discussion VN KN Ren'Py DAZ The Five Star Stories [v0.9.0] [Narrator Studios]

[Mr. Tearson]

i get that my first reply to you was to know if i was being disrespectful as well

That is completely respectful. You made a suggestion instead of downright shaming them. Actually, made me pretty proud. Lol.

 

[Shawnchapp]

IMHO, it takes a very weak willed and greedy Dev to lock ANY actual game-play behind a paywall. You do tiered releases, and keep the gap between tiers relativity short. If you want to paywall content, provide visual extras that are NOT part of game-play. Non-canon images, renders that weren't quite perfect for the game so they never made it in, and the like.

a good example of this is midnight paradise, the elite tier has elite scenes in the gallery (only in the gallery none canon scene) that some subs suggest and the dev adds them. for the higher tiers so the get special content and decent sex scenes but the game and normal versions aren't compromised

 

[The Narrator]

Hey guys, I'm really sorry for putting the game behind a paywall and for not thinking about giving you the full game at least after a while. I really hope you understand, I would never want to disappoint you!
All I ever wanted was to make every single subscriber who believed in me and in this game feel appreciated.
I guess I didn't think about future supporters like you.
So, not to make it too long, I'm going to share the full game for free, without the hidden part (smols) after 20 days of its official release.
It was my mistake and I hope I haven't been too much of a disappointment to you.

 

[Nicest_Incest]

He forgot to mention, "Oh yeah, and the free version is total crap and gutted to hell by comparison, not just a missing optional loli scene here and there. Like everything in life you get what you pay for."
Edit (posted a few seconds too slow lol): I guess just paywalling the lolis is a plus and understandable if he lives in one of those cuntries. Quite a few loli devs do that actually for their own protection (though legally it's even more risky, if lolis happen to be illegal then profiting from them probably even more so).

 

[Hellster]

View attachment 366772
He forgot to mention, "Oh yeah, and the free version is total crap and gutted to hell by comparison, not just a missing optional loli scene here and there. Like everything in life you get what you pay for."
Edit (posted a few seconds too slow lol): I guess just paywalling the lolis is a plus and understandable if he lives in one of those cuntries. Quite a few loli devs do that actually for their own protection (though legally it's even more risky, if lolis happen to be illegal then profiting from them probably even more so).

That was addressed in the post directly before yours

 

[0bora]

Hey guys, I'm really sorry for putting the game behind a paywall and for not thinking about giving you the full game at least after a while. I really hope you understand, I would never want to disappoint you!
All I ever wanted was to make every single subscriber who believed in me and in this game feel appreciated.
I guess I didn't think about future supporters like you.
So, not to make it too long, I'm going to share the full game for free, without the hidden part (smols) after 20 days of its official release.
It was my mistake and I hope I haven't been too much of a disappointment to you.

thank you very much for the clarification... for now will erase it, anyway I had saw that save points does not exist anymore, and will wait for the future to see what it will bring... (in the meantime play other games)

 

[Nicest_Incest]

That was addressed in the post directly before yours

yeah posted a few seconds after them I guess, so added the edit. I guess only lolis will still be paywalled, but that's far more understandable. Ricoh did the same with April before removing her and there wasn't too much bitching, other than from confused angry F95 mobs that thought all content released in the month of April was paywalled, "April's content is premium/pay-only". Moral of that story: don't name your paywalled LI's after months of the year and release an update in that same month.

 

[Skully_Tophat_Man420]

I'm going to share the full game for free, without the hidden part (smols) after 20 days of its official release.

I'm confused. Are you still paywalling contents by removing smols?

 

[Nicest_Incest]

I'm confused. Are you still paywalling contents by removing smols?

No, just smols/lolis will be pay-teir only (mostly to keep from getting banned on loli-hostile AVN sites like F95 most likely, and separate loli patches are a pita to maintain). Ricoh did that with Corrupted Love and April before removing her altogether. I think also that Backheart's Personal Assistant's lolis are pay only too (though not sure, I've never been a free-tier sub).

 

[Skully_Tophat_Man420]

No, just smols/lolis will be pay-teir only (mostly to keep from getting banned on loli-hostile AVN sites like Fuck95 most likely, and separate loli patches are a pita to maintain). Ricoh did that with Corrupted Love and April before removing her altogether. I think also that Backheart's Personal Assistant's lolis are pay only too (though not sure, I've never been a free-tier sub).

Nah. PA's lolis are available on free tier and on here. They update through the tiers like most devs. I don't know what Richoh's doing but I gave up on his game. About to do the same here.

 

[Hellster]

No, just smols/lolis will be pay-teir only (mostly to keep from getting banned on loli-hostile AVN sites like Fuck95 most likely, and separate loli patches are a pita to maintain). Ricoh did that with Corrupted Love and April before removing her altogether. I think also that Backheart's Personal Assistant's lolis are pay only too (though not sure, I've never been a free-tier sub).

Could just post the full unedited version here
Half paywalling it is basically the same, so meh, I will just wait until it leaks, like we know it will.

 

[The Narrator]

Even with this paywall drama, you have my respect. You tried something, it made people irritated and you responded to their concerns with complete respect and understanding. I can't fault you for wanting to please your subscribers while advertising your game. Games like these (good loli games) are so rare nowadays and I immediately included it in my Incest Games list with a positive review. I hope to draw more people, to your game, that may overlook it due to it's early development.

Normally I hesitate to download games without anal sex tag (since they are kind of rare), but this is game fun enough without it.

I've already played this version, and will continue to play it in the future. Honestly, I smell a potential legend like Proud Father and Parental Love in the making.

Don't worry, anal is definitely going to happen. I just wanted to make sure I had a good connection with the girl before moving forward with that. I know my story is a little weird, but I'm trying to make it as real as possible!

 

[Shawnchapp]

I'm going to share the full game for free, without the hidden part (smols) after 20 days of its official release.

So just to be clear here after the 20 day mark the "content" (smols) will be released for free as in an uncensored version. as in the free version will be the same as the version released to paid tiers 20 days earlier?


(only asking cause i've had a few people be a little confused about the wording used)

 

[The Narrator]

So just to be clear here after the 20 day mark the "content" (smols) will be released for free as in an uncensored version. as in the free version will be the same as the version released to paid tiers 20 days earlier?


(only asking cause i've had a few people be a little confused about the wording used)

Exactly. The game will be released as it is for the supporters, except that it will be missing the part that I don't want to risk putting on these sites. I hope I've made myself clear and you understand my reasons.

 

[BgileMunro]

Hey guys, I'm really sorry for putting the game behind a paywall and for not thinking about giving you the full game at least after a while. I really hope you understand, I would never want to disappoint you!
All I ever wanted was to make every single subscriber who believed in me and in this game feel appreciated.
I guess I didn't think about future supporters like you.
So, not to make it too long, I'm going to share the full game for free, without the hidden part (smols) after 20 days of its official release.
It was my mistake and I hope I haven't been too much of a disappointment to you.

It was a bit frustrating because I wasn't aware of the way it worked so I downloaded both files, uncompressed the first one and then tried and of course failed to uncompress the second one (apparently the lolis) before giving up in frustration. I actually do support a number of AVNs but usually need to see the unedited version before I do that. By releasing it publicly after a delay you get people like me to try it and potentially subscribe.

 

[Skully_Tophat_Man420]

Exactly. The game will be released as it is for the supporters, except that it will be missing the part that I don't want to risk putting on these sites. I hope I've made myself clear and you understand my reasons.

Sorry, but you DO realize that this is also a loli site, right? You got more risk keeping it in your Patreon/SubscribeStar. Lol.

 

[Shawnchapp]

Exactly. The game will be released as it is for the supporters, except that it will be missing the part that I don't want to risk putting on these sites. I hope I've made myself clear and you understand my reasons.

So the free version (even after the 20 days) will never have that part?

also just an FYI that "content" is more then welcomed here.

 

[Hellster]

So the free version (even after the 20 days) will never have that part?

also just an FYI that "content" is more then welcomed here.

The petite content will stay paywalled, yes, may as well just leave it the way it is now.

 

[Skully_Tophat_Man420]

The petite content will stay paywalled, yes, may as well just leave it the way it is now.

He basically lied. Said he will release the FULL game. I'm not supporting that.

Edit: Sorry, just realized you meant the game, not the dev.

 

[BadJM]

Cuck95 is very inconsistent when it comes to smol characters so I can understand why the dev would want to have a public version without it so the game can stay on there. The big issue is that people will eventually leak the version with the smol characters anyway. Best solution for that is just have a patch with the smol content. There are plenty of games still on there that do that and they are fine.