discussion Abandoned VN Ren'Py DAZ SUCH A SHARP PAIN [V0.11.7R] [KETZAL]

[Nicest_Incest]

Regarding Eve, her and Nicole have been as thick as thieves since they were kids. Whatever shitty thing Nicole did to Cassey at that party to make her want to kill herself, I'm sure Eve was part of it. And they apparently set it up so the MC would also seem complicit, thus causing him to feel somewhat responsible for Cassey later on. It may also be that once the MC went "off the reservation" and started comforting Cassey, it could have been Eve who tipped off Cassey's dad (who may also be MC's dad) to have him come down and beat the MC badly enough to put him in the hospital. It is very possible with human nature for guilt to manifest as resentment and misplaced anger, and that may be at the root of Eve's unreasoning rage and hatred toward the MC 25 years later.

Yup, that's still the ongoing mystery. A thought that crossed my mind is the MC knocked up Eve with Tiffany 8 years ago (assuming Leana's age was set to 9) and left while she was still pregnant (also a good reason to be pissed), but if they haven't spoken in 25 years that doesn't fit the timeline. Your scenario is more likely, and I guess we'll find out eventually.

 

[Deleted member 9689]

Cassey's dad (who may also be MC's dad)

That's interesting, and makes it even more incestious, but... what's your reasoning for this? does the game give any kind of hint for this?

 

[Deleted member 9689]

Tiffany 8 years ago (assuming Leana's age was set to 9)

I believe if you set Leana's age to 9, that Tifanny is 7 (I choose minimum ages, and I'm pretty sure Tifanny is 7 in my games)

 

[Nastastic]

That's interesting, and makes it even more incestious, but... what's your reasoning for this? does the game give any kind of hint for this?

Spoiler

In one of the bonus scenes in the hospital after the beating 25 years ago, the MC can eavesdrop on a conversation between Macy and Leana (Cassey's mother, not Nicole's daughter) in which Leana talks about Macy sleeping with her husband.

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In another flashback which takes place at a younger age, the MC can listen in on an argument between the man he thought was his father (and who is Macy's father) deciding to dump Macy because she cheated on him and because the MC is not his son.

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[Deleted member 9689]

In one of the bonus scenes (I believe in the hospital after the beating 25 years ago) the MC can eavesdrop on a conversation between Macy and Leana (Cassey's mother, not Nicole's daughter) in which Leana talks about Macy sleeping with her husband. In another flashback which takes place at a younger age, the MC can listen in on an argument between the man he thought was his father (and who is Macy's father) deciding to dump Macy because the MC is not his son If I recall correctly he even calls her lover "musclebound".

True true, I never thought much of that hospital conversation, and also reasoned that Leana's husband knew Macy through the friendship of Nicole and MC - but that doesn't have to be. and I also completely forgot that the male figure was not MC's real dad. (that's the problem with always having to restart, I skip through the more boring parts, and kinda forget these more substantial plotpoints).
However, neither MC, Cassey or Nicole is aware of this fact. and what about Macy, does she know? she know about Cassey (she has a low opinion of her), but she has never hinted that Cassey mighht be MC's half sister

 

[Myuhinny]

only 2?

Reread what you quoted they're talking about present time not the whole game so far.

 

[Deleted member 9689]

Reread what you quoted they're talking about present time not the whole game so far.

I know, in the present time, MC has fucked Leana, Rebecca, Nicole and Alice. And I believe you can get all those four in one playthrough.
if it's the whole game it would also include Sophie, Macy, andCassey.

 

[whiteD_4_black_hoes]

I gotta admit, that was also going through my mind. I also had imagined Lisa a biiiit younger. She's hot, but I was hoping for a bit like a submissive ditz like her mom is.



only 2? Leana, Nicole, Rebeca and Alice makes four. and with the way the storyline is developing he might add Cassey, Hailley, Luna, Lisa, Tifanny and Eve to that mix (and Clem who came kinda out of the blue).

well, i just got 2 the part last night that i showed in my post...so that's what i meant; up to that point, he's only boned 2 girls. so i figured more are coming, just seems like its taking a really long time to get there

I know, in the present time, MC has fucked Leana, Rebecca, Nicole and Alice. And I believe you can get all those four in one playthrough.
if it's the whole game it would also include Sophie, Macy, andCassey.

UPDATE...ok, so i just finished playing all the way thru of the version that's offered on this site, which is v0.6.32, correct? so b/c i wanted to have Lisa in the game, i didn't choose the domination path; but even when i went back n did, all MC gets from her is a bj in the office...so where/when does he fuck her? n when i said "dicked", i meant just that; dick in the pussy...all MC has done with Leana is oral, no fucking. n i don't think i did, but are there scenes i somehow missed by not making the right choices?

 

[marcomemmey]

well, i just got 2 the part last night that i showed in my post...so that's what i meant; up to that point, he's only boned 2 girls. so i figured more are coming, just seems like its taking a really long time to get there

UPDATE...ok, so i just finished playing all the way thru of the version that's offered on this site, which is v0.6.32, correct? so b/c i wanted to have Lisa in the game, i didn't choose the domination path; but even when i went back n did, all MC gets from her is a bj in the office...so where/when does he fuck her? n when i said "dicked", i meant just that; dick in the pussy...all MC has done with Leana is oral, no fucking. n i don't think i did, but are there scenes i somehow missed by not making the right choices?

If you choose domination path, you get to bone Rebecca. And yes, if you do the right choices you also bone Leana.

 

[whiteD_4_black_hoes]

If you choose domination path, you get to bone Rebecca. And yes, if you do the right choices you also bone Leana.

n this is where a watkthrough is needed...i feel pretty confident i made all the right choices with Leana; can u please refer me to the choice/scene immediately preceding where they have sex?
OK...i think i found it, n have NO idea why i wouldn't have made this choice 1st time thru (maybe i was too tired, or fingers didn't work the way they were supposed to, n accidentally clicked on the wrong choice?)

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n yeah, that domination scene with Rebecca is pretty fucking hot...but thought we couldn't get Lisa choosing that path. yet a couple choices doing that path offer corruption points for Lisa, n dialogue obviously indicates MC is gonna see more of her again, n wind up either having her help him with Rebecca, and/or taking her for himself. so why does the walkthrough indicate she's not an option choosing the domination route?

so THAT was something...talk about goodamned fucking hawt as fuck, especially when he imagines her knocked up; @ketzal will we still get Lisa content choosing domination path? n will update show these other relationship points that aren't in the options menu now, like fear, etc? (i remember there being at least a couple/few others, just cant remember them atm)

 

[Nicest_Incest]

That's interesting, and makes it even more incestious, but... what's your reasoning for this? does the game give any kind of hint for this?

Actually the MC's dad

Spoiler: Spolier Alert

is also his grandpa/Macy's dad, so even more incestuous still (revealed in a new scene when Macy punched her son's V-card added in the last update with the right choices).

Pretty sure Cassey's dad had/has no blood relation to the MC.

 

[whiteD_4_black_hoes]

Actually the MC's dad

Spoiler: Spolier Alert

is also his grandpa/Macy's dad, so even more incestuous still (revealed in a new scene when Macy punched her son's V-card added in the last update with the right choices).

Pretty sure Cassey's dad had/has no blood relation to the MC.

pretty sure i've read everything about this going back 5 pages, got all the scenes that have been referenced, n i'm still confused n foggy on this. i do remember playing it that something bugged me in the flashback scene when his parents are arguing. but even if he is Macy's dad (i never picked up on that/got that impression), but didn't father the MC with her, then they're still blood related...MC is Macy's dad's half-grandson. but i don't see how this affects Cassey at all, unless he left Macy n married her mom, Leana? n i definitely don't remember there being any reference to that; thought he left Macy for Sophie

 

[marcomemmey]

pretty sure i've read everything about this going back 5 pages, got all the scenes that have been referenced, n i'm still confused n foggy on this. i do remember playing it that something bugged me in the flashback scene when his parents are arguing. but even if he is Macy's dad (i never picked up on that/got that impression), but didn't father the MC with her, then they're still blood related...MC is Macy's dad's half-grandson. but i don't see how this affects Cassey at all, unless he left Macy n married her mom, Leana? n i definitely don't remember there being any reference to that; thought he left Macy for Sophie

MC's bio dad is Cassey's father, the buff guy who kicks his ass in the flashback, as seen in the hospital optional scene between Macy and Leana. And the "dad" is indeed Macy's father, implied when she says "my father also left me", and basically confirmed on the MACY side story.

 

[CrapFace]

@ketzal I noticed a problem with the latest version if you start a playthrough from scratch. The character info screen shows duplicate entries because the current version does a complete categories init with all characters in update.rpy. And if you then start from the beginning, all encountered characters get added again.

 

[User_12]

In the present : Nicole, Rebecca, Leana, Alice

@ketzal I noticed a problem with the latest version if you start a playthrough from scratch. The character info screen shows duplicate entries because the current version does a complete categories init with all characters in update.rpy. And if you then start from the beginning, all encountered characters get added again.

Thanks for reporting me this bug. We're working to fix that.

 

[whiteD_4_black_hoes]

MC's bio dad is Cassey's father, the buff guy who kicks his ass in the flashback, as seen in the hospital optional scene between Macy and Leana. And the "dad" is indeed Macy's father, implied when she says "my father also left me", and basically confirmed on the MACY side story.

SPOILER ALERT
oohh, ok...see, that makes more sense now. i was under the impression that other ppl were saying MC's dad n Macy's dad were the same person; but now i understand, n what i originally thought, that they're 2 separate ppl. n now that line in the hospital flashback scene with Macy n Leana arguing makes a lot more sense, when Leana tells Macy she doesn't care if she sleeps with her husband.

which also connects with the flashback scene where Macy n her dad-husband are arguing, n he's angry at her for cheating on him with a younger, better looking guy, n saying the MC isn't his kid, which makes the MC n Cassey half-siblings. n if the MC noticed both arguments, why isn't he able to put this together, n realize Cassey is his half-sister? would he have still continued to date, n eventually marry, her n have kids with her?

then that's why Cassey takes Hailey with her to France, b/c she had Clem (weird name for a girl btw) track down MC's mystery sister, which is where Macy went to have the kid after MC knocked her up. so for me, i guess the only thing i still have a question about is why Nicole named her daughter after Cassey's mom? since she picked on her when they were younger, does she feel remorse for Cassey after realizing she was bullying her while her mom had cancer, n is her attempt/way of trying to make amends with, n apologize to, Cassey?

n just thought of something else i don't get...if MC n Clem were that close as friends when they were younger, why did he cut off all contact with her after the night when he stopped Cassey from committing suicide? she was obviously ready to give him her virginity on that night, so why not stay friends n get some, even though he was dating Cassey?

 

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[marcomemmey]

SPOILER ALERT

yeah that's basically it, why Nicole also called her daughter Leana may be revealed later though.

n just thought of something else i don't get...if MC n Clem were that close as friends when they were younger, why did he cut off all contact with her after the night when he stopped Cassey from committing suicide? she was obviously ready to give him her virginity on that night, so why not stay friends n get some, even though he was dating Cassey?

You're confusing Clem and Eve. Eve is the friend, and she's the one who cut contact off. Clem is like a secretary to Cassey, but according to MC monologue during the Rebecca scene, apparently he and Cassey would fuck Clem sometimes.

 

[whiteD_4_black_hoes]

yeah that's basically it, why Nicole also called her daughter Leana may be revealed later though.

You're confusing Clem and Eve. Eve is the friend, and she's the one who cut contact off. Clem is like a secretary to Cassey, but according to MC monologue during the Rebecca scene, apparently he and Cassey would fuck Clem sometimes.

went back n replayed the EVE scene, where MC ignores Nicole's suggestion to let her arrange a meeting b/t them; n you're right, on both counts. i just remembered her yelling at him for leaving; i had forgotten the part about him saying he tried tracking her down after he saved Cassey. n yeah, i saw that dialogue about Clem while MC was fucking Rebecca also; sounds like they used her as a fuck toy...hopefully he n Cassey do the same thing with Rebecca n Lisa

guess i shoulda thought of this earlier, b4 i posted...so if Eve was so crazy in love with the MC, why did she ghost him? n why does she accuse him of not wanting to see her in 25 years when she's the one who fell off the map?

 

[User_12]

went back n replayed the EVE scene, where MC ignores Nicole's suggestion to let her arrange a meeting b/t them; n you're right, on both counts. i just remembered her yelling at him for leaving; i had forgotten the part about him saying he tried tracking her down after he saved Cassey. n yeah, i saw that dialogue about Clem while MC was fucking Rebecca also; sounds like they used her as a fuck toy...hopefully he n Cassey do the same thing with Rebecca n Lisa

guess i shoulda thought of this earlier, b4 i posted...so if Eve was so crazy in love with the MC, why did she ghost him? n why does she accuse him of not wanting to see her in 25 years when she's the one who fell off the map?

It is for all these reasons that I have cut a scene in the last update. This scene with Clem (by the way, Clem is short for Clementine), explains a lot. This scene will be in the next version.