of art that everyone can instantly read as AI art? That the soul and talent is just missing from the AI art and I just dismiss it outright. Very rarely have I seen AI art and ever felt any arousal from it.
it has hardly gotten started !
wait another year, meanwhile your life is being overtaken by AI in every aspect, it controls the markets, it advises your governments it even has been placed in front of everything you do online, yes "everything" (its reading your emails as you type them)

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I'm not sure I would say ruined. It has definitely increased the slop you have to look through though. Especially on sites like exhentai. There is some genuinely good AI art out there though. I really like ShiroV8's stuff.
 
AI porn art right now is really generic but give them few years - it will way better. There is so much hot stories that could be expressed in form of art but authors of thouse stories don't have enogh skills. But with good AI tools all will be possible. ;)
 
I think it just gave more options for it, it doesn't retract anything from normal or otherwise the other kind of porn everyone enjoys, but now there's more ways to make ot
Personally i can't wait for AI videos to become better
 
Belive AI is currently in a very early experimental period. A lot of AI is indeed poorly implemented. But done right, it can be awesome. Like Family Business.

Don't like when devs try to hide that they are using it.
 
I feel Ai will actually take porn to new heights, for videos as well as games. Just wait a few years, but the thought itself is good but very scary
 
making crappy AI makes for crappy games, the visuals and the story are key.
they need to match up, for me you can't put a face like this in a porn game


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Maybe? As long as human art exisits I don't really mind, or if AI was used in the backend. I personally do not find AI art all that appealing tho
 
The only use that think has a positive use case is free cities pregmod, since it gives a serviceable picture to characters where it's unfeasible to draw one for every type of feature.
Otherwise to me personally a game with AI art can only be good despite that, never because of it. Doesn't help that it's usually accompanied by tool assisted writing as well, and bad writing isn't exactly the best for a game, even worse if it's a VN.

You know, I'm actually curious if anyone can recommend me a game where they would say AI actually made something comparable to competent human writing, or where the main strength of AI art; the ability to create very specific character art fast; is utilized well.
 
The only use that think has a positive use case is free cities pregmod, since it gives a serviceable picture to characters where it's unfeasible to draw one for every type of feature.

I hope that kind of stuff gets easier to set up with time. I know someone made a similar mod for Strive: Conquest, but I still haven't gotten around to start fiddling with ComfyUI...
 
I hope that kind of stuff gets easier to set up with time. I know someone made a similar mod for Strive: Conquest, but I still haven't gotten around to start fiddling with ComfyUI...
That would be nice indeed, though I assume it's probably going to be too niche to get mass appeal. Especially since it only is useful games with a lot of characters
 
I have mixed feelings about the "AI" rush, and I think the tech bubble will either burst spectactularly in a few years or, like NFTs and VR, quietly fade into the background of the next big Silicon Valley grift.

On the one hand, AI is definitely a boon for certain kinds of games where real-life content would be questionable (like Free Cities, as others have already pointed out), or for franchises like Touhou where the existing art styles are easily mimicked.

On the other hand, I think even the most ardent AI proponents should accept that there's a lot of bad, shallow, cringey AI images out there. The visuals are not technically flawed, but look like they've been generated with the default settings. It's like a tidalwave of blandness that washes out even the most extreme content.

While the visuals are a mixed bag, where the current models absolutely fail is written content. The rise of AI seems to be strongly correlated with a decrease in the quality of human writing. Having graded hundreds of college papers both before and after the "AI" boom, I can confidently state that (at least in my personal experience) student writing is noticeably worse: more sophmoric, less curious. It's also bad in a different way than before. Bad papers in the old days had bad composition, flawed logic, poor grammar, that sort of thing. Now, the problem is vapidity. So many papers read like advertising copy. You can tell the prompt was either fed directly to an AI model, or written by someone exposed to an excess of AI-assisted writing. It's profoundly boring to read, and is beginning to seep into higher academia. There are fewer diamonds in the rough, and a lot more slop.

Reading comprehension has also declined massively among college students (and the lay administrators who increasingly meddle with the curriuculum). Whether the loss of reading comprehension is due to AI, social media, misguided educational reforms, television/streaming, or some combination of factors is less clear to me.

Then there is hysteria over AI growth. As with many politicized issues, a lot of the dialogue surrounding AI just seems really, really stupid to me, especially the worries about a rogue AI. In my view, true artificial intelligence does not yet exist in a meaningful sense. The current machine-learning models are very effective at mimicry and certain types of repeative algorithmic processing where there are obvious fail-states (unfolding proteins, quick-and-dirty translation, image construction from prompts, code-monkey-esque basic programming, locomotion), but the path from current models to artificial general intelligence (AGI) does not seem very promising. The recent agent-driven hacks are really not very impressive from a CS perspective. Machines that use rudimentary social engineering techniques have been around since Eliza.

Perhaps the biggest problem with AI is the data centers. The effects of AI data centers are visible, immediate, and objectively negative for the public. My town is under water-usage restrictions right now after a data center was built upriver. Other places in my state have purportedly seen their power-bills spike, or land seized by imminent domain so that data centers can be built.

I have yet to see anything produced by AI that would justify that cost. Easy porn generation and sycophantic digital assistants aren't worth it, methinks.

That brings me to the problem of overhyped potential. The dot.com bubble of 2000 and the video game crash of 1983 are good examples. In both cases, delusional financiers pushed a technology that wasn't ready, and crashed the market.

(In fairness, a counterexample would be GPS. Early global positioning systems were an unreliable joke. Now, they've gotten much, much better and have become so commonplace that road maps are hard to find at gas stations. When they get self-driving cars that can actually navigate reliably, then I'll accept the "AI" rush isn't just a bubble. Until then, I'll remain skeptical.)

I would also point out that technology doesn't always catch on or improve for a very, very long time. A good example would be machine-driven mills. Primitive watermills and even proto-type windmills were present already in classical antiquity, but did not really take off until the Middle Ages. Even then, textile mills were very, very slow to develop, and true factories came about only in the early modern period with the industrial revolution. Better, more standardized parts and better mathematical understanding were prerequisites for true industrialization.

I think our current "AI" is like a Roman watermill. Sure, AI has improved noticeably from earlier models and can produce results, but it still has a long way to go. And just as there isn't a clear and direct path from Roman watermills to modern assembly lines, there isn't a clear and obvious path from our primitive "AI" to AGI. Despite how badly the megacorporations and tech bros want it, there is no compelling reason to expect miraculous growth.

TLDR: it's a complicated issue, but I'd wager that the current AI bubble will either burst spectacularly in a few years, or quietly stagnate after some other new technology becomes the next big thing in Silicon Valley.
 
There's also an on-the-fly generation mod for (the modded version of) Lab Rats 2.

Unfortunately with the hardware crunch of the last half-decade (wtf this is getting absurd), I'm not sure the number of people with a home system that can generate quality images on the fly in a reasonable time frame is all that high. 4080's and up are a small minority

More on topic, I think *good* ai generated content isn't ruining anything, just there's been a flood of mediocre-to-bad output and that is what's seen the most.
 
I think that AI generally not a bad thing, but a lot of content made with AI is about quantity over quality , for example, a lot of "AI-artists" (i don't know how to say it correctly) is using 1-2 scenes with different characters and actively trying to convince you into buying their patreon or whatever. I've already seen good videos made with AI and blender but this requires knowledge, which not a lot of peaple wanna learn
 
I think that AI is the future, no matter how you twist it, it is still developing and already looks good, which will be in 2-3 years)