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[Coffee]

Good morning lurkers.

 

[everyone deserves nothing i am out]

Good morning lurkers.

good night

 

[USER_6969]

But if the upper 1% are not abusing their wealth -- why even be concerned about them? I don't see a downside at all and the only impact being encouraging the peasants to new heights

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Talking about peasants, how are you doing?

Call this wild but, Maybe they should just stop trying to fix what isnt broken.

Well they would probably have to call in another expert for that...

first time?
they keep arguing with me just for the sake of arguing, like I can just change anything when I feel like doing
at the end, they just want an enemy to blame for anything and everything.

Well I thought I was making valid points?

 

[Bleed1Exile😈]

that is if i can even put 1 in, chances are not likely.

so now @CrypticWonders you have know idea what the ideas are behind the scene and you probably never will, if Heisenberg wanted to he could just make the entire site closed off with a 5$ monthly fee to stay in, be glad this is not an idea that he is going with, as for "chances of getting donations" again this is further from the truth, the real reason stuff changed is because he is starting from ranks pricing to coins gained to equal everything out, because the old pricing list made 0 sense.

Uh, huh. So you're thinking everything = $$$$

 

[everyone deserves nothing i am out]

Uh, huh. So you're thinking everything = $$$$

when did i say that, nothing = $$$$ the only thing that = cash are the idiot devs who think they can charge way over the price of something to get it fixed & they didn't even know what the fuck they were talking about in the first place, case and point is the images i fixed on the latest updates page, he said it was because of js issue but it was about perm view issue in the config file of the addon.

 

[Bleed1Exile😈]

when did i say that, nothing = $$$$ the only thing that = cash are the idiot devs who think they can charge way over the price of something to get it fixed & they didn't even know what the fuck they were talking about in the first place, case and point is the images i fixed on the latest updates page, he said it was because of js issue but it was about perm view issue in the config file of the addon.

fuck wrong reply

 

[User_61141]

This site can literally not make up it's fucking mind, Heisenberg literally said yesterday nothing is changing and now today someone else goes "Lol jk, it's changing"

we announced changes weeks ago, we are gathering feedback since. You probably know that, you just don't like

I can't believe how absolutely butthurt staff is about some members having millions/billions of coins

keep in mind that most staff members have millions or billions of coins earned by activity alone. The only difference is that we have the responsibility to care for the site

I mean at this point it is beyond obvious that they are trying to make changes simply for the potential to increase the chances of getting donations for Coins.

The people trying to make fair changes and suggesting them don't even know how much the site gets in donations, they never see that money. It could not be far from the truth. Sadly, I don't think you would believe in any other reason

They know that the people with that many coins will never ever have to consider buying DC or PC since anything that is ever added to the store they will always instantly afford and that bothers them to no end,

so you're saying that people with insanely high passive income bypass the entire system without using the site and can make other users bypass too?
than I ask you, how much do you really care about the site? or you still think that the barrier is because of money, not because we had to jump from host to host because of reports exactly because a random group could see everything?

At least have the stones to say the real reason for wanting to nerf the shit outta coins instead of a bs inflation excuse, and you know this announcement was a mass DM so there wouldn't be another thread full of replies calling them out on this shit

we keep repeating and repeating, but you say we're lying, and it's because of money. When we have no idea how this would increase donations. People that use activity coins don't donate and never will, changing how hard or how easy it's to get ranks with activity wouldn't force them to donate. We added buff on coins based on areas to let people get more on activity instead of passive income, we had suggestions of changing to ranks instead of areas, so far this is actually the only real feedback we had besides "please give more free coins".

I know you guys don't have any responsibility to care for the website, but we kinda have, even if we don't get anything in return besides direct attacks for no reason

 

[Private_User69]

Good morning lurkers.

Morning Coffee, did you bring coffee for everyone?

I'm back from kicking people in the nuts how things ben here

Hopefully your foot is ok after doing that

 

[User_61141]

Well I thought I was making valid points?

which I mostly agree, but you're not the only one to bring the same topic over and over again.
If people could at least give solid suggestions instead of just "don't change what is good for me, even if costs the website"

why so far not even a single comment said "give more coins on custom reactions, so it's basically a vetted reaction and not spam" ?
because they don't want to use the site, they just want no barriers at all

 

[MattShizzle]

It would be nice if things didn't change so often.

 

[Olive]

which I mostly agree, but you're not the only one to bring the same topic over and over again.
If people could at least give solid suggestions instead of just "don't change what is good for me, even if costs the website"

why so far not even a single comment said "give more coins on custom reactions, so it's basically a vetted reaction and not spam" ?
because they don't want to use the site, they just want no barriers at all

I’ve tried to keep my few comments on it constructive, but I get how having so many people piling on can be too much. I’m not against changes, I think the sudden and reactive back and forth gives the impression to most people that the changes are a bit arbitrary.

Giving some notice of coming changes and reasons with opportunity for constructive feedback (with mods enforcing a thread to keep them constructive) might work better for buy-in on rolling out the more major changes.

 

[KaySwitchPrime]

Still no MS Paint category for my glorious works of art.

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I get it.. I have enough coins. Wouldn't be fair to keep giving me all of them, since nobody could top what I'm putting out here.

Ha, he said putting out

Yes just like lootboxes it is useless to rich folk but everyone like the tiny seratonin kick when numbers go up.

I do seek those dopamine hits more than the average person

Dangerous indeed, oh gosh, I'm actually crying lmaoo.

Oh nahhh, hit y'all young bulls with that fireeee!! I don't think y'all beating Timmy tuner with the mullet over here ahah

TBH, I fucking hate mullets, especially on the lady folk...but damn he's got the moves though

I blame mime

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Good moves Lord Guz! ...I bow out from this competition

I'm back from kicking people in the nuts how things ben here

What is the average kick power of an emu?

#donkeykick

 

[User_61141]

I’ve tried to keep my few comments on it constructive, but I get how having so many people piling on can be too much.

well thank you, that's exactly my point. We try to be open to feedback, but some people are completely aggressive for no reason. So even having 5 to 10 people being cool and actually trying to help, having 2 or 3 screaming random insults because they want to feel better still affect us

I’m not against changes, I think the sudden and reactive back and forth gives the impression to most people that the changes are a bit arbitrary.

and that's something the entire staff agrees, we don't like to change things, and we don't like to do without announcements. And it's not like we have weekly meetings and agree to change shit, some things are out of our control and some things are even out of the owner's control

Giving some notice of coming changes and reasons with opportunity for constructive feedback (with mods enforcing a thread to keep them constructive) might work better for buy-in on rolling out the more major changes.

the "mods enforcing a thread to keep them constructive" would lead to people complaining we are deleting comments like "don't change" or "you only do for the money", which unfortunately don't help a bit and in most cases don't even make sense besides trying to start chaos.

I wanted to open a thread and let people speak how they want to have the system, but they would end up saying to remove any barriers even from P5, because it would benefit the majority of the users, even if it costs the website.

Yes just like lootboxes it is useless to rich folk but everyone like the tiny seratonin kick when numbers go up.

now that's a good idea. Badges on lootboxes
no real value besides showing off and would let people spend their coins and wanting to make more

 

[Private_User69]

which I mostly agree, but you're not the only one to bring the same topic over and over again.
If people could at least give solid suggestions instead of just "don't change what is good for me, even if costs the website"

why so far not even a single comment said "give more coins on custom reactions, so it's basically a vetted reaction and not spam" ?
because they don't want to use the site, they just want no barriers at all

The only bad part about giving suggestions is it's either too much work or can't be done due to X plugin not supporting it or you guys just don't have a PHP developer to make a custom plugin for the site. (not saying anything bad about the staff, it's just something I've seen happen a lot. you guys are trying your best with the stuff you have already)

 

[User_61141]

The only bad part about giving suggestions is it's either too much work or can't be done due to X plugin not supporting it or you guys just don't have a PHP developer to make a custom plugin for the site. (not saying anything bad about the staff, it's just something I've seen happen a lot. you guys are trying your best with the stuff you have already)

I mean, yeah, the interest based on how much you have would be so cool. But customizing this addon is dangerous, I was strongly against because I fear corrupting a database table and making people lose their coins. The last thing I want is to remove things people paid for. But of course we could just add random code and pray for the best like some people suggest, I just won't be part of this

 

[Private_User69]

I mean, yeah, the interest based on how much you have would be so cool. But customizing this addon is dangerous, I was strongly against because I fear corrupting a database table and making people lose their coins. The last thing I want is to remove things people paid for. But of course we could just add random code and pray for the best like some people suggest, I just won't be part of this

Why wouldn't you just take the current DB and site for a local version and test all of the changes.. that way you'd find bugs or issues before it reaches prod... then there would be no worry about that.

 

[Olive]

now that's a good idea. Badges on lootboxes
no real value besides showing off and would let people spend their coins and wanting to make more

A really good idea imo. If it’s possible to set it so each user can pick up to five badges to show on their posts from everything they got from the boxes/ranks, could be a potentially unlimited amount to have in loot boxes to eat up extra coins. I’d want to collect them all lol

the "mods enforcing a thread to keep them constructive" would lead to people complaining we are deleting comments like "don't change" or "you only do for the money", which unfortunately don't help a bit and in most cases don't even make sense besides trying to start chaos.

Let people shit on it all they want here, and enforce the official feedback thread. People wanting to complain with no real solutions offered get their space to do so

 

[USER_6969]

What is this.. a dance off?

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I will join in once I have warmed up...

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Okay. But I must warn you.. my moves are dangerous!



All the judges are in my back pocket.

I just called for a recount...

I'm flattered that you think my dance moves are competitive.

Oh goody.. you're here.

*clears throat*



No, wait.. not that. *rifles through the gifs* Lemme see..



No.. not it.. hahaha.. here we go! *clears throat again*

I cannot bend down that far...

 

[User_61141]

Why wouldn't you just take the current DB and site for a local version and test all of the changes.. that way you'd find bugs or issues before it reaches prod... then there would be no worry about that.

usually is exactly what I do, I don't deploy changes to production without testing the best I can. But this one would be a lot of work, but not that much, but as you may know we are volunteers here, and I have my IRL work to do, I tried my best to put the site in the right course this week as I had some free time. But I won't have that much free time so soon, and if I have I'll probably need to test and fix the LU page and the other themes. Some people send us messages asking "but you have a lot of people in the staff, no one has time?" and the answer is no, we are all really busy with IRL or with other areas of the site. I mean, the site works, I fixed most bugs people reported, the new things were fixed by drakkon, the games are being updated, the loli games are back and maintained, mime is working hard on contests.
Honestly, things are working fine, and I like this. The bank system will be decided by the owner or someone he trusts, the entire staff agreed on something, but people don't want to accept and he didn't like the feedback, so now it's on his hands. The rest should be fine

A really good idea imo. If it’s possible to set it so each user can pick up to five badges to show on their posts from everything they got from the boxes/ranks, could be a potentially unlimited amount to have in loot boxes to eat up extra coins. I’d want to collect them all lol

maybe if we could limit or make them keep swapping so we could have a lot. But I'd have to test this in all themes...
But this would be really cool, maybe for later

 

[GarbageMan89]

Good morning everyone. I just read through the mass email detailing potential changes.

Is everyone running around like the sky is falling?

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