1/3
4 Years of Service
You must be registered to see attachments
Attachments
You must be registered for see attachments list
You must be registered to see attachments
Geez chatrooms, I remember being in a chatroom using mIRC...Is that java script? oh fuck the coffee mug of the early 2k is here
I loved those old java chatroom's beep ting boot man black text white backgorund a secondary popup window xp only needing 20mb of ram you are making me feel fucking old and longing to find a fucking time machine.
Damn, I haven't been on ATF in years but hearing about it closing down it's pretty sad especially since it seems like it all happened because of some power hungry weirdo. Since Vis said that he will close it down in the next few months, maybe he will have time to reconsider and find a way to keep it alive. It would be a shame to see that place go down like that.
Yeah... I thought the same. What baffles me is the cost of running ATF, though. It's one thing to say "I wanna run the joint". It;s another to shoulder 20K/year in costs while running the place. Did the guy who wanted to take over realize this? ATF is a huge site. I highly doubt he could handle it proper.seems like it all happened because of some power hungry weirdo
maybe he will have time to reconsider and find a way to keep it alive.
Couldn't they solve that by just migrating the content to a new site? People would have to create new accounts but since the site isn't closing down immediately they would have time to warn the users and let them move to the new site.Yeah... I thought the same. What baffles me is the cost of running ATF, though. It's one thing to say "I wanna run the joint". It;s another to shoulder 20K/year in costs while running the place. Did the guy who wanted to take over realize this? ATF is a huge site. I highly doubt he could handle it proper.
I doubt ATF will live on because a copy of the site may or may not exist. Too risky to continue with a knife like that on your neck. You can't trust a dude making threats then make a 180 saying "yeah I deleted the copy I made, promise"
Yeah... I thought the same. What baffles me is the cost of running ATF, though. It's one thing to say "I wanna run the joint". It;s another to shoulder 20K/year in costs while running the place. Did the guy who wanted to take over realize this? ATF is a huge site. I highly doubt he could handle it proper.
I doubt ATF will live on because a copy of the site may or may not exist. Too risky to continue with a knife like that on your neck. You can't trust a dude making threats then make a 180 saying "yeah I deleted the copy I made, promise"
Rest in peace ATF and God really does hate Australians
(JohnMolotov is apparently Australian which is likely why they're expecting the M.A.D gambit to actually work)
the problem there is that the database itself is a threat all on it's own and as long as there's a site to blackmail with it, he's probably going to keep trying, or worse, actually search through the database for any PII anyone was foolish enough to risk on DM's or a staff forum or something, and start using that instead of using the whole thing as a blunt instrument.Couldn't they solve that by just migrating the content to a new site? People would have to create new accounts but since the site isn't closing down immediately they would have time to warn the users and let them move to the new site.
that would require a lot of time, effort, and money. and would give about the same result as what is happening with the users moving to other sites like thisCouldn't they solve that by just migrating the content to a new site? People would have to create new accounts but since the site isn't closing down immediately they would have time to warn the users and let them move to the new site.
it would probably just kick the problem forward, it wouldn't solve it. Also from what i understand Vis is fed up with it, so he for sure wouldn’t be all that jazzed about a new site.Couldn't they solve that by just migrating the content to a new site? People would have to create new accounts but since the site isn't closing down immediately they would have time to warn the users and let them move to the new site.
They could but now it would be even more matters of trust. Teaching the successor. Giving deep secrets on how the site works. Entrusting the successor with this knowledge and treating all users with respect (protecting personal information / privacy). Funding. A ton is involved and clearly Vis wants off the treadmill. I don't think passing the baton is simple here. You need to find someone who embodies all this and more.Couldn't they solve that by just migrating the content to a new site?
Thisthe problem there is that the database itself is a threat all on it's own and as long as there's a site to blackmail with it, he's probably going to keep trying, or worse, actually search through the database for any PII anyone was foolish enough to risk on DM's or a staff forum or something, and start using that instead of using the whole thing as a blunt instrument.
it would probably just kick the problem forward, it wouldn't solve it. Also from what i understand Vis is fed up with it, so he for sure wouldn’t be all that jazzed about a new site.
Turbo sad.
That said, would it be possible for someone in the uploaders team to mirror the game mods here?
They could but now it would be even more matters of trust. Teaching the successor. Giving deep secrets on how the site works. Entrusting the successor with this knowledge and treating all users with respect (protecting personal information / privacy). Funding. A ton is involved and clearly Vis wants off the treadmill. I don't think passing the baton is simple here. You need to find someone who embodies all this and more.
You must be registered to see attachments
As far as I understand John who fucked Vistarr over had almost the same role as Apollo has herethats quite the pickle, this is why only a very few (like me and apollo) have access to the database, dont trust anyone.
This site provides links to other sites/services, and does not store any files