discussion Ok, but why incest?

[majorglory]

There is a close, intimate connection between family members. Someone who knows you better than anyone, someone who’s shared their life with you.

Physical connection is simply a deeper form of that natural affection and love.


But you dont have to listen to me, im a pervert

 

[Gerx_10]

 

[Peter]

- thats not how it works... More so in nature "incest" is way more widespread and basically uncontrolled, animals genuinely dont care with whom they breed as natural selection is based entirely on outside factors. More so, if we talk about selection "incest" aka breeding is the best way to keep desirable inheritable traits. Its kinda funny when people call cats with permanent alopecia cute, but freak out because of incest joke. People have strong feelings against incest for most simple and obvious reason - they are ignorant morons who have no idea what they talking about. You can easily conflate homosexuality and incest, yet most of the people nowadays will defend gayness but will be strongly against incest, even thou it makes zero sense if one supports first simply due to reason of not dictating to people of whom they should love.

And by the way, you cant cause "genetic abnormalities", your DNA need to have those first, "incest" just increases chances of inheriting already existing traits, both positive and negative.


- most of those games have disclaimer "they 18-21 akshualy". So thats not it either.

That is not entirely right.
Most animals avoid mating with their own flesh and blood, which is called instinct and is part of natural Species preservation.
Elephants offend male descendants from the group to prevent incest because they primarily consists of female family members.
Wolves banish female offspring from the pack as soon as they become sexually mature to avoid inbreeding.
These are just 2 examples, but to complete the list would probably claim years and go beyond the framework of this page.
However, there are also a few exceptions from the rule.
The bonobos (a primate type) would be mentioned, they do it with everything and everyone who is not fast enough on the tree and of course humans (also a primate type).
However, the latter, however, combined with mothers and siblings to secure the family's balance of power (like the pharaohs in Egypt or Nero in the ancient Roman Empire) or to satisfy sexual tendencies.
So you should get better information before making any statements.
And I didn't even understand the comparison between homosexuality and incest, so you were right, it makes no sense.

 

[thefreebrzion]

In my opinion the craziest story gives better emotions, incest are one, but yeah the creators only want the money thats why exist platforms like subscristar or patreon

 

[i_patchy]

That is not entirely right.

- nope, this is entirely right.

Most animals avoid mating with their own flesh and blood, which is called instinct and is part of natural Species preservation.

- thats absolutely incorrect. Inbreeding is very common in nature, including among pack mammals, who may prefer to mate within their own "family". And when they dont, they may seek out partner that would resemble their closest "family member" physically. This is principle of familiarity. Yeah, and mating "instinct" will trample over any other considerations anyway.

Also, you see, instincts arent really a thing, at least not in the way people generally believe, unless it is something really basic. Even insects have to "learn" some of their abilities by observation, while most people would attribute whole insect behavior as be entirely "instinct driven".

Elephants violate male descendants from the group to prevent incest because they primarily consists of female family members.

- elephant males are highly aggressive, especially during mating season. Claiming that elephants became matrilinear strictly in order to prevent incest is wild. Concept of "siblings" simply dont exists among animals. Some species may try to avoid mating with "relative", but than again... they dont care, especially when there are no other choices.

Wolves banish female offspring from the pack as soon as they become sexually mature to avoid inbreeding.

- wolf pairs form inside pack and than spread out, creating new packs. Wolf packs operate strictly on familiar basis and mostly form "alliances" with related packs. Female wolves leave their packs significantly more rare, unlike males, who do it only when pack grows too big and has too many males already. And they do it in order to decrease aggressiveness and squabbles inside pack, not because "incest bad". Although direct "sibling" mates in wolf packs are rarer than "cousin" mates, they are far from being unique. More so, if a pack will loose one of alphas, one of pair progeny will substitute it, which can result in parent-child pair. Spicy.

These are just 2 examples, but to complete the list would probably claim years and go beyond the framework of this page.

- thats a 2 examples of BS false attributions.

However, there are also a few exceptions from the rule.

- whole nature is exception. Incest and resulted incestophobia are strictly human societal phenomena.

However, the latter, however, combined with mothers and siblings to secure the family's balance of power (like the pharaohs in Egypt or Nero in the ancient Roman Empire) or to satisfy sexual tendencies.

- Nero example, is an example of common propaganda to blacken character/legacy of political opponent that is prevalent trough out whole human history. "Yeah, and write that he fucked his mother too!".

Looks like your "knowledge" of history is as "deep" as your "knowledge" of biology. Watching history and discovery channels, do not substitute learning, bud.

So you should get better information before making any statements.

- i have my info from akshually studying science, bud. Funny how you ignored good chunk of my post ( and subsequently whole context ), just in order to try figuratively flex with your non existent "knowledge". Fact that it was a reply to a post ( aka context ) spreading common misconceptions about incest/inbreeding - omitted. Whole part about "breeding" omitted.

Bud, you arent as smart as you think... more so... you arent smart at all.

And I didn't even understand the comparison between homosexuality and incest, so you were right, it makes no sense.

- its a comparison of phobias and resulting bigotry, bud. If you did not get it... well... I already wrote that you arent smart, arent i?

Yeah, and in case you are "thinking" ( i doubt that you can, but just in case ) that it is somehow an endorsement of sexual activity between close relatives, it isnt. Its a rant against ignorance and bigotry. If anything, its an endorsement of common sense, rationality and actual science. And not myths about scary incest mutants.

 

[Peter]

- nope, this is entirely right.

- thats absolutely incorrect. Inbreeding is very common in nature, including among pack mammals, who may prefer to mate within their own "family". And when they dont, they may seek out partner that would resemble their closest "family member" physically. This is principle of familiarity. Yeah, and mating "instinct" will trample over any other considerations anyway.

Also, you see, instincts arent really a thing, at least not in the way people generally believe, unless it is something really basic. Even insects have to "learn" some of their abilities by observation, while most people would attribute whole insect behavior as be entirely "instinct driven".

- elephant males are highly aggressive, especially during mating season. Claiming that elephants became matrilinear strictly in order to prevent incest is wild. Concept of "siblings" simply dont exists among animals. Some species may try to avoid mating with "relative", but than again... they dont care, especially when there are no other choices.

- wolf pairs form inside pack and than spread out, creating new packs. Wolf packs operate strictly on familiar basis and mostly form "alliances" with related packs. Female wolves leave their packs significantly more rare, unlike males, who do it only when pack grows too big and has too many males already. And they do it in order to decrease aggressiveness and squabbles inside pack, not because "incest bad". Although direct "sibling" mates in wolf packs are rarer than "cousin" mates, they are far from being unique. More so, if a pack will loose one of alphas, one of pair progeny will substitute it, which can result in parent-child pair. Spicy.

- thats a 2 examples of BS false attributions.

- whole nature is exception. Incest and resulted incestophobia are strictly human societal phenomena.

- Nero example, is an example of common propaganda to blacken character/legacy of political opponent that is prevalent trough out whole human history. "Yeah, and write that he fucked his mother too!".

Looks like your "knowledge" of history is as "deep" as your "knowledge" of biology. Watching history and discovery channels, do not substitute learning, bud.

- i have my info from akshually studying science, bud. Funny how you ignored good chunk of my post ( and subsequently whole context ), just in order to try figuratively flex with your non existent "knowledge". Fact that it was a reply to a post ( aka context ) spreading common misconceptions about incest/inbreeding - omitted. Whole part about "breeding" omitted.

Bud, you arent as smart as you think... more so... you arent smart at all.

- its a comparison of phobias and resulting bigotry, bud. If you did not get it... well... I already wrote that you arent smart, arent i?

Yeah, and in case you are "thinking" ( i doubt that you can, but just in case ) that it is somehow an endorsement of sexual activity between close relatives, it isnt. Its a rant against ignorance and bigotry. If anything, its an endorsement of common sense, rationality and actual science. And not myths about scary incest mutants.

"umm akshually studying science ", bud.

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Bud, why do you denigrate history and discovery channels, these are serious verifiable sources.

And before I forget it:
(I am, as you mentioned several times, not as smart as you)
"Yes, he fucked his mother too!"

By the way, why do you constantly call me "Bud"?
I hope that this is the abbreviation of Buddy and not a typing error, and they actually meant "butt", I would have to get angry about that too!

 

[s45636526]

Thats mostly the fucked up ami morals.
Remember the games where you stole cars, kill cops and peasants and fuck whores? The parents went crazy about the sex in the game, everything else was fine. What do you expect comes from teaching your kids sex is worse than murdering people? Sex sells is a global strategy and yet its the worst you can put in games and toys. Hell, the world renown barbie dont even has nipples despite the fact most kids grew up sucking on them. The delusion anyone would be able to lure adults with sex into buying stuff and protecting kids from learning about the most natural things and most selling strategies at the same time is outright insane. Sounds a little like "do what i say, not what i do"...which brings us to incest since it is and always was pretty common between growing up siblings and -aside from rape families- daddys girls and mamas boys are also a common human thing and i dont have the slightest doubt they can and will grow sexual if at least one side wants/allows it, not all, but enough to impact every statistic if they would answer honsetly. Some countries even made it illegal to have same sex relationships, do you think they dont happen because of the laws?
You cant restrict any kind of sex, not by laws, not by rules and not with money. They still try it and fail. However, devs who support restrictive plattforms are idiots. Not only because they bend to their will, but also because they allow them to make others bend to their will. Everyone who makes stuff patreon dont likes should avoid patreon at all costs and support their business competition instead, let those grow who allow free will, free art and free sex, not the cyberdictators.

I'm right with you there. There is a dire lack of common sense.

 

[i_patchy]

Bud, why do you denigrate history and discovery channels, these are serious verifiable sources.

- because they are not viable sources of information, buddy. At the very best ( ant it is extremely rare ) you can treat them as pop-science recreational channels for kids. At worst ( way more common ), they are actually spreading misinformation. This is especially true in case with history channel, which actually became a meme long time ago.

 

[Peter]

- because they are not viable sources of information, buddy. At the very best ( ant it is extremely rare ) you can treat them as pop-science recreational channels for kids. At worst ( way more common ), they are actually spreading misinformation. This is especially true in case with history channel, which actually became a meme long time ago.

According to your constant insults, and your lack of acceptance for the opinions of others who do not share your views, I spoiled the pleasure and interest in further entertainment with you.
I have not personally attacked or insulted you in any way, if I had intended, I think, I would have thought of a lot more than just "M*****f*****", so what is the shit?

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(I hope a moderator sees it just like me and deleted this dirt, that would stop me to report it.)

Imagine how tight it would be if we were still living in your Bubble, there would be no place for you and your excessive ego.

But then I want to get rid of one thing.
Oh, if documentation is primarily made for entertainment (not only for children), they not only consist of beautiful pictures and shallow (non -profound information).
It is also clear that they only cut topics and cannot completely discuss because of the short time.
The fact is also that the information it contains is based on "Akshually Studying Science" (Like yours ) and have to withstand a fact check.
Just because they do not correspond to your positions or your knowledge does not spread disinformation.
What brings me to the question where you studied biology and history?
I do not hope at a university that is operated or managed by evangelical Christians!
(This is no joke, that's serious!)

You explain exceptional situations to the standard because it is easier for you to argue.
You establish connections between things that have no common denominator, and then complains that they are viewed separately from each other.
You just look for the parts that fit into your worldview, the rest is not only simply ignored but mocked and disparaged.

So far so well, but before you answer, consider a few things:

Criticism is a two -sided sword (metaphorical).
On the one hand, she shows us our mistakes and helps us to learn and grow from them (constructive criticism).
On the other hand, she is inappropriate, not helpful or even insulting (deconstructive criticism).
Self -criticism has not yet harmed anyone and it is the first step to improve.
Incidentally, the same applies to humor, try it out, he often helps and can cause a lot of criticism that cannot.

So that was all I had to tell you personally.

⚠︎ By the Way - Are you pursuing me? ⚠︎
It seems that you are interested in me and my Thread, sorry Bud, I'm not your Mother and also not available.
I think, I have to take a (or 2) on you too.

Oh and thanks for the LCs ,-`♡´- you and I will still bring it very far.
With your help I can reach the 100k in no time.

Have a good time and a good life in your world.
I am glad that it is not a world in which I have to live.

PS to myself: Do not talk about conspiracy theories with this guy, he is probably a "Trumpist"!

 

[i_patchy]

According to your constant insults, and your lack of acceptance for the opinions of others who do not share your views, I spoiled the pleasure and interest in further entertainment with you.

- buddy, look at the mirror. You started this "conversation" by not just replying to my year old post by taking it completely out of context, but also by directly insulting me. Nothing of this "interaction" has anything to do with "acceptance of different opinions".

I have not personally attacked or insulted you in any way, if I had intended, I think, I would have thought of a lot more than just "M*****f*****", so what is the shit?

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(I hope a moderator sees it just like me and deleted this dirt, that would stop me to report it.)

- except you did, bud. Both directly and indirectly.

Just because they do not correspond to your positions or your knowledge does not spread disinformation.
What brings me to the question where you studied biology and history?
I do not hope at a university that is operated or managed by evangelical Christians!
(This is no joke, that's serious!)

- world doesnt revolves around US, bud. Your posts are not just unserious, they look like a stream of consciousness of a mentally ill individual, or text generated by machine.

You explain exceptional situations to the standard because it is easier for you to argue.
You establish connections between things that have no common denominator, and then complains that they are viewed separately from each other.
You just look for the parts that fit into your worldview, the rest is not only simply ignored but mocked and disparaged.

- i explained to you how it is in the real world, bud. You, on the other hand, started this "engagement", by outright making false statements and spouting factoids.

Oh and thanks for the LCs ,-`♡´- you and I will still bring it very far.
With your help I can reach the 100k in no time.

- hate to burst your bubble, but "negative" likes dont give points.

PS to myself: Do not talk about conspiracy theories with this guy, he is probably a "Trumpist"!

- is that some kind of "trolling" attempt? Because if it is, you failed.

 

[Sertinus]

weird societal shaming

 

[Mageborn]

Incest is how you get goblins! You sure you want goblins?

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Yes I am absolutely sure I want goblins, please give me goblins.

 

[scarlett]

because the world is fucked. Consensual sex between to closely related people is considered dangerous and obscene. degrading and raping girls is fine but a loving encounter between relatives is beyond the pale.

 

[User_24645]

Simple answer, taboo and taboo is hot

 

[Renewed6105]

Platforms need to lighten up.

 

[pete179]

i think it's because it's taboo and not allowed in real life. thats why we play those games i think.

 

[pervin]

Because mentally deranged and desilusional people are allowed to become activists and to try and enforce their oppinion if enough of them gather. No matter how hard they try to hide it this is based on their religious beliefs and their ignorance. However I think this will greatly backfire on them. I also think it's an act of desperation on their part because the world is become more and more open-minded.

 

[pretz]

Just society man

 

[Dnch2019]

Because incest is probably way more common than people care to admit. maybe not full blown parents and kids. but cousins and aunts and newphews and shit im sure it happens way more often than people care to admit. I mean if your american you know about the stereotypes in certain places in the usa. Mexico has a region like that as well. Shit in pakistan i think like a third or more of there marriages are between cousins.

 

[Coffee]

In the first episode of 'Game of Thrones' everyone said, "Eew Gross!" When then brother and sister was doing it, but in their mind was thinking, "Hot!" It is wrong and that is why it is popular.