discussion VN Ren'Py [HS2] Surviving My Family [Chapter 2 Part 1] [Carmine Note Games]

[Tiur]

Haha oh I'm well aware that vasectomies can fail And yes.. they do fail to go back for the follow up test.. whoops

But I still consider it pretty unlikely to fail years later.

Unlikely, but not at all impossible. I know two different people who are both recanalization babies.

 

[Montimer]

I did like the roleplaying parts of the game. I like wives who are a bit fucked in the head. That being said, I don't think this is a game which would classify as a game going into games+?
In my personal opinion, of course.
Few things.
I hope the blonde sister and niece don't get content for a while. Her husband/dad conveniently died to open up a harem route for sure. However that doesnt mean that people don't grieve. It would be insultingly bad if one or two updates in, sister went on her knees to suck a cock.

I hope that over time, some form of jealousy arises. Since there is only one man... but so many women. Women who have needs and over time get jealous. Perhaps make it a competition where each of them tries to do crazier things to win favor of the MC. Then over time gradually shifting to getting used to being in a harem.

I do hope in some actual loli content... but yeah, it's probably unlikely. Characters were already introduced. The girls haven't been fucked by their dad so no chance of flashbacks. Plus the game is on the "other site" too so adding stuff like that would mean it getting booted off there.

 

[Nicest_Incest]

I did like the roleplaying parts of the game. I like wives who are a bit fucked in the head. That being said, I don't think this is a game which would classify as a game going into games+?
In my personal opinion, of course.
Few things.
I hope the blonde sister and niece don't get content for a while. Her husband/dad conveniently died to open up a harem route for sure. However that doesnt mean that people don't grieve. It would be insultingly bad if one or two updates in, sister went on her knees to suck a cock.

I hope that over time, some form of jealousy arises. Since there is only one man... but so many women. Women who have needs and over time get jealous. Perhaps make it a competition where each of them tries to do crazier things to win favor of the MC. Then over time gradually shifting to getting used to being in a harem.

I do hope in some actual loli content... but yeah, it's probably unlikely. Characters were already introduced. The girls haven't been fucked by their dad so no chance of flashbacks. Plus the game is on the "other site" too so adding stuff like that would mean it getting booted off there.

oh well, fuck the other site. Half the time they will just shit on it and leave a bad review anyway just for the soft NTR alone (the unannounced wife/sis throuple/threesome, and she mentions having 2 girls while she was away like that was better than 2 guys). But yeah only reason it's in+ are because of the loli tag though there are no lolis, so dunno why that was put there. Even hebe/teen would be a stretch for even the youngest 2 daughters and the twin nieces, and there's no default age setter either. Not that that matters, specific ages never come up in conversation anyway, just more dumb everyone-is-18 crap from that standpoint. So if people are downloading this because of the loli tag, you are wasting your time.

 

[tenshi]

which link do i get from here i dont see a difference besides the name

 

[Nicest_Incest]

which link do i get from here i dont see a difference besides the name

take your pick. It's as it says, 95/85 compressed means 95/85% compression so slightly smaller download. I just did lossless because my internet doesn't suck (2GB/s fiber).

 

[Montimer]

oh well, fuck the other site. Half the time they will just shit on it and leave a bad review anyway just for the soft NTR alone (the unannounced wife/sis throuple/threesome, and she mentions having 2 girls while she was away like that was better than 2 guys). But yeah only reason it's in+ are because of the loli tag though there are no lolis, so dunno why that was put there. Even hebe/teen would be a stretch for even the youngest 2 daughters and the twin nieces, and there's no default age setter either. Not that that matters, specific ages never come up in conversation anyway, just more dumb everyone-is-18 crap from that standpoint. So if people are downloading this because of the loli tag, you are wasting your time.

I like being reasonable. So nah. "Fucking the other site" is not wise. I do agree that is sucks that they very arbitrarily decide who gets to stay and who doesnt. But lot of the big artists accumulated fair amount of people through that site too. Think of Ketzal, Seath, Westy etc. At some point, they had their games on there. Nobody can deny that having more eyes on you is good. Because more eyes equals more support. More support means money. Money means financial security. Financial security means being able to develop the game more if the developer is honest and actually does his job.

As for the loli tag... I do feel like it's a stretch. They're very much well developed teens.
The roleplaying aspect of the wife, later sister is nice. I liked that. That alone is honestly more a "games+" reason than the girls

I do wish the developer good luck with the game and I hope there's future commitment. Although (as biased lurker of games+) would love some actual loli content as it's extremely rare nowadays

 

[Nicest_Incest]

I like being reasonable. So nah. "Fucking the other site" is not wise. I do agree that is sucks that they very arbitrarily decide who gets to stay and who doesnt. But lot of the big artists accumulated fair amount of people through that site too. Think of Ketzal, Seath, Westy etc. At some point, they had their games on there. Nobody can deny that having more eyes on you is good. Because more eyes equals more support. More support means money. Money means financial security. Financial security means being able to develop the game more if the developer is honest and actually does his job.

As for the loli tag... I do feel like it's a stretch. They're very much well developed teens.
The roleplaying aspect of the wife, later sister is nice. I liked that. That alone is honestly more a "games+" reason than the girls

I do wish the developer good luck with the game and I hope there's future commitment. Although (as biased lurker of games+) would love some actual loli content as it's extremely rare nowadays

Financial security = get a real job, divert 10% or more of your paycheck to Bitcoin investing (buy when it drops under 5% for the 1-2 weeks prior, sell when it's up ~10% from your buy price before the short-term bubble pops, repeat). Porn in general is a slowly shrinking industry (mainly due to free = why pay for it?) so almost no one gets that these days from an AVN competing with 10,000 other active devs and the limited support money pool (though good loli/incest ones like Ketzal's may slightly raise those odds, if you can get on SS). For every Dr. Pink Cake that started when there were Covid lockdowns/home quarantines there's 1000 that don't even make 1% of that and those quarantines are sadly are long over (could be why his AVN hasn't had an update in over a year, the money river dried up to a trickle even for him). Barring a 2nd global pandemic forcing more lockdowns AVNs for money these days are a bad idea. Doing it for fun or simply because you want to tell a story, sure, for money nope, that's why there's so many abandoned ones and so few completed ones, mostly from dead dreams and unrealistic expectations. These days if you make it to $1000/mo even after 2-3 years and more than one completed AVN you are among a lucky few (probably among the top 5% of AVN devs), and after the needed hours are either put in making it or paying someone else to do it often what's left doesn't even amount to half of US federal min wage. Still, most of my subs came from recommendations on Discord based on what I'm already subbed to or from here or from A T F. None of those ever were on F95 due to loli content, and every other AVN allowed on F95 or Patreon isn't worth supporting anyway, at least not to most (for one I may have liked it enough to dl it for free, but not pay money for it, only the kinks I want the are not allowed on most sites like Patreon and F95 get my $100 monthly support money). Sure, those devs are not getting rich but they still do 6- or 12-month updates so apparently they have a day job too and don't care about even trying (and probably failing if they set that as a goal) making their AVN hobby they probably make hardly anything from their day job.

 

[Montimer]

Financial security = get a real job, divert 10% or more of your paycheck to Bitcoin investing (buy when it drops under 5% for the 1-2 weeks prior, sell when it's up ~10% from your buy price before the short-term bubble pops, repeat). Porn in general is a slowly shrinking industry (mainly due to free = why pay for it?) so almost no one gets that these days from an AVN competing with 10,000 other active devs and the limited support money pool (though good loli/incest ones like Ketzal's may slightly raise those odds, if you can get on SS). For every Dr. Pink Cake that started when there were Covid lockdowns/home quarantines there's 1000 that don't even make 1% of that and those quarantines are sadly are long over (could be why his AVN hasn't had an update in over a year, the money river dried up to a trickle even for him). Barring a 2nd global pandemic forcing more lockdowns AVNs for money these days are a bad idea. Doing it for fun or simply because you want to tell a story, sure, for money nope, that's why there's so many abandoned ones and so few completed ones, mostly from dead dreams and unrealistic expectations. These days if you make it to $1000/mo you are among a lucky few (probably among the top 5% of AVN devs), and after the needed hours are either put in making it or paying someone else to do it often what's left doesn't even amount to half of US federal min wage. Still, most of my subs came from recommendations on Discord based on what I'm already subbed to or from here or from A T F. None of those ever were on Fuck95 due to loli content, and every other AVN allowed on Fuck95 or Patreon isn't worth supporting anyway, at least not to most (for one I may have liked it enough to dl it for free, but not pay money for it, only the kinks I want the are not allowed on most sites like Patreon and Fuck95 get my $100 monthly support money). Sure, those devs are not getting rich but they still do 6- or 12-month updates so apparently they have a day job too and don't care about even trying (and probably failing if they set that as a goal) making their AVN hobby they probably make hardly anything from their day job.

Look, I dont disagree with you that having a proper irl job helps but you can absolutely make money off it.
All it takes is actual good way to market yourself. If you dont promote your game and don't hammer into people WHY they should support you, nobody will.
If you dont show off your game and tell them where to find more, your game will be only played by handful of people.
I genuinely believe that if you're smart about it, you can outcompete majority of devs via smart promotion. One HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE advantage porn has is that it's widespread. When you go searching for porn, you usually find it.

I don't deny that it's a fickle job. You entirely rely on goodwill of others.

I do have to disagree with the "every VN thats on the other side or patreon isnt worth supporting anyway"
I personally have paid a fair bit of devs who make some really damn good content. Just recently discovered one which was quite brilliant actually.
But... but. I do agree that games which are on patreon specifically are more tonally deaf and restrictive. Alternatively they entirely change their story and characters to suit TOS.
Any smart dev moves to substar, boosty, fanbox...
Whatever the fuck works for them. Because Patreon is extremely unstable. very convenient for sure but unstable

My point was though: If people as community support devs and there's platform to support them on, collectively they can employ them. Which leads to the person being able to make games in their free time.
My example is Seath Black. Never once I was disappointed. Man works on 3 games at once, doesn't relent.

Also, I do feel like we should take this to DMs

 

[Carmine♫Games]

I like being reasonable. So nah. "Fucking the other site" is not wise. I do agree that is sucks that they very arbitrarily decide who gets to stay and who doesnt. But lot of the big artists accumulated fair amount of people through that site too. Think of Ketzal, Seath, Westy etc. At some point, they had their games on there. Nobody can deny that having more eyes on you is good. Because more eyes equals more support. More support means money. Money means financial security. Financial security means being able to develop the game more if the developer is honest and actually does his job.

As for the loli tag... I do feel like it's a stretch. They're very much well developed teens.
The roleplaying aspect of the wife, later sister is nice. I liked that. That alone is honestly more a "games+" reason than the girls

I do wish the developer good luck with the game and I hope there's future commitment. Although (as biased lurker of games+) would love some actual loli content as it's extremely rare nowadays

True statement if I'm not mistaken fosters back 2 school was under games until last update(don't quote me on that lol) and the tag for smol states about prepubescent so I went with teen.
But if they are considered smol

Spoiler

well one of them has lewded you I guess

than I have no problem with them changing the tag and moving it I just need some guidance not trying to break the rules.

Wasn't my decision.

 

[Skrotum]

Without having played the update yet. I really like that you can choose the quality with the download.

 

[osiris789]

Looks like a fun and interesting premise, I'll probably take a look at Ch.3

 

[Playernonymous]

Will there be pregnancy and/or impregnation?

 

[Nicest_Incest]

Will there be pregnancy and/or impregnation?

given choices in latest update yes (mom will be so pissed when she finds out her brother knocked up Lily). Granted you need to really want it to happen, first by choosing to cum inside her and then next day choosing to bullshit her out of taking a Plan B pill by telling her first times almost never end up with pregnancy (ha, that's a good one, if only that were true not sure how much different my current real life would be).

 

[aloysious]

Unless it's for a future character. The game doesn't belong in the "games+" category.
There is no loli (yet?). A character acting childish doesn't make her a loli.

Anyway ... It's a good start for the game. It has some good potential. I'll follow the game and see where this si going.

 

[Nicest_Incest]

Unless it's for a future character. The game doesn't belong in the "games+" category.
There is no loli (yet?). A character acting childish doesn't make her a loli.

Anyway ... It's a good start for the game. It has some good potential. I'll follow the game and see where this si going.

Be our luck this site uses the same defitnition of a loli as F95's idiot definition (similar incest including stepcrap or between related other chars even when the MC has no involvement in it) = if there's even a possibility of her being 17 or less then she's a loli. Even the youngest have tits so are probably 13 at least = hebe for a realistic tag, as even at 12 if they've hit puberty and started growing tits and a few pubes to shave off then they are not lolis anymore. Honestly I'm starting to think alot of AVNs are unrealisticly getting a loli tag slapped on them to buff up the + section's numbers to make it look good, as legit loli AVNs and updates for them are few and far between lately, esp since Westygate and devs like 13 and others since simply quitting AVN development, so it's to avoid not having anything new added to the + section otherwise for multiple weeks at a time, since most traffic to here is just for the + section.

 

[Freyr]

Be our luck this site uses the same defitnition of a loli as Fuck95's idiot definition (similar incest including stepcrap or between related other chars even when the MC has no involvement in it) = if there's even a possibility of her being 17 or less then she's a loli. Even the youngest have tits so are probably 13 at least = hebe for a realistic tag, as even at 12 if they've hit puberty and started growing tits and a few pubes to shave off then they are not lolis anymore. Honestly I'm starting to think alot of AVNs are unrealisticly getting a loli tag slapped on them to buff up the + section's numbers to make it look good, as legit loli AVNs and updates for them are few and far between lately, esp since Westygate and devs like 13 and others since simply quitting AVN development, so it's to avoid not having anything new added to the + section otherwise for multiple weeks at a time, since most traffic to here is just for the + section.

Although I tend to agree with what you are saying, discussions about the meaning of tags is probably off-topic and belongs somewhere else.

My understanding is that Games+ is there for games which are banned at other sites for some reason (including, but not exclusively, loli). The only problem is that the producers of such games have been dropping like flies recently, so the Games+ update page gets a bit empty, Especially if you disregard all the Japanese games.

 

[Nicest_Incest]

Although I tend to agree with what you are saying, discussions about the meaning of tags is probably off-topic and belongs somewhere else.

My understanding is that Games+ is there for games which are banned at other sites for some reason (including, but not exclusively, loli). The only problem is that the producers of such games have been dropping like flies recently, so the Games+ update page gets a bit empty, Especially if you disregard all the Japanese games.

That used to be the case, banned elsewhere so worthy of + aka restricted aka sinner's section. But that hardly happens anymore, as there's relatively few non-greedy devs that will still make an AVN if F95 or Patreon or Steam won't allow it or if it's been outlawed where they live, so now it's here if it has a loli tag, whether it's deserved or not. Quite a few are in + and on F95 too, even with no loli decensor patch (since there's actually no lolis to censor). Speaking of law a bit unrelated but now Kentucky requires a scan of state ID to even visit a porn site (discovered a few minutes ago when my VPN was set to there for speed/lag purposes). Nothing an IP change can't fix so a pointless law but that still sucks.

 

[Freyr]

now Kentucky requires a scan of state ID to even visit a porn site

Land of the Free, Home of the Brave?

"Interesting" to see how you can vote without ID but need an ID to visit a website...

Talk about off-topic... Mods, please feel free to delete this and sorry for making your life harder...

 

[Olheden]

Tried it, very promising. Renders are a bit rough but the story might go to interesting places, especially if those tags become reality. I wish we could set the ages of everyone in the game manually, allows for better immersion and roleplaying, especially if the dialogues change to reflect it.

 

[Jwolf]

I got a serious question? Am I the only one getting sims vibe from the way the characters look? Either way I cant wait too see more. but I feel the characters are sims.