discussion What's your opinion about remakes when the game is not finished yet?

[User_3471]

That's why they should plan well ahead. That's the 7 Ps - Prior Planning and Preparation Prevents Piss Poor Performance.

It doesn’t always work that way. I make my living as a writer/editor. I have had many projects that didn’t end up where my original “planning” put them. Stories evolve. Like a person, they start as an infant and as they grow, they are pulled in different directions until they become what they are at the end. Stories are hard written into ink. Life teaches us that a human can learn many things, be many things and evolve. A printed story however has a narrow trajectory where you can’t simply go right or left without considering everything behind you.

A couple years ago, I sold a short story to a developer who read it, loved it and then asked me to make changes somewhere near the middle of the story. It took me four rewrites to get the story fleshed out in a way that met his needs. Planning can’t account for things like new ideas, plot holes and something as simple as a small detail that causes the writer to go, “Hang on! I can’t do that without going back three chapters and changing everything.”

Writing isn’t about planning. We writers build stories that mirror life. We aren’t writing a users manual for a toaster.

 

[User_111574]

When it comes to projects like Taffy Tales or Summertime Saga, the attitude is negative. Too much time spent on it (years!). And the case of Amnesia is the exact opposite. Just yesterday I finished playing the remaster of the game, I was quite satisfied with it (this update has not appeared here yet). The story is filled with meaning, some storylines are changed (for the better), graphics - very high level. For 5 months the developer reworked the game completely (two great scenes and two small story arcs were not included, but the author was in a hurry to release the remaster by the previously announced date, April 4, and these scenes will be in the next, May update). True, the volume of the archive with the game has grown 7 gigabytes to 12, but it's worth it.

So it happens in different ways.

 

[Tisty]

Just like summertime saga. already stop continuing the plot and doing rework for years.. with the current pace will likely take many more years

 

[MasterUser]

Depending on the game this can be good or bad. If remake means re-rendering old pictures using higher quality models or higher setting then is fine but most of the time I see it like sucking money or wanting to run away for lolis in game (change them to more adult versions as remake).

 

[somedude95]

There are many games that started out awesome and then were abandond. So if someone wants to finish it, I'm all the happier for it. I also like some fan made stuff. It may not be cannon but it's still fun to enjoy.

 

[broooooooxddfd]

to be fair most indie devs are newbies and they learn as they create, so it's normal that when they haven't finished their game yet, they decide they had aquired better skills and they can remake everything way better. But I think that stupid, end your projects before jumping to another one

 

[Deleted member 162149]

i'm sure they can be done in good faith, but often times it just seems like a patreon milking tactic

 

[4oomci]

Better to finish the original game before doing a new remake of one, IMO

 

[nikolai777]

Depends. For example, Unaware in the city now is going for it's second remake and this time the remake turns the game more into a 2D with touches of 3D with more animations and content. But if a game has constant "remakes" and doesn't change too much from the "originals" then there's something weird happening in the developing of the game

 

[Ly290590]

I have mix feelings about the remakes, a remake could bring back a game lost in an old engine, but there is a lot of developers that use the excuse of a remake to keep milking the same game for several years.

 

[GourmetChef]

It's sooo lame. 9/10 times it's just the dev trying to get more money from their loyal fans.

 

[Mageborn]

I'd rather they finish the game. I dislike remaking ongoing games. I play primarily for the story, if your story is good and im enjoying it i dont want to have to stop and wait years while you get caught back up or worse find out you changed all the story i liked and basically just made a whole different game with the same fucking name as the original. Hahaha rant over.

 

[Connoisseur739]

If a remake is being made, then something went wrong along the way. Maybe the dev has written themselves in a a hole and are no longer happy with the current state of the game but regardless it definitely slows down the game's traction.

 

[JadedSkywalker]

I would prefer they finish a game before a remake, but I can't claim that quality improvements are not measurable. My problem is the case where a creator remakes so many times they abandon their game. And in the process of remaking midstream if not to censor their game, they lose momentum. And people lose interest.

 

[TheHolySin]

Well it pretty much depends on the game, if the game isn't that old or othervise doesn't need a remake then it's just a wast of time and money. On the other hand there are a lot of games where I would simply prefer a remaster rather then a full remake.

 

[That One Guy]

This has happened on some games I played. One dev did the re-rendering in pieces and released it with the update. I was cool with that. Sure each update was smaller but the game was still progressing and I had a solid reason why the update was smaller. Another dev just stopped working on the game and started it over from the beginning. The remake was more of a rewrite as it was very different. I lost interest in that one and now I wont look at anything else that dev does. So for me it depends on how the dev handles it and why they want to redo something.

 

[DoctorWells]

I get it, because sometimes you start out and youre just throwing shit at the wall, then when you know what you're doing you look back at your old stuff and hate. But sometimes you just have to let things finish

 

[Loaderblaster]

hate since they always cut content and make up updaters even slower well still milking people. like public H life went from good to having nothing in the remake.

 

[Sfyawva]

If it's not required because of engine limitations with that developer have in mind or some critical bugs that can't be easily solved I think it's very bad way to go, Like what creator of Camp Pinewood did, remake of remake, reboot. And a LOT of people are still paying him without any good updated all this years

 

[ApocalypseSurvivor]

I hate remakes. If I want to play old games then there's a emulator to play from Atari 2600 till xbox 360.
"buuuttt do you own games??"
No. I dont care. Old games already obsolete and abandoned.