discussion Why do we like the kinks we like? Help uncover possible connections by taking an anonymous survey

[doctorpinch]

Strange, i dont know any alpha including myself who would ever submit or allow any form of humilation. And no meek girl ever tried to order me around, except for some officials but thats beside the context ^^
Hypocrites and switches have more average personalities and just play roles.
However, alphas are not bound to be into the dom/sub/humilation/bondage shit, but they have better chances in avoiding it than omegas ^^

I don't know that we all know what happens behind closed doors. But there is the stereotype of the alpha CEO who wants to be whipped in the bedroom. That was more what I was talking about. But I certainly agree that all of these things are on a spectrum (a bell curve to be more precise).

I would like to contribute to your research by answering the survey because you are trying to better understand human sexuality. Too few research are doing that and yours could help science advance.

On the other hand, as a post-graduate student I have to point out some very obvious flaws in your methodology.

First, recruiting participants on a forum like this one implies an important bias (males who like edgy erotic stuff) and invalidate all possibilities of the results being representative of the whole population.
Second, confidentiality. I think this one is pretty obvious. When contributing to academic research, it is protected via the integrity (or possible lost of) the researcher or the institution to wich he is affiliated. To ensure this, you have to sign a form wich states i.g. that your data will only be used in regard to a certain research project and that under no circumstances could they allow you to be identified personnally. In most research it wouldn’t matter much to be identified, but on the subject of sexuality, it does. A lot. I mean some « kinks » surveyed here (incest, rape, bestiality, loli, to name a few) are not only extremely taboo but also completely criminal in many countries.
I hate to play devil’s advocate as I would very much like to read the results of your research, but I’ll pass.

In the end, I hope you really have noble intentions. Small communities such as this one are a safe haven for people to talk about things generally not accepted in our very prude societies. Too often have they collapsed under the relentless scrutiny of the authorities. I sincerely hope you will read my message and take it into consideration going forward.

I agree that the first methodological flaw is absolutely true. The results of this survey can't be extrapolated onto the general population. But they could well serve as a starting point for justifying further, methodologically sound surveys. Of course, the results are going to skew towards the porn addicted, not to mention towards attraction to younger objects of fantasy. I'm also not getting nearly enough females responding to the survey, again, a result of self-selection bias. But again, it's only intended to serve as a starting point.

As to the second point, none of those confidentiality protections are needed here. All that confidentiality protection is needed only in non-anonymous surveys. But this survey is anonymous. It's a very difficult trade-off between the desire to be able to do follow-up questions based on earlier results and the ability to follow-up years later to see how things have changed versus the openness and trust in results that comes from anonymous surveys. But in this case, I don't have the infrastructure to put in place all of the protections that you're talking about, so anonymity is easier.

If you take a look at the link, there's no email or phone number, no name, no address, no nothing required to take the survey. You can do it through a VPN if you're worried about the system recording your ip address (which it doesn't). All this was verified by the moderators before they allowed the survey invitation to be posted.

I hope that addresses your concerns and you feel comfortable taking the survey. But your thoughts about the results already posted are most welcome and I hope you'll follow the blog that I'm trying to put together to discuss these results and my theories. Your perspective as a post-grad would be helpful.

 

[Dude123456]

I don't know that we all know what happens behind closed doors. But there is the stereotype of the alpha CEO who wants to be whipped in the bedroom. That was more what I was talking about. But I certainly agree that all of these things are on a spectrum (a bell curve to be more precise).

I agree that the first methodological flaw is absolutely true. The results of this survey can't be extrapolated onto the general population. But they could well serve as a starting point for justifying further, methodologically sound surveys. Of course, the results are going to skew towards the porn addicted, not to mention towards attraction to younger objects of fantasy. I'm also not getting nearly enough females responding to the survey, again, a result of self-selection bias. But again, it's only intended to serve as a starting point.

As to the second point, none of those confidentiality protections are needed here. All that confidentiality protection is needed only in non-anonymous surveys. But this survey is anonymous. It's a very difficult trade-off between the desire to be able to do follow-up questions based on earlier results and the ability to follow-up years later to see how things have changed versus the openness and trust in results that comes from anonymous surveys. But in this case, I don't have the infrastructure to put in place all of the protections that you're talking about, so anonymity is easier.

If you take a look at the link, there's no email or phone number, no name, no address, no nothing required to take the survey. You can do it through a VPN if you're worried about the system recording your ip address (which it doesn't). All this was verified by the moderators before they allowed the survey invitation to be posted.

I hope that addresses your concerns and you feel comfortable taking the survey. But your thoughts about the results already posted are most welcome and I hope you'll follow the blog that I'm trying to put together to discuss these results and my theories. Your perspective as a post-grad would be helpful.

I appreciate that you quickly replied to my message. For me it shows that you really care about your research subject and that you value others comments as a way to improve said research. Two important qualities of a researcher.
I might have come out as a bit harsh on your project and i hope we can get past that. Its just a very sensitive subject about wich, one can never be too careful.
That said, I think you really should see this project through. Your arguments convinced me of its necessity, be it just a first step.
These issues have injustly took so many lives on the hypocritical altar of right-thinking or religious bullshit and its about time to offer an articulate, fact-based, well-documented counter-argument.
After all, we are talking about fantasies that some had the courage to transform into works of art amidst a very hostile public opinion.
As a conclusion, allow me to point that The Beatles records were once burn for their supposedly ungodly content and that Marquis de Sade was imprisoned for his erotic prose that would today be considered as soft porn.

I don't know that we all know what happens behind closed doors. But there is the stereotype of the alpha CEO who wants to be whipped in the bedroom. That was more what I was talking about. But I certainly agree that all of these things are on a spectrum (a bell curve to be more precise).

I agree that the first methodological flaw is absolutely true. The results of this survey can't be extrapolated onto the general population. But they could well serve as a starting point for justifying further, methodologically sound surveys. Of course, the results are going to skew towards the porn addicted, not to mention towards attraction to younger objects of fantasy. I'm also not getting nearly enough females responding to the survey, again, a result of self-selection bias. But again, it's only intended to serve as a starting point.

As to the second point, none of those confidentiality protections are needed here. All that confidentiality protection is needed only in non-anonymous surveys. But this survey is anonymous. It's a very difficult trade-off between the desire to be able to do follow-up questions based on earlier results and the ability to follow-up years later to see how things have changed versus the openness and trust in results that comes from anonymous surveys. But in this case, I don't have the infrastructure to put in place all of the protections that you're talking about, so anonymity is easier.

If you take a look at the link, there's no email or phone number, no name, no address, no nothing required to take the survey. You can do it through a VPN if you're worried about the system recording your ip address (which it doesn't). All this was verified by the moderators before they allowed the survey invitation to be posted.

I hope that addresses your concerns and you feel comfortable taking the survey. But your thoughts about the results already posted are most welcome and I hope you'll follow the blog that I'm trying to put together to discuss these results and my theories. Your perspective as a post-grad would be helpful.

I would gladly contribute if you allow me. Im quite new on this forum and I dont know how to contact someone privately. Not to hide anything from anybody but simply not to burden the forum and its users with technical vocabulary or methodology.
I’ll complete the survey while I wait for your answer

 

[doctorpinch]

Let me get the blog set up and going and I think that will be a community that's interested in this topic as a research issue. That will be an easy place for all to offer comments while still maintaining anonymity.

 

[dirty36]

The simple answer to why I may or may not have some questionable kinks is the internet.
Without it I am guessing I wouldn't have been exposed to near as much without it.

 

[BixNoodz]

I just submitted the survey and am very interested in hearing about the results if and when it's possible.

 

[Loliholic]

The simple answer to why I may or may not have some questionable kinks is the internet.
Without it I am guessing I wouldn't have been exposed to near as much without it.

Lol, its the other way around for me. I did and experienced many things i couldnt even search for because i dont know if they even have names yet. Some things just find their way into orgies when they reach the peak ^^

 

[chester1530]

where can I read the results?

 

[doctorpinch]

The simple answer to why I may or may not have some questionable kinks is the internet.
Without it I am guessing I wouldn't have been exposed to near as much without it.

This is the environmental trigger. But the question I'd like to ask is whether there are genetic factors in play that primed those environmental triggers.

where can I read the results?

You can read the results right here!! (See next post).

 

[doctorpinch]

Just checked the survey page this afternoon, and, wonder of wonders, we just hit 150 responses. So I'm re-posting the results with the updated numbers. My guess is this will be the last update for this group. I'd love to get to 500 or 1,000 survey responses, but I don't think we have the bandwidth here. In any event, I'm having to redesign the survey because my use of the ratings-type of question gives me data that I have to significantly manipulate before I can filter by specific results, which is a major pain in the asshole. So I'm going to switch all those questions to multiple choice. I'll still need to do some data manipulation to calculate averages, since my choices will be non-numeric, but that's relatively trivial compared to what I'm having to do now.

So here are the results as of this afternoon.

 

[Loliholic]

Erm, could some lesbians or gays do the poll please, its kinda not anonymous as long as i'm the only one

 

[dirty36]

Lol, its the other way around for me. I did and experienced many things i couldnt even search for because i dont know if they even have names yet. Some things just find their way into orgies when they reach the peak ^^

Whoa, Whoa, Whoa...
Wow, Orgies! and they have a peek to reach? Wow I have lived a boring life.

 

[doctorpinch]

Erm, could some lesbians or gays do the poll please, its kinda not anonymous as long as i'm the only one

I agree. We have way too few women and way too few gays and lesbians answering the survey. This is especially troubling to me, since the very first thing I want to write about if the Fraternal Birth Order Effect (FBOE). Unfortunately, also not going to hit your demographic, as it deals with only gay men. The FBOE is a well-accepted heritable element to the likelihood of being a gay man. The more older brothers you have, the more likely you are to be gay. (Chances rising from something on the order of 2% to 3% to 5% (I think - I'm working from memory, here) for 0, 1, and 2 older brothers.))

Strangely, the effect does not appear to be seen for older sisters or for women being gay. There are lots of interesting theories about the mechanism, but very few theories I can find about the evolutionary reasons for it. So I intend to propose a theory about why evolution would have selected for this specific set of characteristics. But it sure would be nice to have some gay men take the survey....

I also figured out a workaround on the average and standard deviation calculations that allowed me to calculate these much more easily. I still need to figure out a way to filter effectively and keep the calculations going, but at least this is a start. Here's the average and StdDev calculations for the 150 survey results. This time sorted alphabetically. (Mostly because I forgot to resort by average, despite the name.) Let me know if you'd like to see the resorts sorted by average rating.

Not surprisingly, not much change here, though there is some random drift. I haven't looked at these numbers in detail, but little change is a good sign for the strength of any signal we get out of the data.

Thanks to everyone for contributing and for contributing to the discussion here!!! Much appreciated!

Doc

 

[lewdlove]

Taken survey... i found out i like what i like, and don't like what i don't like.-----

 

[HandholdDegen]

A lot of questions at the beginning are very close and personally identifiable (as you can really narrow down a person from a crowd if you know these answers). That said, I don't like how many questions that should be multiple choice isn't. Like AoA? I like a whole spectrum, but I can only pick MILF because there is only space for one answer.

So, what is the survey finding so far? The pdf posted just now is just an average of all answers that I can tell and, surprise surprise, most respondents from here like to corrupt virgin twin lolis and creampie them. But, what more can we tell when we start looking at the background data?

I'm into incest porn, especially mother-son, because my mother was a cam girl. She tried to hide it from me, but I knew.

Great mom. Best mom.

But ever since middle school I just can't break this absolute lust that rages through me when I encounter incest porn.

Hot. Would be nice to be able to look at how your mother masturbates whenever you feel like.

 

[LoreMaster34]

All that did was make me realize I'm kinky af. And its all the internet's fault

 

[pornmustache]

All that did was make me realize I'm kinky af. And its all the internet's fault

It's a rough life, but we'll power through

 

[Kugatsu500]

Finished the survey. I think it could have gone a bit deeper. Some questions, for instance, are not very clear. The cheating one, am I being cheated on, or doing the cheating? Same for the prostitution one, is it about being a prostitute, hiring a prostitute, being a pimp? Kinda unclear, needs some polishing.

 

[c0rkscr3w]

You'll get the survey results where you found this survey.. what the fuck?

 

[doctorpinch]

A lot of questions at the beginning are very close and personally identifiable (as you can really narrow down a person from a crowd if you know these answers). That said, I don't like how many questions that should be multiple choice isn't. Like AoA? I like a whole spectrum, but I can only pick MILF because there is only space for one answer.

So, what is the survey finding so far? The pdf posted just now is just an average of all answers that I can tell and, surprise surprise, most respondents from here like to corrupt virgin twin lolis and creampie them. But, what more can we tell when we start looking at the background data?

Hot. Would be nice to be able to look at how your mother masturbates whenever you feel like.

I'm still working on my first post. As it's turning out, that first post isn't even specifically about these results. It's more about being gay and the evolutionary benefits (if any) of being gay. Then the next post will be about kinks more generally and whether they say anything about our heredity. Putting all this together is a lot harder than I thought. But hoping to have the blog up next weekend.

 

[bingbear]

Would be interesting to see the average, median, or graphics of the results.