discussion Is AI CGI bringing us too much heat and threatening our favorite mediums?

[User_63980]

I think in it's current form, its abilities are perceived to be much more than they actually are. But most of the images and text it generates are pretty soulless. You're pretty much always going to want the real thing simply because there is real intent behind it.

 

[User_106373]

It is all part of the creative arts industry and has its place just like any other art form. I just find a lot of CGI to be over the top and not my thing always. Same in AI. Its fine, but other forms are better/ just as good.

Yeah, the very explicate and risky porn related stuff is already very much watched and regulated. Especially that very dark fetish stuff.

 

[TsavoriteKitsune]

It's all pixels, why is everyone panicking? An AI image of a 10 yo getting spit-roasted involves exactly 0 real people so no one is being hurt.
We as a species need to chill.

 

[bulliedhealer]

It's all pixels, why is everyone panicking? An AI image of a 10 yo getting spit-roasted involves exactly 0 real people so no one is being hurt.
We as a species need to chill.

You are 100% right. If it's not real, why do people even care? I mean fuck, I don't care what people do in the privacy of their homes, generally speaking.

I mean, if they're making explosives or doing something harmful to others I care, but other than that I do not give a fuck.

 

[iframe]

Doesn't matter. Politicians and activist will always find fault with this community instead of tackling the real societal issues.

 

[Thcar]

This is an area that whether it will be banned or not, will have a massive black market presence I think, much like what we are doing here already, almost

 

[lewddewd]

Doesn't matter. Politicians and activist will always find fault with this community instead of tackling the real societal issues.

My man, where is your profile avatar GIF from?

 

[Republican Bear]

The more easy A.I gets to be used I'd say yes, but the bigger problem is certain images being based on real life illegal porn.

That's what brought certain government agencies to crack down on it. It's the fault of how A.I needs input and foolish users.

 

[User_59941]

I doubt it will affect these sorts of games. If anything it will probably make it easier for small devs to do more.

 

[LUVGAMZ23]

First of all, there's what's legal and what's logical. The two rarely meet.

Second, AI CG is essentially in the "dial up internet" phase of its lifespan. Compare 90s internet to 20s internet. In 30 years, everything will be photorealistic and as close to flawless as is the internet connection (in some areas).

Third and final, you cannot regulate CG in practice if done properly. I'm a dumb dumb. I can barely turn my computer on. But even I can think of these steps:
1-Buy the AI CG program.
2-Install it on a computer with no internet access via USB... or... one time only access to the internet, then actually have a friend remove the hardware that allows connection.
3-Make all the AI CG you want on the permanently offline computer. (And by that I mean cute G rated puppies, your honour)

To be fair, I have no fucking clue about the details, but I think the above is foolproof UNLESS every single AI CG program is online only.

I'm sure your ideas are way better than mine... but that's what I came up with.

 

[titosixtynine]

First of all, there's what's legal and what's logical. The two rarely meet.

Second, AI CG is essentially in the "dial up internet" phase of its lifespan. Compare 90s internet to 20s internet. In 30 years, everything will be photorealistic and as close to flawless as is the internet connection (in some areas).

Third and final, you cannot regulate CG in practice if done properly. I'm a dumb dumb. I can barely turn my computer on. But even I can think of these steps:
1-Buy the AI CG program.
2-Install it on a computer with no internet access via USB... or... one time only access to the internet, then actually have a friend remove the hardware that allows connection.
3-Make all the AI CG you want on the permanently offline computer. (And by that I mean cute G rated puppies, your honour)

To be fair, I have no fucking clue about the details, but I think the above is foolproof UNLESS every single AI CG program is online only.

I'm sure your ideas are way better than mine... but that's what I came up with.

I pretty much agree with what's stated here. Certain forms of art can be outlawed/banned, but people are people and we create. The genie is already out of the bottle in this case and the mentality of the community is very much aligned with anti-censorship so it's doubtful things will ever go backwards. That doesn't mean I think people will become more open to or tolerant of the types of art that's being produced (well... possibly... a good way to get lots of people to read a book is to ban it, right?). It just seems like without extreme authoritarian measures, so many people have the tools that it's long past the point of being reigned in.

Although, I do think that (as stated in the thread title), the more spotlight that gets shined on the AI/CGI art community (of the type we are all here for), the more hoops we'll have to jump through to access content. It has already happened without laws going onto the books.

 

[pervertedteaparty]

First of all, there's what's legal and what's logical. The two rarely meet.

Second, AI CG is essentially in the "dial up internet" phase of its lifespan. Compare 90s internet to 20s internet. In 30 years, everything will be photorealistic and as close to flawless as is the internet connection (in some areas).

Third and final, you cannot regulate CG in practice if done properly. I'm a dumb dumb. I can barely turn my computer on. But even I can think of these steps:
1-Buy the AI CG program.
2-Install it on a computer with no internet access via USB... or... one time only access to the internet, then actually have a friend remove the hardware that allows connection.
3-Make all the AI CG you want on the permanently offline computer. (And by that I mean cute G rated puppies, your honour)

To be fair, I have no fucking clue about the details, but I think the above is foolproof UNLESS every single AI CG program is online only.

I'm sure your ideas are way better than mine... but that's what I came up with.

I agree with what you're saying.
AI is an exciting tool for many and its use will increase before it decreases. I don't know if I should call this stage its infancy still, I'm not sure what other word I should use.
But the point is that it's new tech and everybody is still trying to figure out what can be done with it. So expect to see even more of it until the world is absolutely flooded with it. Only when some kind of 'standard' is applied (of quality or whatever) will its use be reduced.
Like an industry standard. Because right now there is no industry standard with which to test people with.

Not sure if I'm making sense

 

[LUVGAMZ23]

I agree with what you're saying.
AI is an exciting tool for many and its use will increase before it decreases. I don't know if I should call this stage its infancy still, I'm not sure what other word I should use.
But the point is that it's new tech and everybody is still trying to figure out what can be done with it. So expect to see even more of it until the world is absolutely flooded with it. Only when some kind of 'standard' is applied (of quality or whatever) will its use be reduced.
Like an industry standard. Because right now there is no industry standard with which to test people with.

Not sure if I'm making sense

Absolutely. What I don't know (I don't think many people do) is where the industry standard will lie, especially in regards to regulation. To pick extremes:

-Basically no regulation like paper.
-Maximum regulation like medicine.

Obviously, it'll be in the middle. But WHERE in middle... couldn't begin to tell ya... and... I assume... not many can.

 

[SegmentCoalescing]

Since it's all out there any way, there's nothing they can do about it. However, video generation in high quality will regulate itself as only datacenters/corporations will be able to run it with good results.. I'd love to be wrong.

 

[pervertedteaparty]

Absolutely. What I don't know (I don't think many people do) is where the industry standard will lie, especially in regards to regulation. To pick extremes:

-Basically no regulation like paper.
-Maximum regulation like medicine.

Obviously, it'll be in the middle. But WHERE in middle... couldn't begin to tell ya... and... I assume... not many can.

Yea, and it's the fear that takes the lead in most of the articles I've seen about AI.
Plastering faces of celebrities on porn starts is just juvenile and kind of funny, but I can see how that might be abused in other ways.

On the other hand, how AI (not just the art-side) will be used in entertainment and gaming is something I really look forward to. Games with 'randomly-generated' maps take on a whole new meaning. Or "AI-director", like in Left 4 Dead you have an AI Director that, depending how you're playing, will change the zombies/waves or even item spawns.
You could create custom experiences or have a DungeonMaster like experience with AI, it's very exciting.

 

[LUVGAMZ23]

Yea, and it's the fear that takes the lead in most of the articles I've seen about AI.
Plastering faces of celebrities on porn starts is just juvenile and kind of funny, but I can see how that might be abused in other ways.

On the other hand, how AI (not just the art-side) will be used in entertainment and gaming is something I really look forward to. Games with 'randomly-generated' maps take on a whole new meaning. Or "AI-director", like in Left 4 Dead you have an AI Director that, depending how you're playing, will change the zombies/waves or even item spawns.
You could create custom experiences or have a DungeonMaster like experience with AI, it's very exciting.

Exactly. Once perfected (a WAYS down the road), I see this as a "real life budget holodeck":

PROMPT = Computer AI, make a DnD game, 3.5 rules, [input homebrews], adapt the earlier editions of the Giants / Drow / Queen modules. Vary the experience by 25% but Players will be the villains.
REPLY = Game will be complete in 2.53 weeks. Would you like to go back to Lewdcorner in the meanwhile?
PROMPT = Yes... Yes I would.

 

[aloysious]

99% of the time I cringe when looking at AI images.

 

[titosixtynine]

Exactly. Once perfected (a WAYS down the road), I see this as a "real life budget holodeck":

PROMPT = Computer AI, make a DnD game, 3.5 rules, [input homebrews], adapt the earlier editions of the Giants / Drow / Queen modules. Vary the experience by 25% but Players will be the villains.
REPLY = Game will be complete in 2.53 weeks. Would you like to go back to Lewdcorner in the meanwhile?
PROMPT = Yes... Yes I would.

Yep. There seems to be a lot of pull in that direction towards that "holodeck"-like experience. I know that's what I'm hoping we will get out of this. People want escapism and entertainment. People want to live out their fantasies (in healthy ways).

 

[patinhas]

The more easy A.I gets to be used I'd say yes, but the bigger problem is certain images being based on real life illegal porn.

That's what brought certain government agencies to crack down on it. It's the fault of how A.I needs input and foolish users.

This is a complete red herring. I'm almost certain that no significant number of images were created using "real life illegal porn". Why do I know it? Because most probably, due to how the technology works, these images would be of less quality than those generated without these inputs, because almost certainly "illegal porn" will be sparse and badly tagged, and therefore unusable for quality training to create AI models.

You don't need "illegal porn" to create images that mimic "illegal porn", the same way you don't need to see actual sex acts to create a porn text depicting such acts. People forget that most of the models we use are Text-To-Image, and it is just enough to create good enough text to obtain good enough images. Can one use "image-to-image"? Sure, but the variability allowed by such techniques is much less, so you wouldn't use it to generate new original content.

 

[MTelly]

The more easy A.I gets to be used I'd say yes, but the bigger problem is certain images being based on real life illegal porn.

That's the point. As long as no real people are represented there should be no problem (for the time being).

All of the current arrest reports are based on individuals using images of real people to transform them into what we all know.