discussion VN Ren'Py DAZ The Sinful City Fight For Love [v0.4] [Baki VN Games]

[Peacemaker093]

I dont like how this update went (technically speaking, not a comment on the content). My last save was at a choice with the sister in the flashback, but the update continues with one choice being unimplemented (the one i wanted), and the other having 9 branching choices. of those 9 choices, 1-2 had 3 options, the rest had 2, and of ALL those choices, 8 had unimplemented paths, 1 was a scene variant, and 2 were cut short. so more or less, the entire update was ONE very specific path out of like a dozen or more. in 0.2, i had 2 branching saves. in 0.3 i have 11 new saves for 13 total JUST to see the different paths/scenes later... THIS IS NOT EFFICIENT design imo. It creates so much annoyance between either spamming saves for future content or being forced to one path and not having a choice until SEVERAL later updates. Please can you make sequential, fully implemented sequences of events?

No I give option for patreons to chose what is implemented next. Are you a patreon ?

 

[Dweede]

i see, but that makes it kind of difficult and annoying to play like that where so many paths are shut out until who knows how many updates later.

 

[RushdiaAhmad74]

with such a huge file but very short content..disappointing

 

[Lolilovers]

What the difference with HQ and balance?
Are HQ = loli and balance without the loli?

 

[stevetheegg]

The plot is difficult to follow, the characters behave is unrealistic ways (even for a porn game) and the dialogue is a slog to read. I can't recommend this game in its current state but it's early so maybe things can be turned around.

 

[Nastastic]

What the difference with HQ and balance?
Are HQ = loli and balance without the loli?

HQ is ludicrously huge resolution and file sizes (10.9 GB). Balance is only ridiculously huge (5.5 GB).

 

[-CookieMonster666-]

The plot is difficult to follow, the characters behave is unrealistic ways (even for a porn game) and the dialogue is a slog to read. I can't recommend this game in its current state but it's early so maybe things can be turned around.

I used to wonder what would happen if a dev chose to make their game with a single focus (but have some choices along the way ofc), and then go back through with another singular focus for another path. So say, all romance-focused but with choices on which girls or whatever; then go through again with all corruption-focused; etc. While I'm sure that would help developers avoid scope creep for LIs and other options, I don't think it would be a successful venture. A dev will tend to draw a specific audience with their game. If you then were to shift gears to add content that initial audience hadn't followed you to see, you'd likely lose at least a lot of that initial audience while you were building content for a mostly different audience.

But the current pattern most follow isn't the best, either, if there are many options. You either develop specific paths and have others waiting long for their playthroughs to be able to continue; or you give very little content to all paths, which you may or may not get out more often than every few months. Man, it's got to be really difficult to manage casting a net that will gain you enough players to turn a profit while also being a solo developer.

 

[Lolilovers]

HQ is ludicrously huge resolution and file sizes (10.9 GB). Balance is only ridiculously huge (5.5 GB).

Ah thanks, so its just compresed and actual resolution

 

[stevetheegg]

I used to wonder what would happen if a dev chose to make their game with a single focus (but have some choices along the way ofc), and then go back through with another singular focus for another path. So say, all romance-focused but with choices on which girls or whatever; then go through again with all corruption-focused; etc. While I'm sure that would help developers avoid scope creep for LIs and other options, I don't think it would be a successful venture. A dev will tend to draw a specific audience with their game. If you then were to shift gears to add content that initial audience hadn't followed you to see, you'd likely lose at least a lot of that initial audience while you were building content for a mostly different audience.

But the current pattern most follow isn't the best, either, if there are many options. You either develop specific paths and have others waiting long for their playthroughs to be able to continue; or you give very little content to all paths, which you may or may not get out more often than every few months. Man, it's got to be really difficult to manage casting a net that will gain you enough players to turn a profit while also being a solo developer.

That does sound very challenging as you're not just creating a game to satisfy yourself but an audience as well. That can be tricky -- especially if what a lot of what they want falls outside of your personal tastes.

That being said, I don't think it's necessary to just develop a single path at a time to prevent scope creep. It seems to me that if you just take the time to create a solid, complete outline for the entire story to use as a guide before doing anything else, that should suffice. It takes time and it can be frustrating because nothing resembling a game seems like it's being produced but taking the time to build a proper foundation will not only keep focus tight and prevent the creep but make the storytelling tighter because you're able to see the entire chain of events as a whole making it a lot easier to balance pacing. I think when devs focus too tightly on making a release, they can get a little myopic and lose the forest for the trees.

Interesting insights that I've never considered. Thanks for sharing.

 

[ontach]

It's been a month, and still no single download for v0.3. No compressed version either. Have to download v0.25 and then update to 0.3.
Oops! My bad. A single compressed version does exist. My eyes need rest.

 

[jbartendgod]

I played till the end of version .3. Abbi and MC was in a photo studio/apartment. when she was ready for the shoot she asked MC to close his eyes while she came out of dressing room. in my version of the game the MC never opened his eyes. did I miss something? after a few sentences it said end of current version. WTF

 

[9alwa]

I played till the end of version .3. Abbi and MC was in a photo studio/apartment. when she was ready for the shoot she asked MC to close his eyes while she came out of dressing room. in my version of the game the MC never opened his eyes. did I miss something? after a few sentences it said end of current version. WTF

If you did get to the studio means you are indeed on the right path. Try different choices it should progress a bit further. There's no vaginal yet but iirc she does give him a bj

 

[Peacemaker093]

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[jbartendgod]

If you did get to the studio means you are indeed on the right path. Try different choices it should progress a bit further. There's no vaginal yet but iirc she does give him a bj

Maybe if I choose the other dress there won't be a blackout. Will try tonight

 

[sarbasst]

This game is good

 

[Fumbledore]

0.4 is done. I'm not a Patron there anymore, but anyone that is or was, got this update for "free". So just a heads up that it's sorta "out". Really a good game this one.
Not gonna be one of those that whine about 'piracy' and "support the dev, because he deserves it..blah blah".... STILL....this is one of few games/devs I never regretted throwing money at.


to the dev: I'll be back to supporting you soon-ish. I truly like this game and it's characters. Not a fan of the "this part isnt done, check back in X number of updates, try another path", I get it, but pulls down the 'score' for *me*. Overall, as I said, really like almost everything about the game, and one of few games I have and/or will support again soon-ish. (real life stuff atm that requires funds)

 

[Eraf]

Why there is no pictures after chosing WIP options in dialog?

 

[Fumbledore]

Why there is no pictures after chosing WIP options in dialog?

Well you kinda answered your question yourself. It's WIP.

In case you dont know what WIP means, it stands for Work In Progress. In other words, that option is not done/finished/in the game yet.

 

[Nicest_Incest]

i see, but that makes it kind of difficult and annoying to play like that where so many paths are shut out until who knows how many updates later.

My guess is it was done like that because seriously there's probably a small minority of readers that will to choose to NOT fuck their hot hebe daughter and lose those hot scenes in the process so that branch was given priority. Plus there's so many choice branches probably for a bit of realism, as stating the obvious it's really hard to get your 12-14yo daughter to actually want to fuck you (often taking years of grooming/seduction), even if for now those other (wrong?) choices are dead ends.

Edit: and yeah, the dev really needs to use webp/webm for images/animations. 11.2GB for a 0.3 of it's length is ridiculous and update-onlys also mostly wouldn't be necessary.

 

[RabbitFrost01]

Not sure if I'm being thick... But I can't seem to figure out how to play the updates.. Do I need to merge them with 0.25? If so how?