discussion Abandoned VN Ren'Py DAZ Apocalypse [v0.37b-LMAr2] [LEGACYUSER]

[RealLegacyUser]

alot of good stuff here, scenes are great, and its a real incestfest. but if i have one complaint its that the crux of the plot is complete bull shit. the notion that incestuous breeding results somehow in mutant children normally is a myth, complete and utter nonsense, that is not how genetics work. having no notable genetic defects even after several subsequent incestuous generations is not special, its normal. the ONLY thing that occurs after multiple incestuous generations is that the statistical rate of passive alleles increases slightly. it only becomes statistically significant after 6 subsequent generations of nonstop incest. and passive alleles aren't somehow mutations or somesuch nonsense. for example, being colorblind is a passive allele so if the lineage had colorblindness, after several generations of incest it will become more and more likely to be a trait shared across that lineage. even still it would take something like 20 nonstop generations before exceeding a 50/50 chance, and around 36 before its generally seen in all offspring. which is a very long time, its been about 50 generations since the fall of the Roman empire. we are talking more than 1000 years of incest before everyone gets a passive allele like colorblindness. the only real issues come from large populations all being genetically close, making viruses have a much easier time sweeping through populations for instance. that being said however, all of humanity is effectively an incestuous race. mitochondrial DNA is inherited matrilineally from mother to children and is an exact copy of that DNA, meaning that set will be the same no matter how many generations. from this we know for a fact that at one point humanity almost went extinct, because there are only 5 sets of mitochondrial DNA in our species, we can see in many other species several hundred sets of mitochondrial DNA. that means that at some point humanity was down to only 5 women, and we all literally descend from those 5. low key you have a 1/5 chance no matter who you bang, that your mitochondrial DNA is identical. meaning some level of incest tracing the line back far enough. which is why humans are all roughly the same height and muscle mass, when dogs for example come in all shapes and sizes.

so basically what im trying to say, is that the company or whatever wanting the MC in this game because they have no issues incestuously breeding, is stupid nonsense based on an old wives tale made up to dissuade siblings from fucking, with no basis at all in scientific fact. if you want them to still be genetically special, what you can do is say something like their lineage has no passive alleles, no never any chance of colorblindness for example no matter how many generations, effectively perfect genes through dumb luck, meaning many more positives to incestuous breeding to keep the gene pool free of negative traits from bloodlines with passive alleles. much more scientific basis with that notion, that what is in game currently.

sorry, turned into a rant there. im just sick of seeing these anti-scientific lies propagated in my damn porn games lol.

Homie I ain't no geneticist. It's a plot device for non-geneticists. Sorry you are sick of it, I really haven't seen it in other games. That being said my plot isn't that they are only special because of that fact, it's far more than that. It does confer special abilities. Not sure if you ranted before playing to the end of .37. I'd love to hear your thoughts about that.

 

[RealLegacyUser]

Nice explanation, I like to understand a little of everything... you can't know everything, but you can know a little of everything. Incestuous relationships, ****philia, etc. were marginalized so that the human race could be improved morally, not scientifically. Lies are what we are told most, just ignore the current narrative of climate change, deforestation, etc. The changing planet has always been and will always be like this until the next ice age around the year 60,000 lol So... let's get to what interests us LOLI SEXO, the artists could give us solo images throughout the wait.

I had that via Deviant Art. They nuked me for it.

 

[Lonesome Toad]

alot of good stuff here, scenes are great, and its a real incestfest. but if i have one complaint its that the crux of the plot is complete bull shit. the notion that incestuous breeding results somehow in mutant children normally is a myth, complete and utter nonsense, that is not how genetics work. having no notable genetic defects even after several subsequent incestuous generations is not special, its normal. the ONLY thing that occurs after multiple incestuous generations is that the statistical rate of passive alleles increases slightly. it only becomes statistically significant after 6 subsequent generations of nonstop incest. and passive alleles aren't somehow mutations or somesuch nonsense. for example, being colorblind is a passive allele so if the lineage had colorblindness, after several generations of incest it will become more and more likely to be a trait shared across that lineage. even still it would take something like 20 nonstop generations before exceeding a 50/50 chance, and around 36 before its generally seen in all offspring. which is a very long time, its been about 50 generations since the fall of the Roman empire. we are talking more than 1000 years of incest before everyone gets a passive allele like colorblindness. the only real issues come from large populations all being genetically close, making viruses have a much easier time sweeping through populations for instance. that being said however, all of humanity is effectively an incestuous race. mitochondrial DNA is inherited matrilineally from mother to children and is an exact copy of that DNA, meaning that set will be the same no matter how many generations. from this we know for a fact that at one point humanity almost went extinct, because there are only 5 sets of mitochondrial DNA in our species, we can see in many other species several hundred sets of mitochondrial DNA. that means that at some point humanity was down to only 5 women, and we all literally descend from those 5. low key you have a 1/5 chance no matter who you bang, that your mitochondrial DNA is identical. meaning some level of incest tracing the line back far enough. which is why humans are all roughly the same height and muscle mass, when dogs for example come in all shapes and sizes.

so basically what im trying to say, is that the company or whatever wanting the MC in this game because they have no issues incestuously breeding, is stupid nonsense based on an old wives tale made up to dissuade siblings from fucking, with no basis at all in scientific fact. if you want them to still be genetically special, what you can do is say something like their lineage has no passive alleles, no never any chance of colorblindness for example no matter how many generations, effectively perfect genes through dumb luck, meaning many more positives to incestuous breeding to keep the gene pool free of negative traits from bloodlines with passive alleles. much more scientific basis with that notion, that what is in game currently.

sorry, turned into a rant there. im just sick of seeing these anti-scientific lies propagated in my damn porn games lol.

The Hapsburg dynasty would like a word with you lmao but there is some actual scientific fact mixed in there. Inbreeding CAN and IS often a vector for bringing bad genetic traits to the forefront less so in people with better genes.
Are we an incestuous species? Yes! Some people have taken genetic damage over time more than others and do pass those flaws on. The MC's family being exceptional isn't quite as far fetched as you might think.
Look up factors that can cause genetic damage for more info.

 

[RealLegacyUser]

The Hapsburg dynasty would like a word with you lmao but there is some actual scientific fact mixed in there. Inbreeding CAN and IS often a vector for bringing bad genetic traits to the forefront less so in people with better genes.
Are we an incestuous species? Yes! Some people have taken genetic damage over time more than others and do pass those flaws on. The MC's family being exceptional isn't quite as far fetched as you might think.
Look up factors that can cause genetic damage for more info.

Well, Apocalypse is about to bring on the MC dynasty here when the main story hits. Everyone damn near is his offspring. LOL

 

[Lonesome Toad]

Well, Apocalypse is about to bring on the MC dynasty here when the main story hits. Everyone damn near is his offspring. LOL

Are you gonna go into more detail on some of the other genetic freaks? Like Reiko and her snek tongue? I'm assuming she's another genetic experiment from your pseudo "Umbrella" Corp (I recognize that song from the OG movie over 20 years ago you sneaky guy lmao).

 

[RealLegacyUser]

Are you gonna go into more detail on some of the other genetic freaks? Like Reiko and her snek tongue? I'm assuming she's another genetic experiment from your pseudo "Umbrella" Corp (I recognize that song from the OG movie over 20 years ago you sneaky guy lmao).

Yes. Those are explored more in depth in the LMA stories. The snek tongue included. She is and I thought the music was appropriate. LOL has it been that long?! Fek I'm getting old!

 

[RealLegacyUser]

Reiko, Sam, Bethany, and others get more play time.

 

[Lonesome Toad]

Yes. Those are explored more in depth in the LMA stories. The snek tongue included. She is and I thought the music was appropriate. LOL has it been that long?! Fek I'm getting old!

Same bro...same... On a side note I'm sorry my brain is blanking what does the LMA stand for again?

 

[DaddyDegen]

So Dev never got his substar activated? He just gets money on discord now right? That's a shame.

 

[BeowulfKnight]

Agreed, especially since this is such an amazing game.

 

[Shiva]

It's been a while since I commented here but feel with the insanity going on I would ask the truly important question.

When do we get Chocolate Chip Cookie Content. I asked this some time ago and some weird person said they had the assets to include it. Sadly, this person has never proven that they could. Hmm, I wonder if that was a dream or REAL.

Anyways, looking forward to the updates and seeing the LEGACY it creates.

I do wish I could remember the USER name of that person so I could go back and demand request they give us that kind of content. Oh well, I guess that it isn't really my #1 priority.

Just a thought.

P.S. as always I blame the voices in my head for this post.

 

[Here4thefap]

Ah, it feels good to be back among the sinners And one of the major reasons is this game, my man. Hope all is well with you, and that development is going steadily

 

[NeoEros]

damn finally back in the game!!! 35 comments is such a pain in the ass. From Discord it seems we need to wait until the third installment of LMA before v0.38 releases

 

[User_62717]

Weird game but for some reason I love it. Maybe the lolis?

 

[trumpet67]

damn finally back in the game!!! 35 comments is such a pain in the ass. From Discord it seems we need to wait until the third installment of LMA before v0.38 releases

35 comments can be such a sharp pain you can say

 

[xxZeroFun]

Yeah I can see the game again. but the category sinner or restricted is that forever gone?

 

[NeoEros]

Yeah I can see the game again. but the category sinner or restricted is that forever gone?

Seems so. I miss having a full section of restricted games so I don't have to scroll through all the games in the latest updates

 

[zxtacy]

Another game that I've played multiple times, can't get enough. Looking forward to future updates. Great work Devs.

 

[Damascin]

An interesting, crazy, exciting work! I really look forward to continuing the plot!

 

[RealLegacyUser]

Same bro...same... On a side note I'm sorry my brain is blanking what does the LMA stand for again?

Liberty Memorial Academy. The current additional content in Apocalypse. It's got one more release before going to VIPs then free after that.