discussion VN KN Ren'Py DAZ Ravenous [Arc 2 Ep.18] [Lament Entertainment]

[jeanbaklazan]

+1 month now, thanks for that.

I'm sure makaab will forgive me my brazenness, he's quite used to it by now (from his discord)

 

[CocoLoco02]

Thank you.

 

[makaab]

Episode 2 will arrive here soon enough, and on schedule, however episode 3 will have a week or 2 delay. Alpha for episode 3 has been released to supporters, but Im working on a scene that has quite a few animations, and I want it to be good. Therefore, that episode wont be on schedule, Im sorry to say. BUT, i guess you guys can worry about that in about a month and a half...lol.

 

[Puffnstuff]

Erica has been blue balling me for far too long...look forward to this new Arc.

 

[turgsh01]

While I do wish the sex scenes / animations were better and that there was less of just constant nakedness to allow us to actually appreciate it when it happens instead of it just being: "Ok, nice nice, let's move along to the next naked scene". I just feel like they're a bit weak... like there's not much passion put into the creation for them. An example would be the BJ Erica gave MC where the animations are retardedly fast and is more funny than appealing. The story on the other hand, quite interesting and more than makes up for the sex scenes. I'm actually probably a minority in this, but I'm kind of glad this game's sex scenes are far and few between because the story is great and I want to read more about it.

I haven't quite finished Act 1 yet, though I suspect I'm really close. I'm at the part where, without spoiling anything, the "Scooby gang" are taking a final action. Maybe there will finally be an actual gameplay choice to make.

Edit: So I finished up to the latest release... I can already see some improvement in sex scenes, (though maybe that was coincidence?), and somehow still being interesting story-wise, which surprises me a bit considering how Arc 1 ended. Not sure I care about the image icon popups or optional angle icons, etc, as they break immersion a little bit, but the replay gallery is appreciated for sure. But ya, I guess some of my previous opinions are outdated now.

 

[Beduin123]

Erica has been blue balling me for far too long...look forward to this new Arc.

It's not Erica it's the Dev blueballing you Or the MC blueballing himself, depending on how you look at it.
Erica was ready to jump on the magic MC's dick starting from day one, as well as all the other girls

 

[BadJM]

It's not Erica it's the Dev blueballing you Or the MC blueballing himself, depending on how you look at it.
Erica was ready to jump on the magic MC's dick starting from day one, as well as all the other girls

I personally don't really care for realism in adult games that much but it kind of makes sense why the mc didn't fuck her right away. It wasn't like when he moved in, he was expecting to have sex with them and I think anyone would be weirded out if they saw their sister eating their mom's pussy. Then the whole cult and demon stuff happened so yea.. not a lot of time to fuck around with the girls. The fact that he was able to have sex a couple of times before dealing with the cult, it's very impressive.

 

[Puffnstuff]

I personally don't really care for realism in adult games that much but it kind of makes sense why the mc didn't fuck her right away. It wasn't like when he moved in, he was expecting to have sex with them and I think anyone would be weirded out if they saw their sister eating their mom's pussy. Then the whole cult and demon stuff happened so yea.. not a lot of time to fuck around with the girls. The fact that he was able to have sex a couple of times before dealing with the cult, it's very impressive.

Well, if there was ever a game where "realism" takes a vacation, it's this one. I mean, it's fantasy horror, in addition to the insanely fortunate situation the MC finds himself in.

Yes, of course there was no expectation that the MC would hook up with his underage sister straight off just because she is a bit of an exhibitionist. You hit on all the valid points of why that would likely not occur in "real life." My point is really about the fact that I'm still waiting, and "arc 1" wasn't exactly short. (I've not started Arc 2 yet, just got it downloaded.) On some level I do like the slow burn buildup, it makes Erica even more desirable than if they had hooked up quickly. I was just surprised that after an initial early encounter, the dev decided to back that train up and focus on so many other things, other girls, women, cougars, old grannies, freaks of nature, the plot, etc.

I've always enjoyed the writing in this game. It's one of the few I can say that I read all the dialog as apposed to skimming or flat out skipping. As a bit of a finicky hack myself, that is no easy task for sure, so well done on that front.

 

[Beduin123]

I personally don't really care for realism in adult games that much but it kind of makes sense

Well, I'll just skip "the whole cult and demon stuff" standing next to the word "realism", but even without that the pacing, the sequence of events as well as the whole premises seem to be very weird (there are a lot of deaths and disappearances in the town but it seems that nobody outside and even half of the citizens inside much care about that, most of the people in this small town don't know each other etc.).
As I said before, I can turn the blind eye on things like that, but when it comes to emotions and actions of the characters, which often do not seem natural, the game is stumbling all the way.

Spoiler

Like in the previous update, the MC once again "has no time" to fuck Erica, but allows Amelia to lick her simultaneously fucking Amelia instead of Erica...

...basically delaying the sex between the siblings once again just because the Dev believes that it is not the time for us to see it yet, not because how the events are unfolding in the story. I have to remind that Arc 2 is "three moths later" after Arc 1 events. All this time the MC "doesn't have time" to fuck Erica. Not because she is not ready (she is ready from day 1), not because he doesn't want (initially he had some doubts but decided that he's OK with that). Just because he doesn't have the fucking time. Meanwhile he finds plenty of time to date and fuck other women.

I would understand if the MC had to chase Erica, corrupt her, break her. That would make her the main prize worthy of chasing. No, she desperately wants to fuck the MC from the moment she first saw him, and he just says: "Nah, later. Maybe in three months time I will let Amelia lick you while I fuck her"

Sorry, it's all doesn't look like a natural progression of events or like a story of lust and passion even in this functionary universe.

 

[Puffnstuff]

I would understand if the MC had to chase Erica, corrupt her, break her. That would make her the main prize worthy of chasing. No, she desperately wants to fuck her from the moment she first saw him, and he just says: "Nah, later. Maybe in three months time"

Spoiler

so we are still blueballed? fucking hell.

You make some valid point I hadn't considered. I mean, it was obvious the dev was saving her for a climactic event. I suspect it will mean more than just a good fuck, their copulation probably changes destiny or some shit, which is great, but yeah, maybe she needed to be very reluctant, even put off by the idea from the start. making her unnaccessable and then a slow progression of connection, blossoming feelings, time spent turning romantic...that would have been the best way to "save" Erica for later.

 

[Beduin123]

Spoiler

so we are still blueballed? fucking hell.

You make some valid point I hadn't considered. I mean, it was obvious the dev was saving her for a climactic event. I suspect it will mean more than just a good fuck, their copulation probably changes destiny or some shit, which is great, but yeah, maybe she needed to be very reluctant, even put off by the idea from the start. making her unnaccessable and then a slow progression of connection, blossoming feelings, time spent turning romantic...that would have been the best way to "save" Erica for later.

You got my point. But this is just one of the examples of wrong pacing/relations in the game.

 

[BgileMunro]

Wow; I am a bit sad to see these negative comments. For what it's worth, I like the game a lot and I love the girls. Sure you can nit pick. It's not War and Peace, but I've enjoyed the story and the girls and hope the dev doesn't find these comments too discouraging.

 

[Beduin123]

I like the game a lot and I love the girls

The girls are fantastic, the story, as it is, is sorta OK, but the setting and the relations could be more believable. I hope the Dev learns as he develops the project. Wish him all the best.

Sure you can nit pick. It's not War and Peace

It is a common argument in this forum. But it's a lame excuse. Of course none of these games are. But some are better and some are worse. And BTW I don't like War and Peace

 

[makaab]

Here's a spoiler concerning Erica sex: Episode 3

I understand that everyone (almost) is wanting the erica sex.
I promise you, that I am not delaying it because of any kind of motive. I am not intentionally making anybody wait for anything.
I am as transparent as I can be with this whole project. Just look at my discord for proof of that.
I am writing/making this story the way that I want it to be. Erica is not my main focus.
It was always planned for her to have her first sex scene in arc 2.
I completely understand that as a player, you want things a certain way, I do too when I'm playing. HOWEVER, I always try to keep in mind that the game that I'm playing, isn't my vision.
I apologize for those that feel disappointed with this.
I do not want to compromise my vision to make people happy. I will then be unhappy, and the motivation will steadily decline on my end. (small things are okay as long as they don't affect my direction)

I know, I know, not everyone will like my decision making, and I cant apologize enough for that.
However I wont apologize for only being so flexible.
Things may not make sense to you for one reason or another int he story, but from my perspective, they do. Realism in some ways, and unrealistic in another. Thats gonna happen in every game you play.
Sometimes its hard to balance realism in and unrealistic setting. I'm happy with the balance that I have found.
Either way, thanks to everyone that has played it, and is still playing.

 

[Beduin123]

Here's a spoiler concerning Erica sex: Episode 3

Did you tell her this? In this update the poor girl sounded utterly desperate for the good fuck. And the MC seems to care just for a good sleep like a 60 years old. He doesn't seem to be overjoyed about prospective of finally fucking Erica

 

[Xtuga]

This one got me hyped by the characters and intrigued by the story

 

[jeanbaklazan]

Did you tell her this? In this update the poor girl sounded utterly desperate for the good fuck. And the MC seems to care just for a good sleep like a 60 years old. He doesn't seem to be overjoyed about prospective of finally fucking Erica

There's better one (from discord)

 

[Grankaiser]

bug as wrong person is talking here it should be the MC

 

[makaab]

bug as wrong person is talking here it should be the MC
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fixed
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[Beduin123]

I understand that everyone (almost) is wanting the erica sex.

You don't quite get it. Take, for example, Chasing Sunsets. A great game with slow burn. The progression of events there looks natural. The characters have feelings for each other and it can be felt.

Here in this game everybody wants to fuck each other almost immediately, but for some lame excuses they don't do it, or do it with other people instead. From this comes disappointment.

The MC is supposedly a very compassionate person, but it doesn't feel that. They say that a lot in the game but sometimes it looks like he has no feelings for people in general and any girl in particular.
The visual novels are similar to the movies in a way: if you can show something, do it instead of telling it. Because visual comes first. In Ravenous the MC has almost the same face expression the whole way. That's also another reason why it feels that he doesn't care for the girls.

All in all, the graphics are great, the story is also not that bad. At least it's not plain stupid. Just the character dynamics and relationships need to be more natural IMO.