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If anything, Lewdcorner could also maybe try helping Seath a bit? Seath has been a long standing member and been consistently delivering largest amount of huge member+ games.

For starters in the main pages mention that developer has lost subscribestar. And that if people want faster updates, they should consider supporting him.
Secondly remove the substar link and add fansly.
 
If anything, Lewdcorner could also maybe try helping Seath a bit? Seath has been a long standing member and been consistently delivering largest amount of huge member+ games.

For starters in the main pages mention that developer has lost subscribestar. And that if people want faster updates, they should consider supporting him.
Secondly remove the substar link and add fansly.
Good idea about posting fansly
 
seath recently got fucked over by subcribestar but did say that he's getting ready for a new release with personal assistant getting a new name and a lot of content

PA: Fracture Minds
  • Renders 1200
  • Animations 35
  • Sandbox mode. a brand new way to play. (Optional so you VN lovers can still play the normal way)
  • More paths, and ways to play. And I mean a lot. Tons of ways to play. Paths that are seen in ways that are hard to explain.
  • 90 Music an sounds files
  • The end and start of a new and improved PA
  • Tons, and I mean tons of content. Probably bigger than any update ever
  • Hours and hours of content
sounds good to me. :)
 
Yeah sorry, checked out fansly because I do want to support Seath -- but in my state they need to take a picture of me for "age verification". Kinda fuck that...
Then switch states. That is what VPNs are for. Thankfuilly they go by IP, not billing address like every other porn site AFAIK. Wisconsin still works, at least for now. But yeah shit like that is why porn getting altogether banned even for free is probably in the not too distant future. All the gov't would have to do is simply strong arm Visa/MC into demanding the telecoms/web hosts not allow porn to be hosted. Should be illegal but apparently 1st Amendment doesn't mean shit to them and getting someone else to do what you legally can't do is a common work arounf to avoid the lawsuits from FSC and the like and probably will be until they sue the PP's instead, though for the past few years they seem to be just playing their lyre while Rome burns.
 
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They write Fuck95, but I think the DLC is the way to go, just create a normal porn game, no incest, no underage stuff, and then add a dlc later that fixes those issues...

for the facepalm idiots, if you don't want to get paid for a game, do it as you please. But if you want police behind you, or other problems, like some of the games. And don't want any money from patreon. Then you are free to do as you please.

Of course it should be common sense
 
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They write Fuck95, but I think the DLC is the way to go, just create a normal porn game, no incest, no underage stuff, and then add a dlc later that fixes those issues...

for the facepalm idiots, if you don't want to get paid for a game, do it as you please. But if you want police behind you, or other problems, like some of the games. And don't want any money from patreon. Then you are free to do as you please.

Of course it should be common sense
At this point making a vanilla game of any sort for money is mostly a waste of time, the market is just over saturated with people thinking they'll get rich quick and with the money vs effort it takes might as well get a real job. I think last year something like 8000 1-year-old regular games didn't even make their $100 listing fee back on Steam, so even vanilla porn and the restrictions that go with that is probably even worse (even if it passes Steam censors it still won't show up for sale in most countries where they can't legally sell it without asking for ID or where all porn is outright illegal).

At this point making your own damned site and payment system along with an AVN/game that has all the taboos people are actually willing to pay for with far less competition is the way to go. Of course this raises the entry fee more to small studio, not solo developer with just a bunch of time and a laptop (ie business loan like any other business if you are not at least well off to begin with). I mean even the illegal stuff does ok as it's still a multibillion $ industry (look how much Silk Road made in just 2 years, $5B, and that was just one guy, though selling all sorts of black market digital goods from other devs), if one is willing to do that and there's demand for it (that will always exist, illegal or not, as a whole all outlawing it does is raise prices, more risk = more reward).
 
At this point making a vanilla game of any sort for money is mostly a waste of time, the market is just over saturated with people thinking they'll get rich quick and with the money vs effort it takes might as well get a real job. I think last year something like 8000 1-year-old regular games didn't even make their $100 listing fee back on Steam, so even vanilla porn and the restrictions that go with that is probably even worse (even if it passes Steam censors it still won't show up for sale in most countries where they can't legally sell it without asking for ID or where all porn is outright illegal).

At this point making your own damned site and payment system along with an AVN/game that has all the taboos people are actually willing to pay for with far less competition is the way to go. Of course this raises the entry fee more to small studio, not solo developer with just a bunch of time and a laptop (ie business loan like any other business if you are not at least well off to begin with). I mean even the illegal stuff does ok as it's still a multibillion $ industry (look how much Silk Road made in just 2 years, $5B, and that was just one guy, though selling all sorts of black market digital goods from other devs), if one is willing to do that and there's demand for it (that will always exist, illegal or not, as a whole all outlawing it does is raise prices, more risk = more reward).

Yeh you're right. But making it loli will get you banned, so we never get to see the ending... Having a DLC fixes a lot. Like if the game my sister's devious plan, it started great, and the loli stuff could have been put in a DLC, it was an addon I believe on this site....

You have subscribestar, not sure about taboo's there, not sure about silk road, but I thought it didn't end well...
 
Yeh you're right. But making it loli will get you banned, so we never get to see the ending... Having a DLC fixes a lot. Like if the game my sister's devious plan, it started great, and the loli stuff could have been put in a DLC, it was an addon I believe on this site....

You have subscribestar, not sure about taboo's there, not sure about silk road, but I thought it didn't end well...
Well, Silk Road ultimately ended with a pardon and the gov't stealing his $5B, so mixed bag (lived like a king for 2 years at least). But it was his own fault he got caught in the first place as he got lazy and kept using the same physical library to manage his site so made it relatively easy for the gov't to catch him (not even a failsafe on his laptop he used that the gov't stole). Personally I would have lived in an RV while roaming all of the lower 48 and never used the same library twice, though I guess that's a somewhat predictable pattern in itself, so these days let AI randomly pick the next access point, ideally someone else's unencrypted or cracked wifi rather than libraries with cameras.
 
Well, Silk Road ultimately ended with a pardon and the gov't stealing his $5B, so mixed bag (lived like a king for 2 years at least). But it was his own fault he got caught in the first place as he got lazy and kept using the same physical library to manage his site so made it relatively easy for the gov't to catch him (not even a failsafe on his laptop he used that the gov't stole). Personally I would have lived in an RV while roaming all of the lower 48 and never used the same library twice, though I guess that's a somewhat predictable pattern in itself, so these days let AI randomly pick the next access point, ideally someone else's unencrypted or cracked wifi rather than libraries with cameras.

So you would have $5B, but not a nice house and family. Not a nice expensive car...

Why do you need that $5B. But then $5B for an AVN is probably a bit much, with or without incest/loli and other shit in it...
 
So you would have $5B, but not a nice house and family. Not a nice expensive car...

Why do you need that $5B. But then $5B for an AVN is probably a bit much, with or without incest/loli and other shit in it...
Retire and disappear (rather easy to do with that kind of resources for a new ID, as long as you stayed out of legal trouble after). Hell I'd do so after $50M or so, no one really needs $5B or the $30B Pablo Escobar had. Sure AVNs are prob not going to make that but SIlk Road sold everything illegal and kept a cut; porn, drugs, guns, assassin's services, etc; basically eBay for the shit you can't find on regular eBay. As far as AVNs Westy was making $30k a month from Proud Father, mainly just because it had lolis and incest and also was started when Covid left everyone stuck indoors, as the AVN itself was more or less just average in just about every metric like render quality or story. BHG probably similar until SS fucked him, but I'm sure it will eventually get back to that when he sets up his own site (probably what he should have done in the first place).
 
Retire and disappear (rather easy to do with that kind of resources for a new ID, as long as you stayed out of legal trouble after). Hell I'd do so after $50M or so, no one really needs $5B or the $30B Pablo Escobar had. Sure AVNs are prob not going to make that but SIlk Road sold everything illegal and kept a cut; porn, drugs, guns, assassin's services, etc; basically eBay for the shit you can't find on regular eBay. As far as AVNs Westy was making $30k a month from Proud Father, mainly just because it had lolis and incest and also was started when Covid left everyone stuck indoors, as the AVN itself was more or less just average in just about every metric like render quality or story. BHG probably similar until SS fucked him, but I'm sure it will eventually get back to that when he sets up his own site (probably what he should have done in the first place).

I was talking about the RV, if you like living in an RV, be my quest.

I don't like to live in an RV, I don't like to be alone in the middle of nowhere...

What is riches/money if you cannot spend it, and are always on the run from law enforcement?
 
I was talking about the RV, if you like living in an RV, be my quest.

I don't like to live in an RV, I don't like to be alone in the middle of nowhere...

What is riches/money if you cannot spend it, and are always on the run from law enforcement?
Alot of former drug dealers move to Rio in Brazil after retirement where a few million goes 7x farther than in the US. Some move elsewhere that has no extradition treaty with their former country. Ed Snowden simply moved to Russia after taking advantage of politics. Unlike in movies the so-called bad guys get happy endings too sometimes. The trick is to not get caught in the meantime, or at least until you are almost dead from old age anyway, like Bernard Madoff. $18B actually stolen, $3B unrecoverable/already spent over the previous 40 years or so, and only reason he was caught was because he turned himself in and still didn't even serve 10% of his sentence. I'd do a handstand in my own waste-deep shit for 12 years if the payoff was even 1% of that ($180M), so a retirement home with bars and a daily schedule would be a relative cakewalk. But unfortunately also unlike in movies such opportunities of that magnitude seldom present themselves, though I guess Bernie made his own opportunity.
 
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Alot of former drug dealers move to Rio in Brazil after retirement where a few million goes 7x farther than in the US. Some move elsewhere that has no extradition treaty with their former country. Ed Snowden simply moved to Russia after taking advantage of politics. Unlike in movies the so-called bad guys get happy endings too sometimes. The trick is to not get caught in the meantime, or at least until you are almost dead from old age anyway, like Bernard Madoff. $18B actually stolen, $3B unrecoverable/already spent over the previous 40 years or so, and only reason he was caught was because he turned himself in and still didn't even serve 10% of his sentence. I'd do a handstand in my own waste-deep shit for 12 years if the payoff was even 1% of that ($180M), so a retirement home with bars and a daily schedule would be a relative cakewalk. But unfortunately also unlike in movies such opportunities of that magnitude seldom present themselves, though I guess Bernie made his own opportunity.

Okay what I learned from this, is that I first go learn Spanish. And then suffer a hart attack when I found out they speak Portuguese in Rio. Well at least their Carnivals are lot nicer than here...

Not sure yeh about how to get those billions yet....

Just a few year in jail, and be set for the rest of your life, is nice too...
 
Yeah sorry, checked out fansly because I do want to support Seath -- but in my state they need to take a picture of me for "age verification". Kinda fuck that...
Dont even get me started on that shit. Im so sick of every single NSFW website asking me for a photo ID and having to take pictures of my face.... FUCK OFF
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Retire and disappear (rather easy to do with that kind of resources for a new ID, as long as you stayed out of legal trouble after). Hell I'd do so after $50M or so, no one really needs $5B or the $30B Pablo Escobar had. Sure AVNs are prob not going to make that but SIlk Road sold everything illegal and kept a cut; porn, drugs, guns, assassin's services, etc; basically eBay for the shit you can't find on regular eBay. As far as AVNs Westy was making $30k a month from Proud Father, mainly just because it had lolis and incest and also was started when Covid left everyone stuck indoors, as the AVN itself was more or less just average in just about every metric like render quality or story. BHG probably similar until SS fucked him, but I'm sure it will eventually get back to that when he sets up his own site (probably what he should have done in the first place).
How much do you think DrPinkCake made? Ik he didnt make any incest or loli games as far as I remember. But I do know he had one of the biggest AVNs at the time when I first started playing AVNs
 
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Dont even get me started on that shit. Im so sick of every single NSFW website asking me for a photo ID and having to take pictures of my face.... FUCK OFF
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How much do you think DrPinkCake made? Ik he didnt make any incest or loli games as far as I remember. But I do know he had one of the biggest AVNs at the time when I first started playing AVNs
No idea with DPK, but fairly certain the take-home pay is far below what most people assume. Steam eats 30%, taxes, electricity for rendering (not trivial, esp with rising kWH prices due to AI grid demand), a lot of his pay getting reinvested in marketing in various ways, paying his help, etc. After all that he probably doesn't make much more than the other top 10% or so devs that no one other than their original fan bases from 5-10 years ago has heard of since they don't bother with the marketing nearly as much (here's a hint: make it as rounchy and as controversial as possible = free marketing from the Streisand Effect, esp if illegal in Australia but legal in the US). I haven't played BaD in like 5 years, lost interest after the paths split 5-6 ways and too much unavoidable mini game shit (if I wanted to play a management game I wouldn't open an AVN), aside from lack of the kinks that make an AVN worthwhile.

What people forget is even vanilla Renpy AVNs and porn games are still a niche compared to, say, some non-porn RPG made in Unity or a shooter in Unreal and vanilla porn has way too much competition in that relatively small pie. Personally I only heard of AVNs after finding an old Daniels K AVN I forgot the name of back in 2015 (I think it was Imaginarium or something) when he was still fucking with RPGM while searching for regular porn on some other site (I think that was Luxure, but I forget) and finding some animations ripped from that and uploaded. 11 years later to me AVNs are now mostly boring and only good for fapping to shit that would get me arrested if it were real and vanilla is way too boring to keep me interested let alone pay for and with the loli and incest genres mostly drying up I've mostly just went back to real porn/Luxure.tv. until Blackheart releases something in Feb or so. A couple of others as well but those updates are probably March onward with everyone having to get day jobs thanks to Collective Karen.

Edit: for the ID shit just get a VPN and change locations, not everywhere has those stupid laws (that should be ignored by the whole damned internet the way copyright crap is). Fuck it, let the kids rub one out to porn too, better that than playing doctor with each other or getting each other pregnant.
 
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As far as I know there haven't been any annoucements yet, but I am not on their server anymore. Around 1 month ago they said that the update was almost finished, but seath has always been bad at giving estimates and now that he had to get a job, things will be a lot slower.
 
Is their situation really fucked? Cant he just get donations from that Fansly account he made?
 
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