discussion Why do we like the kinks we like? Help uncover possible connections by taking an anonymous survey

[doctorpinch]

I guess I'll give it a shot. You know, for science!

For science!!

 

[InvaderZim]

I guess I'll give it a shot. You know, for science!

Was it as good for you as it was for me?

 

[KaySwitchPrime]

Submitted the survey, this is an interesting thread.

 

[PervyGod]

Personally i think that how our kinks are formed is highly complex process. Process that gets influenced by our experiences, our genetic make-up bringing some influence, and finally culture brings it own influencing touches. There's plenty of studies done on this matter by psychiatrists, they are interesting to read when you find one publicly available.

 

[doctorpinch]

Personally i think that how our kinks are formed is highly complex process. Process that gets influenced by our experiences, our genetic make-up bringing some influence, and finally culture brings it own influencing touches. There's plenty of studies done on this matter by psychiatrists, they are interesting to read when you find one publicly available.

I agree 100 percent. I'm just trying to tease out the genetic component. Clearly, there's going to be a lot of noise from the culture/environment elements, but I'm hoping that the genetic piece can still be seen.

 

[RemoMe]

I've tossed my hat into the ring as well. Hope you get enough results!

 

[User_158771]

Done, but rather dissapointed that I didn't see any results.
Hm, now thinking about it , there aren't any results because this is just a survey not a "quiz" or something? Still interesting topic.

 

[doctorpinch]

Done, but rather dissapointed that I didn't see any results.
Hm, now thinking about it , there aren't any results because this is just a survey not a "quiz" or something? Still interesting topic.

Until your post, I had never understood why people kept saying "where are the results?" "Why don't I see any results?" when the results are posted on page 7 from the first 150 survey takers.

It hadn't occurred to me that people might think this is some kind of benchmarking quiz, where you would see your own individualized results measured against a benchmark. (Or even more unlikely, some kind of interpretive results like "you obviously had an overbearing mother and a father figure who deferred too much to the maternal figure" (Or just, "you're Jewish")

(G-d! I hope my mother never see that!)

That kind of interpretive result would, of course, be irresponsible, impossible to do, and meaningless. But we see so many of these kinds of nonsense quizzes on the internet that maybe that's what people were expecting.

Sorry if you took the survey with that expectation in mind. But I hope you'll forgive me being even slightly responsible in this regard....

 

[truetrue]

Men/women in power often have submissive kinks because they enjoy not being in power for once.

 

[truetrue]

They say that a person's kink is often a punishment they had as a child, which when you think about it means there's an entire generation who's kink is getting their cell phone taken away from them.

 

[User_162106]

Damn I wanted to see some results or something. I guess I hope my information was valuable

 

[gehrero]

You've got me. This is the thread for hypotheses, discussion, and comments. I'll start.

My basic hypothesis is that our Alpha or Omega social standing derives, like our gorilla and chimpanzee cousins, from our willingness to fight for the top rung of the hierarchy ladder. Prior to the development of pair bonding, in a world of Alpha control over breeding females, you have to ask how the omega personality survived. One possibility, of course, is that it is entirely acculturated and has no element of genetic contribution. Otherwise, the genetic contribution would have been bred out of the population, since, in theory, the Alpha male prevents any other male in the group from breeding with group females.

A second possibility is that Omega males could breed (and thereby preserve their genetic heritage) outside of the group. However, that seems unlikely since we are such highly social animals. Although other mammals do have periods (particularly post-pubescent) outside of a natal group before joining a long-term adult group, that model doesn't seem to exist among the apes.

A third possibility, and the one I favor and was hoping to find support for in the data from this survey, is that Omega males preserve their genetic heritage through cheating. That is, Alpha males believe they are in control over group breeding, but Omega males find their way to breed with available females despite Alpha control. This model finds support in chimpanzee behaviour. My question is what would that mean in the context of sexual preferences, assuming that some element of this genetic heritage persists in a world of pair bonding.

A fourth possibility is that the genes for Alpha or Omega personality ride on the X chromosome and are preserved and passed on through the female. (I actually think this is also the case, in addition to the cheating hypothesis.) I don't believe this alone could preserve Omega personality without the Omega males re-contributing their genes back to their daughters, but I don't have the math or modelling skills to model this out.

Next time, my theories about how this impacts sexual kinks.

Option 1 is virtually impossible. The first big reason is the existence of NTR as a not-turn-off in significant numbers in real life. Second reason is that there's a wealth of known "cheating" behaviour in tournament-based species, even when the females display their time of ovulation (like baboons with their red rears). Some examples: Females will purposefully lead the guarding male to a rival, to distract or tire him and use the unsupervised time to copulate with other males. Females wandering around until the guarding male gets tired or loses interest. I can't remember the species (bears?), but the craziest thing I know of are pregnant females who are able to fake ovulation signs to prevent a new alpha male from killing their infants after birth (fathered by the former alpha male).
The fact that human males can't detect ovulation in females (apparently they find the smell of ovulating women more appealing on average, but that's pretty much it) makes guarding females virtually impossible before the advent of civilization. After that, cultural norms and the possibility to put women into buildings, out of reach of other males, probably diminished "cheating", but it's still prevalent throughout human history. Finally, both the form of the penis, as well as the fact that a bigger penis is preferred, point to a "fertilization competition", where two or more males have sex with a female in a short timeframe. The form of the glans is probably (I don't know if this was ever tested empirically) effective in pulling sperm out and a bigger penis will help in reaching more foreign sperm and also pushing the own sperm in as far as possible (making it unreachable for shorter penes).

The third possibility is the one I have been proposing as the reason for NTR-like real life behaviour myself for about ten years now. I have no clear empirical data and my background is more physics/math/CompSci, but I have not found any other explanation that plausibly explains this. Also, even though all current human cultures I know of are primarily pair-bonding, "mailman's children" do exist in significant numbers, even though it is against cultural norms in almost all cultures and often carries a significant punishment.

 

[Ashwind]

Surprised that even the most controversial kinks didn't get pass the 10-20% turn off range. The only exception being scat.

 

[Ly290590]

Survey complete, I hope the my info is useful.

 

[Dintedblue]

Figured id also toss my hat in. Answered it to the best of my ability!

 

[Wh0Ar3Y0u?!]

First time I've ever seen one of these.

 

[XIa]

Fellow deviants (and non-deviants who wandered in by chance....):

Why do we like what we like? What motivates our sexual preferences? Is it childhood experiences? Is it random?

Or is there an evolutionary basis for our kinks? How does homosexuality persist over evolutionary time? It's present in most of our great ape relatives and it's being discovered in more and more mammalian species. What selection pressures lead to it being preserved? And what about NTR? Why do so many of us hate it? Loli? or MILF? More evolutionary selection pressures at play?

I am trying to test my theory about what evolutionary selection pressures lead to various kinks. My hypothesis suggests that some kinks are going to be positively correlated with some others and negatively correlated with different kinks. And another group of kinks will similarly be positively and negatively correlated with other kinks and factors.

Help out a fellow pervert (that's perVECT!) and fill out the linked anonymous survey. The survey should take 10 to 15 minutes and I will be posting more of my theory for criticism and debate once I get enough survey responses.

This thread and survey has been approved and checked out by the moderators.

Hope to see the number of responses climb quickly (though please only take the survey one time. Multiple entries will (obviously) skew the results).

Please post here with any questions or comments. I think this is a topic that has the potential to generate a lot of discussion and debate, all of it friendly and collaborative, I'm sure.

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Thanks

Doctorpinch


Mod Note: This survey has been vetted and approved by LC Staff. - Silrog22

It 100% depends on tramuas and how you think of yourself

 

[User_176898]

 

[Coffee]

Better late than never.

 

[ThatGoblin]

I did the survey I mostly did neutral\liked but everyone has their turn offs.