discussion Opinions on AI stuff?

[Vulky]

One of the problem with AI generated images, at the moment, is the fact that you cannot generate a sequence of images using the exact same scenario, because the background goes random every time. If you just change a bit of the character description, it will change also the rest of the image.
Then there are weird results with hands, feets, heels that until now are still hard to make it right.
The problem is that AI generated content is already polluting the Web, confused with real images. So the future training models will probably be feeded with bad images, and the quality will decrease. Also many people seem to already have difficulties guessing if an image is true or CGI, that is a problem for the future when the artificial ones will be more realistic.

 

[Shawnchapp]

One of the problem with AI generated images, at the moment, is the fact that you cannot generate a sequence of images using the exact same scenario,

yes you can.... thats what img2img is for in the generator also thats what "seeds" are for...

 

[azur]

Great analysis by XCIX99


AI has its limitations. It is not alive. It is not sentient. But, it mimics how we think, and so it will feel so alive and feel so real that we will experience technology in a way that will be like entering another realm. Its as if we are making our own multiverse. Is that a good thing? I don't know, but I know its a great thing and great things are sometimes terrible things.

 

[Fall12Dr]

It is a complex issue. I like what can be done with it, but it is true that in the future it will lend itself to putting an end to the work of many people.

 

[XCIX99]

100% generative text is so useful for coding, typesetting etc. The golden rule is 'dont use code you dont understand' I reckon, otherwise youre setting your future self for disaster.

But also I mostly meant AI porn oops

Yeah, the porn stuff is hit and miss. The next big challenge to overcome is keeping the characters and scenes consistent in image after image. When that happens it will be a big step. One thing I wonder about, if I am alone in this, is that some of the ai images are too perfect. Will we want millions of porn with "perfect" women in them or will we discover that porn is more enjoyable if its of women we could actually meet in our lives? I think I like the ones with ladies I could meet, but don't know if that is just me. Still, seriously, though, some of the faces on the AI images, whatever deep learning it went through, shows a face that is exactly what I would imagine as perfection.

 

[Vulky]

yes you can.... thats what img2img is for in the generator also thats what "seeds" are for...

The results are not comparable at all with a rendered ambient, where every object has the same location in each picture. You cannot precisely pose a character or create a homogeneous sequence. Post a sequence of images that you think are acceptable and we'll see.

 

[Shawnchapp]

The results are not comparable at all with a rendered ambient, where every object has the same location in each picture. You cannot precisely pose a character or create a homogeneous sequence. Post a sequence of images that you think are acceptable and we'll see.

i don;'t have to prove anything you're very unfamiliar with AI and it shows. , you don't know the different plugin you don't know about controlnet (which allows posing) didn't even know you can renderer the same img 100 times and get the same results or just changing the colour of the person hair..
you think im going to boot up SD and spent an hour rendering some pictures to prove you wrong? no thanks you can use google and research it yourself.

 

[jhnd]

I will just say that the implementation of AI in the future art is inevitable cause it lets you cut corners and time constrains, maybe at the moment the technology haves some issues but we all know that when it is perfected it will be nigh unstoppable.
I agree that for AI to advance it had to learn from the art made before but I'm pretty sure it will reach a point where it will learn from their past work and won't need to learn from human art anymore.

 

[cucumber3620]

Constraints and rules on them are too lax right now. i feel like for it to be accepted, that has to change first.

 

[Dumblikeox]

One of the problem with AI generated images, at the moment, is the fact that you cannot generate a sequence of images using the exact same scenario, because the background goes random every time. If you just change a bit of the character description, it will change also the rest of the image.
Then there are weird results with hands, feets, heels that until now are still hard to make it right.
The problem is that AI generated content is already polluting the Web, confused with real images. So the future training models will probably be feeded with bad images, and the quality will decrease. Also many people seem to already have difficulties guessing if an image is true or CGI, that is a problem for the future when the artificial ones will be more realistic.

there are hashes, and seeds (like minecraft) that lock a result in place. You can then work within those parameters, to change aspects of the image, like posture, facial expressions, and outfits. Alternatively, there are inpaint options similar to masks in PS to also change one feature or another.

 

[hubb58s]

What are you're opinions on AI generated porn? Personally, I'm finding it incredibly frustrating. The images themselves look okay, and I find the tech interesting, but I feel like they all look basically the same.

Feels like the internet is rotting, and it's becoming harder to sift through it all.

feel like it will get better with time.

 

[sbeve_helied]

feel like it will get better with time.

One of the big problems I am wondering about is AI learning from other AI. Does anyone know how they choose data to learn from? Right now I'd imagine most of the data is hand drawn/photo/cg, but with how quick AI can be i do wonder how long it will be before that changes

 

[sbeve_helied]

Constraints and rules on them are too lax right now. i feel like for it to be accepted, that has to change first.

It is such a hard thing to restrict though. And the law will always lag years if not decades behind, it has barely caught up with the internet in most places

 

[MOCO9559]

I saw some good art done from AI but so far I am not too woried that it will "replace" all the hard working creators. I assume it will have its own place along all the other created content and that is fine with me.

 

[User_89876]

we don't let the AI do all the work. We say we are humans using a tool called AI.

Nice writeup. 100% agree

And just like with other tools it is garbage in, garbage out if you don't put effort in.

I see AI used in our company all over the place, everyone trying to figure out how to make use of it.

Management uses it to polish their company mails, creating extremely long texts. Staff uses it to summarize those management mails, to get the content out of all that bla bla.

But fact is that you shouldn't trust it blindly. Neither text generation, nor transcripts nor summaries.

 

[Vulky]

there are hashes, and seeds (like minecraft) that lock a result in place. You can then work within those parameters, to change aspects of the image, like posture, facial expressions, and outfits. Alternatively, there are inpaint options similar to masks in PS to also change one feature or another.

But you cannot place the POV in a different angle and still have the same background, just viewed from a different perpective. The tools you have with a 3D software are simply not there. So AI has got no understanding of the volumes, and if you freeze the background it ceases to "interact" with the main subject (that is usually just one because dealing with multiple figures is still a mess).

 

[SMBD]

What are you're opinions on AI generated porn? Personally, I'm finding it incredibly frustrating. The images themselves look okay, and I find the tech interesting, but I feel like they all look basically the same.

Feels like the internet is rotting, and it's becoming harder to sift through it all.

I never saw AI porn yet (at least I think so ) Only place where I see AI photos are ads.

 

[arget]

I think it's great for personal use but not for posting.

 

[gargar]

Like every tools. It can be very useful for the dev. But it’s not the only thing. Too much AI will kill AI

 

[Flaming1]

It's fun to play with, I don't take it seriously as yet, but am having a blast playing around.