discussion Burned - Tagging Eden's Trans content Poll and Discussion

[Mr. Tearson]

Sorry, folks. Some of you may have hatred towards this subject. But regardless, please keep it civil. That means NO arguing and NO name calling. I don't care rather I agree or disagree with anyone here, nor am I purposely ignoring anyone here(I'm always watching). I have a belief of "To each their own" and keep it at that. However, I'm not allowed to interfere unless someone's breaking the rules.

And remember, insults to users are not allowed. You can state your opinion and have a civil talk about it but the moment you think you disagree and feel like changing one's mind, please, leave. Shit will get toxic fast and that'd require us to close the thread or clean up comments.

 

[Deaufosse]

How about a third option? More a opinion based one? I don't think adding JUST the two would sum it up. I feel like there should be more added.

I think it should have a gay tag because it's a man going after a woman with a penis. Especially if giving a blowjob and having sex with each other. And I'm talking visual, nothing IRL personal thing. But if what the Mods say is true, they go by visual, why wouldn't they add the tag in there? (I'm not placing my vote just yet, I really want to try and see things your way and understand everything)

In the simplest terms, avoiding the nitty gritty of what anyone believes, I think it comes down to this: Why doesn't the trans/futa tag alone suffice? Even if you think getting with a trans girl is 1000% gay, then why isn't that naturally covered in the tag? Does the Big tits tag also need a big nipple tag, or is that just assumed? Better yet, what counts trans/futa content without the gay tag? Just the existence of a trans character in a game, not being sexualized?

The trans/futa tag teels you exactly what you're going to get from the game (trans people, who'd have thought?) Demanding the gay tag is an attempt to subject people to your meaningless anti-trans virtue signalling. It's embarassing.

100%. Dying on the gay tag hill is just their way of letting you know they think trans women are men. (in a totally non-political way, mind you). The trans tag should suffice by itself.

 

[Skully_Tophat_Man420]

The argument is already going. I like that you're trying to keep it civil, though. It is possible to have these kinds of discussions without getting upset and calling ppl names etc.

But that's the thing, though. I would not be interested if the gay tag was there. It's not the same. Even if you see it as such. Most ppl who are rly into gay or trans content, even ppl like me who are just a little curious. See distinct differences.

Maybe add a disclaimer in the OP. Like most devs do wit NTR stuff. That the trans content consist of male and trans-girl with a penis. If anything. I would think it's a little over the top. But if that help ppl who views it like that. Sure why not.

Honestly, I'd like to keep it civil and respectful as best I can.

I think the gay tag being with Futa/Trans tag would give one the idea of what it'd be. Especially since the Developer already explained it in the thread. I don't think these tags are made to be politically correct or incorrect but more as a guidance to help one figure out what is what. To me, that's like adding sci-fi and zombies. I like my zombies to be made from a virus, not a parasite. If that makes sense?
Or if I enjoy futa, I wouldn't want the MC to have sex with the Futa but with the women. That gay tag, I feel like it'd just help to know this in a way. Not every games will tell you the full tags and I've been disappointed several times.

I wouldn't be against the disclaimer idea, either. Wish more people would use this, actually.

In the simplest terms, avoiding the nitty gritty of what anyone believes, I think it comes down to this: Why doesn't the trans/futa tag alone suffice? Even if you think getting with a trans girl is 1000% gay, then why isn't that naturally covered in the tag? Does the Big tits tag also need a big nipple tag, or is that just assumed? Better yet, what counts trans/futa content without the gay tag? Just the existence of a trans character in a game, not being sexualized?

Ew... big tits. Lmao
But yeah, I kind of explained it a bit above. I wouldn't mind Futa if the Futa were to help MC have sex with the girls. Even in a three way. But it kind of turns me off when MC get with the Futa, even giving him a BJ. Rather it's gay or not, I feel like it helps guide people in what it includes.

I mean, even my Trans friend, who actually wants to have a sex change agree that it seems gay. And she's actually into that type of stuff.

 

[SeveredRealms]

It does now. Any other game found to have this type of content will get the tag when its reported. We can not chase every single game down since most of the staff do not touch these types of games unless its avoidable. So report them and we will review them and tag them correctly. This goes for all games that may be tagged wrong or missing tags. Hit that report button.

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[Seman1]

It does now. Any other game found to have this type of content will get the tag when its reported. We can not chase every single game down since most of the staff do not touch these types of games unless its avoidable. So report them and we will review them and tag them correctly. This goes for all games that may be tagged wrong or missing tags. Hit that report button.

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nice culture war bullshit dude, you're making the world based one gay tag at a time.

 

[ThaBoooBThaBoooB's icon]

Yeah, that characters blowing a dog, but that dog is also voiced by Joe Rogan. You can't jerk off to that. You can laugh, though.

Am I suppose to take that as a challange? ;P

 

[ThaBoooBThaBoooB's icon]

It does now. Any other game found to have this type of content will get the tag when its reported. We can not chase every single game down since most of the staff do not touch these types of games unless its avoidable. So report them and we will review them and tag them correctly. This goes for all games that may be tagged wrong or missing tags. Hit that report button.

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It's your forum your rules.. Guess my list of games I'm interested in just got shorter.
You're hurting the devs more than the user by doing this, though.

But, like I said. It's your playhouse. Just think that you are making a big mistake.

 

[5pVtFrBR#j2q#%]

If someone has a feminine female face, tits, a female looking butt, acts and behaves like a female, adding the gay tag is just going to make it more difficult for gay people to find what they want. And what they want is not pretty transgirl teenagers. Adding a gay tag is not only incorrect, but will frustrate users actually looking for gay games.

I think this sums up my thoughts very well as well. Well said.

 

[SeveredRealms]

It's your forum your rules.. Guess my list of games I'm interested in just got shorter.
You're hurting the devs more than the user by doing this, though.

But, like I said. It's your playhouse. Just think that you are making a big mistake.

Do you like coming across questionable content out of the blue that you do not like? There is nothing worse than enjoying a game then having something thrown in your face. Had it happen to many times when I play something with content devs hide because they know some people wont like it and they want to draw as many in as they can... Then shit like this happens and threads blow up with people arguing. I do not care what content is in a game everyone had fetishes they like and dislike. To each their own but being upfront at the start and tagging their game correctly is a huge plus during the search to find games you like or want to avoid. Another huge help is planned/future content... Posting that can also work in favor or against a game but at least the user will know what they are in for.

 

[Augustus]

Well, that's just it. A male is giving a BLOWJOB. I'm sorry, I'm trying really hard. Is a man giving a dildo a blowjob not considered gay anymore?

A man giving a dildo a blowjob seems weird to me, but not gay. It's a dude playing with a sex toy, that is neither straight nor gay. Is man wanking gay? I mean, he is touching a penis in a sexual way**? According to my logic, the answer is no, because he is masturbating, not having sex with another man. It is just a much clearer picture if you go by "who has sex with whom" rather than "who touched which bodypart in what way".

 

[Thorbjorn]

Sexuality is a spectrum though isn't it. Having a male characer recieve a blow job or fuck someone with a dick is less gay than that same character giving the blowjob or being fucked. It's still a bit gay but not full gay, just like all futa content. I think the gay tag should be reserved for full gay content, as in two cis males going at it. Especialy because some people are looking for that and others are specificallty trying to avoid only that. Either that or your going to need a new cis-gay tag.

 

[ThaBoooBThaBoooB's icon]

Do you like coming across questionable content out of the blue that you do not like? There is nothing worse than enjoying a game then having something thrown in your face. Had it happen to many times when I play something with content devs hide because they know some people wont like it and they want to draw as many in as they can... Then shit like this happens and threads blow up with people arguing. I do not care what content is in a game everyone had fetishes they like and dislike. To each their own but being upfront at the start and tagging their game correctly is a huge plus during the search to find games you like or want to avoid. Another huge help is planned/future content... Posting that can also work in favor or against a game but at least the user will know what they are in for.

I agree with you on that point. But it also works in reverse.
No, I don't like it when I suddenly see stuff I'm not into. Especially when it's not even hinted at in the story and suddenly in your face.
Usually I just click past it and try to pretend it did not happen. But, I get that a lot of ppl can't do that.

But my self and a lot of others don't want gay content at all, but don't mind trans. And ignore the game if the gay tag i there. Same with gay ppl who might not want trans but want gay stuff in their games.
If there is a trans tag, and a trans-girl/woman in the game. You should be aware that the possibilities for penis user vs penis user action (Even if one or both of them are women) is there.
If you see the gay tag most ppl would assume that it's pure male on pure male. Because that's what gay is.

I understand it's a wonky rope to walk on, keeping everyone happy. But if this has to be so controversial. Then telling the devs and thread owners to add a disclaimer. Like most do with NTR stuff, would be a better solution. Or adding a separate tag for it. Grouping them together when they are very different kink/fetishes for a lot of ppl, will just add to the confusion and frustration.

 

[Deaufosse]

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[ThaBoooBThaBoooB's icon]

Also, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. But it feels's like you are catering a HBTQ+ kink/fetish. To straight ppl.

 

[bulliedhealer]

If it's got a dick or previously had a dick fucking something else that has a dick or previously had a dick, that's gay. If it magically grew a dick when it never had one before and started fucking girls, that's an abomination. I also find the reverse to be true as well.

Generally I stay away from futa/trans/dickgirl tags by default anyways, unless it is marked as avoidable. But I'd like it to be marked gay anyways. Just so we all know the exact type of interaction occurring, because honestly the better the tagging, the easier it is to find the appropriate content for those who DO like certain types of interactions within this type of content.

 

[TheVampirate]

I've always considered Trans and Futa to be separate things, too, at least in the imaginary art world. In my mind, Futas are Cis, if that makes any fucking sense at all. Seems like the game in this discussion tries to do it in an actual true-to-life kind of way, which is cool. Either way I wouldn't say it's fair to label it "gay" but I haven't actually played so don't mind me

Futa is a real weird tag tbh... usually it involves big tits, big dick and a pussy. I wouldn't put it in with "gay" but i'd call it gay, Trans is a little different but If 2 biologic males are fucking it's kinda gay but I don't think its benifitial to give it the "gay" tag. Gay tag should really only be used for games where you are having sex with men trans tag covers the in-between well enough.

 

[Skully_Tophat_Man420]

A man giving a dildo a blowjob seems weird to me, but not gay. It's a dude playing with a sex toy, that is neither straight nor gay. Is man wanking gay? I mean, he is touching a penis in a sexual way**? According to my logic, the answer is no, because he is masturbating, not having sex with another man. It is just a much clearer picture if you go by "who has sex with whom" rather than "who touched which bodypart in what way".

Masturbation is completely different. I mean, if nothing else, selfcest. Lol.
But I'm not in denial enough to think touching even a dildo isn't gay for sexual pleasure.

The point being, most people believe a man touching anything with a dick is considered gay. Much like women touching anything with a pussy is considered lesbian.

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Man, at least put that shit in a spoiler. You trying to make people hate you?

 

[Deaufosse]

Futa is a real weird tag tbh... usually it involves big tits, big dick and a pussy. I wouldn't put it in with "gay" but i'd call it gay, Trans is a little different but If 2 biologic males are fucking it's kinda gay but I don't think its benifitial to give it the "gay" tag. Gay tag should really only be used for games where you are having sex with men trans tag covers the in-between well enough.

Just realized it reeeeeally undercuts my argument that I have an entire monologue in Burned on why Futa porn is gay.

 

[Mr. Tearson]

This thread is being locked. Obviously no one is able to stay civil enough. Lucky, it isn't being deleted with how some of you guys like to act. Just place your votes. smh

Edit: I forgot, lock the thread and it won't allow votes. But either way, this subject is closed. ALL Moderators see this as getting out of hands.