discussion LewdCorner Policy Update: Photorealistic AI Images Are No Longer Allowed

[Montimer]

Kinda liked how you repeated same thing over and over again, to really hammer your point down. Granted, one can make an easy point about modern DAZ being quite photorealistic, especially with some AI work thrown on top, which will in turn put some prominent loli games in a very funky situation, were they will be essentially above the "no photorealism law".

Nah. DAZ is nowhere near level of actual photorealism. You can make an argument, sure. But in the end it isn't nowhere near what AI is capable of producing.

Admins did the right thing. People will be pissy but it's easy for them to be in that position when they are taking zero risks, when they dont have their finances connected to the site and don't have the pressure of being criticized by the very community they're giving safe haven to.

 

[V&M]

In other words, all that will remain is AI garbage, uncreative, generic, and extremely artificial images.

 

[i_patchy]

Nah. DAZ is nowhere near level of actual photorealism. You can make an argument, sure. But in the end it isn't nowhere near what AI is capable of producing.

- yeah. But to quote OP: Photorealistic AI images, Semi-photorealistic AI images, Borderline realistic AI images that try to imitate real-life visuals. Not to mention, that you can throw an AI over already quite good DAZ models to get in to that "grey area".

Admins did the right thing. People will be pissy but it's easy for them to be in that position when they are taking zero risks, when they dont have their finances connected to the site and don't have the pressure of being criticized by the very community they're giving safe haven to.

- im not arguing about right or wrong, im pointing obvious issue. Issue that will become even more prevalent with time. As im sure, that DAZ will not stop improving suddenly. It would be better, if OP had examples of "realism" levels for clarity.

 

[Montimer]

- yeah. But to quote OP: Photorealistic AI images, Semi-photorealistic AI images, Borderline realistic AI images that try to imitate real-life visuals. Not to mention, that you can throw an AI over already quite good DAZ models to get in to that "grey area".

But... DAZ isn't really AI though. It's models made in 3D software with no ties to being trained on potentially harmful imagery.
If someone decides to pull a DLSS 5 on DAZ models, it's on them really tbh. Then they're gray area.
DAZ models, even newer ones, are fine.

- im not arguing about right or wrong, im pointing obvious issue. Issue that will become even more prevalent with time. As im sure, that DAZ will not stop improving suddenly. It would be better, if OP had examples of "realism" levels for clarity.

To me personally, it's clear as a day. Don't post images that look really realistic or border realism. I do agree though that some visual examples would be nice for people who are unsure. At the same time, if you're unsure... just don't post it.

 

[i_patchy]

But... DAZ isn't really AI though. It's models made in 3D software with no ties to being trained on potentially harmful imagery.

- this is besides point, the issue isnt AI. The issue is "realism". There are no need to train anything, when you put AI filters on top of generated 3D image of hot loli action. Just take one of ALDERZAL's All That Slimy Lust That Halfchuds Think Love Is type of games as example. Loli fucking is already there, you essentially just improve textures with AI tools. Tools, that are by the way already there in the package. Just think of that recent NVIDIA Resident Evil demonstration. It is extremely "grey area".

DAZ models, even newer ones, are fine.

- for now. But compare how they looked 10 years ago and how they look now, The point is when the goals will move next time.

To me personally, it's clear as a day. Don't post images that look really realistic or border realism. I do agree though that some visual examples would be nice for people who are unsure. At the same time, if you're unsure... just don't post it.

- thats how they get you. LC started by exiles from C95, but now it is slowly creeping in here. This is also a potential issue now.

 

[chester1530]

So would a hyperrealistic photo of two platypuses making love be prohibited?

Just kidding, I totally agree and support these rules, in these times, you can't play with one's freedom, literally...

 

[Montimer]

- this is besides point, the issue isnt AI. The issue is "realism". There are no need to train anything, when you put AI filters on top of generated 3D image of hot loli action. Just take one of ALDERZAL's All That Slimy Lust That Halfchuds Think Love Is type of games as example. Loli fucking is already there, you essentially just improve textures with AI tools. Tools, that are by the way already there in the package. Just think of that recent NVIDIA Resident Evil demonstration. It is extremely "grey area".

Thank you but I'd like my 3D porn games without the slop filter.

- for now. But compare how they looked 10 years ago and how they look now, The point is when the goals will move next time.

10 years from now LC might not even exist. 10 years from now maybe in order to browse the internet you'd need to have full ID verification. Who knows.
I don't disagree that the bar for what's allowed goes up and things get left in dirt...
But some people are just being ridiculous. They argue that any image that isn't as close to an actual thing is worthless. Which by itself is... quite questionable thing to say.

- thats how they get you. LC started by exiles from C95, but now it is slowly creeping in here. This is also a potential issue now.

Sure. I do think that LC has its place though. It's a mirror site to F 9 5. Except here allowed things are way more lenient.Alternatively the site serves as place where people who are fed up with 95 come to be part of different community.
Not to speak of the fact that the site serves as another game archive.

Regardless, Im glad LC exists and what it does for its protection is justified. More so when it comes to content that's actually bordering reality.

 

[SmilingJack4]

Absolutely sensible decision. Even if everything realistic was watermarked, now you'd have aasshole putting the watermark on illegal stuff to try and get away with it. This site is for the games+, it doesn't need to do more.

 

[MattShizzle]

dont care LC is for games not images.

So why not just get rid of the whole image section then?

 

[RushdiaAhmad74]

how do we know ? almost all A.I look photorealistic at this point , this mean no more A,I Lolis?

 

[Montimer]

how do we know ? almost all A.I look photorealistic at this point , this mean no more A,I Lolis?

Huh? What kind of sites do you visit that all you see is photorealism? There's TONS of styles out there that are far away from the photorealism.

No, it means no more photorealistic lolis that look like actual, real life kids.

 

[Azuma Ayame]

I guess my creations was one of the reasons to this
I'm sorry and hope I didn't too much damage. Anyways, it's done now, not posting any of that anymore.
Thanks to the people that appreciated the creations

 

[232d34832HHJ]

okay anyways

 

[PharcalsusEngine]

About time.

 

[Lizzy]

It's a rule I agree with.

If in doubt don't post it.

 

[drpslvt]

Although disappointing it does makes sense from a legal point.

 

[Nicest_Incest]

Well, nothing is simple in the beginning. Luke you say, its not difficult, and yes, just like anything new, it involves lot of fussing round. Its part of process. I mean, all the fuss about LC banning it is ridiculous IMO. Its banned so that's the final. Time for people to just accept it and move forward. This saga has gone one for probably 2 or so years now. Finally the nonsense is ended. We can all enjoy the rest of LC.

Plus, like the owner said, this is games site and was never supposed be for art. (We do need more games. I'd love to see more games)

Hmm, the rest of LC: main vanilla games = Fuck95 far superior, Games + = outside less than a dozen that update once a year or less and a few left that update every 3-4 months what's left? Pretty much barren wasteland.

 

[Jack Of Blades]

Hmm, the rest of LC: main vanilla games = Fuck95 far superior, Games + = outside less than a dozen that update once a year or less and a few left that update every 3-4 months what's left? Pretty much barren wasteland.

cool story go bitch elsewhere on it.

 

[Montimer]

Hmm, the rest of LC: main vanilla games = Fuck95 far superior, Games + = outside less than a dozen that update once a year or less and a few left that update every 3-4 months what's left? Pretty much barren wasteland.

95 is the "main" site for adult games. Nobody can legitimately deny it. However what happens with these sites is that they get overly bloated. Big site like that becomes a target. Meaning lot of games get taken down for example.

It's always great to have a secondary site. Alternative or primary site - doesn't matter. One that links to the games, yet doesn't share the size of the mirror site. So when something happens, people flock here.
On top of the fact that LC has actual library of "forbidden" western games and fair few asian ones. Doesn't really matter if they get updated or not.
They're still there. If you're a new guy and you stumble upon the games+, you're going to have months upon months of content to get through.

Where more grizzled members wait for the updates or new games. There's couple but it's better than nothing.

 

[CubbyBuddy]

I was personally never a fan of realistic AI but it's def a liability thing. How does one tell the difference between a realistic AI image and something that is actually illegal, especially with models improving by the day? Nothing will get the FBI breaking down your door faster than being suspected of having actual CSAM, so it's definitely a CYA thing.