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Haha. Can't let fan bases determine your own critiques! But I think it's totally fine to not think these games are as revolutionary as people say.
To add to your list, Zelda: Breath of the Wild. Another game that came out and "revolutionised" everything and is shielded from critique online. I enjoyed it, but it wasn't the Zelda I love. It was a good game, but a bad Zelda game - in my eyes.
You've both just reminded me about something actually!
My friend who basically only plays FromSoft games... Actually he's a terrible gamer. Barely ever played games and he's shit at most of them. But he loves DS. It seems like such an unlikely pairing, he fell in love with the atmosphere more than anything. If the games are "impossible" it would be impossible for him, who is almost a casual gamer, but they're not. It's learn attack patterns, etc. Like you and @Vkun say
However, I'd disagree about one thing - I think its fair to still call them hard. And I don't think that, just because other games out there might be harder, it means DS are easy or "common sense". They're actually really punishing games, and to say they're not is a disservice. But what they're not, is impossible. And what they're not, is unfair. I think that's the difference. I think FromSoft do a LOT of internal work to ensure their games straddle that line really nicely, where their games are hard, but fair.
Oh, and all this Nier: Automata talk is making me want to play through it all over again... All 1 million times.
I got a friend like that to IRL but they keep trying to convince that there is no harder game than Souls, then they gets salty when I joke about any one who fast can curb stomp the portags of of any Souls game out of existence, weather its from eastern devs or Western dev