discussion Abandoned VN Ren'Py [HS2] Money or Morals [Day4.5] [Ronovan]

[kpoptarts]

mostly not, unless it's a new loli AVN from the veteran devs like Blackheart or Ketzal

In the last several years, the only dev I have yet to regret giving money to is Blackheart games.

 

[User_23742]

I posted this on the other site, but will make a comment here too, not sure which you're more active on:

"I hope I'm wrong but, to me, making spin offs sounds a lot like something that is going to be used to make other stories or "not canon" events to excuse... well, I'll just say questionable content... You'll want to use all the cute models you've made, I'd bet money on that, but will you have it just be the Mc from MoM doing the fucking of those models? Again, I might be wrong and I hope I am, but experience tells me that "spin offs," is often code for "not technically," three letter content. And often, "I'm bored or not inspired anymore by this," often means, "I want to make things that won't fly with my fans like having the lol1's in gangbangs, sharing and swinging, and stuff, but it would cost me to make it in this game I said wouldn't have that kind of stuff." Once again, I hope I'm wrong, but also, experience tells me this is often how it goes.

If I am wrong and the spin offs are not just round-about ways to get characters from this into situations where other characters bang them or they are in things that wouldn't fly in this game then I'll be very happy, as I liked this a lot and wouldn't mind some side content if it was this Mc still with these girls. Anyway, I'll avoid a long rant this time, cheers."

Oh, nonono. The only guy that will fuck the girls from Money or Morals is the Protagonist of that story.

 

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[RickS]

Fuck, yeah... haven't played v4.5 jet, wanted to play the next update

is it even worth to play v4.5 now?

 

[gestved]

Fuck, yeah... haven't played v4.5 jet, wanted to play the next update

is it even worth to play v4.5 now?

the scene with the mom is kinda hot, there is also a scene with the aunt, but it was more the aftermatch of the kidnapping

 

[JoeTheMc84]

Oh, nonono. The only guy that will fuck the girls from Money or Morals is the Protagonist of that story.

Very nice.

 

[drcstack]

You're exactly right. Which is why I will make more content with the characters from the game in shorter "spin-off" format games.

Money or Morals is NOT dead. The "main" game is.

Not to be an ass or anything, but what's the point of spin-offs if the main series is dead? I truly don't understand. It's better off all dead. Unless it's something you just want to do just because? I mean it is your IP to do what you want. If you want continuation, why not just rewrite the entire story from scratch or just tweak where you left off? Doing spin-offs on a now dead series is kinda pointless imo. It loses all sense, direction, purpose and reason. It's almost like putting the cart before the horse.

 

[User_23742]

Not to be an ass or anything, but what's the point of spin-offs if the main series is dead? I truly don't understand. It's better off all dead. Unless it's something you just want to do just because? I mean it is your IP to do what you want. If you want continuation, why not just rewrite the entire story from scratch or just tweak where you left off? Doing spin-offs on a now dead series is kinda pointless imo. It loses all sense, direction, purpose and reason. It's almost like putting the cart before the horse.

I really don't have the patience of remaking something I've already made. Anyhow I like how Money or Morals turned out, I'm honestly just switching format on how I'm telling the story from now on. Instead of a very linear day to day format it will be more split up in standalone games focusing on 1-3 characters per game. I think this is a good solution but we'll see what people think when I release the first of hopefully many smaller games.

Not being stuck in a day to day format also allows for more fun scenarios to create. The story will be put in the background a bit more though and focus will be more on the actual sex scenes.

 

[Montimer]

I really don't have the patience of remaking something I've already made. Anyhow I like how Money or Morals turned out, I'm honestly just switching format on how I'm telling the story from now on. Instead of a very linear day to day format it will be more split up in standalone games focusing on 1-3 characters per game. I think this is a good solution but we'll see what people think when I release the first of hopefully many smaller games.

Not being stuck in a day to day format also allows for more fun scenarios to create. The story will be put in the background a bit more though and focus will be more on the actual sex scenes.

Excellent change. Not every game needs to be a bloated collection of different women fill the checkmark of what's needed.
1-3 characters feels way more personal. Way more content if people end up loking it.

Out of curiosity, will they be loli focused or adult focused?

 

[RickS]

I really don't have the patience of remaking something I've already made. Anyhow I like how Money or Morals turned out, I'm honestly just switching format on how I'm telling the story from now on. Instead of a very linear day to day format it will be more split up in standalone games focusing on 1-3 characters per game. I think this is a good solution but we'll see what people think when I release the first of hopefully many smaller games.

Not being stuck in a day to day format also allows for more fun scenarios to create. The story will be put in the background a bit more though and focus will be more on the actual sex scenes.

I was never a fan of the overarching story with the kidnappings and sex-drug stuff, but i loved the interactions with the family and friends and the tutoring. So if the scenarios go more in that direction, I'm loving it!
And hopefully you find your passion again, some of your lewd-scenes where so fucking hot!!! (hoping for more)

 

[Montimer]

Although now that I look at the front page, it does really seem like a looooooooooot of people voted for the lolis being the best part. Which makes me wonder if that will be taken into consideration. Of course assuming you like them too. Doing something others wants instead of you is never healthy.

Also, thoughts on actually ditching honey select and picking up DAZ? Could not only save you lot of time due to lack of assets but also give you a very useful skill in terms of model editing/DAZ scene making.
Plus DAZ has some amazing looking characters.

 

[yoyomistro]

I really don't have the patience of remaking something I've already made. Anyhow I like how Money or Morals turned out, I'm honestly just switching format on how I'm telling the story from now on. Instead of a very linear day to day format it will be more split up in standalone games focusing on 1-3 characters per game. I think this is a good solution but we'll see what people think when I release the first of hopefully many smaller games.

Not being stuck in a day to day format also allows for more fun scenarios to create. The story will be put in the background a bit more though and focus will be more on the actual sex scenes.

Cool. Just a small continuity suggestion. Maybe for the first installment, just say the camping trip was cancelled due to weather, then launch into whatever storyline you have planned? Just for the sake of immersion.

Although now that I look at the front page, it does really seem like a looooooooooot of people voted for the lolis being the best part. Which makes me wonder if that will be taken into consideration. Of course assuming you like them too. Doing something others wants instead of you is never healthy.

Also, thoughts on actually ditching honey select and picking up DAZ? Could not only save you lot of time due to lack of assets but also give you a very useful skill in terms of model editing/DAZ scene making.
Plus DAZ has some amazing looking characters.

He's actually one of the few devs that does good work with Illusion models, why the fuck would he switch? The reason not to use Illusion models is if you're just using stock, low to mid quality garbage that everyone has seen 100 times already, that's not what's happening here.

 

[i_patchy]

Yet another one bites the dust.

 

[Inkeyisle]

This really sucks. Never even got anything with the sister, which was who I was most interested in. Man, another great one bites the dust

 

[User_23742]

Out of curiosity, will they be loli focused or adult focused?

Both. I enjoy all body types pretty much

Also, thoughts on actually ditching honey select and picking up DAZ? Could not only save you lot of time due to lack of assets but also give you a very useful skill in terms of model editing/DAZ scene making.
Plus DAZ has some amazing looking characters.

Not moving to Daz. If anything it would be Blender in that case since I actually work in that program a lot. But I like HS2, it's quick to create characters and no rendering time. It's limiting in many aspects for sure but I can work around them with more preparation

This really sucks. Never even got anything with the sister, which was who I was most interested in. Man, another great one bites the dust

Don't count her out yet

 

[KaySwitchPrime]

Sad this was abandoned, there was so much potential. Some feedback, is there are too many characters to keep track of. I played the whole game in a day and still had trouble keeping track of them. Other than that, really solid.

 

[Inkeyisle]

Don't count her out yet

This kind of hope is dangerous

But for real hope things go better for you in the future. Obviously I'm disappointed about it ending like this. But that doesn't mean I've given up on you and your skills making a vn, best of luck with what you are doing next and I look forward to seeing how it goes

 

[Montimer]

Both. I enjoy all body types pretty much


Not moving to Daz. If anything it would be Blender in that case since I actually work in that program a lot. But I like HS2, it's quick to create characters and no rendering time. It's limiting in many aspects for sure but I can work around them with more preparation


Don't count her out yet

Thanks for the reply! It's great to know infos on dev's exploits and future developments. More so when it's going to be another games+ game.
Also don't get me wrong with the question about DAZ. Only suggesting it because of the asset aspect. I think your scenes in HS2 looked fantastic. Alongside the models.
DAZ has just usually more assets to work with which opens up new maps, scenes etc.
Regardless, super happy you're continuing your work on VNs.

Even happier that the game is going to be more humble in terms of character casts. It's an awesome way forward.

 

[Djin]

I really don't have the patience of remaking something I've already made. Anyhow I like how Money or Morals turned out, I'm honestly just switching format on how I'm telling the story from now on. Instead of a very linear day to day format it will be more split up in standalone games focusing on 1-3 characters per game. I think this is a good solution but we'll see what people think when I release the first of hopefully many smaller games.

Not being stuck in a day to day format also allows for more fun scenarios to create. The story will be put in the background a bit more though and focus will be more on the actual sex scenes.

Can we at least get the camping trip? I was actually looking forward to that.

 

[WhatsMyName]

gonna try this even if its abandoned & is in this (I'm not a fan of) style