discussion VN Ren'Py [Koikatsu] Insexual Awakening 2 Love and Learn [v0.6 Alpha] [Team Cyber HexXx]

[ramvivat]

hello!
in the early updates, there was a pregnant content - Rosa with a belly and MC's mother who was supposedly pregnant. and I'm wondering - has this part been removed from the game? has it been made as if MC didn't make Rosa pregnant and didn't "plant a parasite" in his mother either? does anyone know anything about this, or should I just replay the game myself?

 

[zesergeant]

hello!
in the early updates, there was a pregnant content - Rosa with a belly and MC's mother who was supposedly pregnant. and I'm wondering - has this part been removed from the game? has it been made as if MC didn't make Rosa pregnant and didn't "plant a parasite" in his mother either? does anyone know anything about this, or should I just replay the game myself?

I did a freshie from the last update (0.57?), you can still knock up Mom, Rose and

Spoiler

Alex. Iirc Alex isn't "showing" yet though

 

[zesergeant]

Just finished the "main content" of the latest update. I am a bit... miffed. Content wasn't BAD, but..

Spoiler: Spoiler for 0.6 Jenny

Having that great build-up with Jenny, where you talk about - and going to the con - was nice. Also Robin being a bit protective seems strange - considering everything, and her having a baby bump lol - but moms gonna mom, I guess.
Con was decent, and the panel scene was kinda funny I have to admit.
The last part of it... was not. Having to hear that Jenny has a boyfriend in a harem game like that was not very nice. Considering her age, I'm guessing they're "active" too, unless she's a kissless virgin (I FUCKING PRAY), kind of ruins her for me to be honest...

 

[Fistyfriends]

Just finished the "main content" of the latest update. I am a bit... miffed. Content wasn't BAD, but..

Spoiler: Spoiler for 0.6 Jenny

Having that great build-up with Jenny, where you talk about - and going to the con - was nice. Also Robin being a bit protective seems strange - considering everything, and her having a baby bump lol - but moms gonna mom, I guess.
Con was decent, and the panel scene was kinda funny I have to admit.
The last part of it... was not. Having to hear that Jenny has a boyfriend in a harem game like that was not very nice. Considering her age, I'm guessing they're "active" too, unless she's a kissless virgin (I FUCKING PRAY), kind of ruins her for me to be honest...

Spoiler: Fuck this grind

To not have a little content with Jenny by now is fucking lame, but to also hear hint of an NTR situation is infuriating at this point!!
I fear the Devs going public release also means this game is going to get even more grindy while taking less chances.
I just wanted to see that teen girl bang that little school boy instead of his mannish mom, a saggy old milf or his boyish looking classmate, is that so wrong?
Could the boy just please fuck somebody CUTE! by now? Shit like this keeps me from subscribing like I do with a handful of other games. I hate the direction these devs continue to go in when they have so much potential.

 

[zesergeant]

Spoiler: Fuck this grind

To not have a little content with Jenny by now is fucking lame, but to also hear hint of an NTR situation is infuriating at this point!!
I fear the Devs going public release also means this game is going to get even more grindy while taking less chances.
I just wanted to see that teen girl bang that little school boy instead of his mannish mom, a saggy old milf or his boyish looking classmate, is that so wrong?
Could the boy just please fuck somebody CUTE! by now? Shit like this keeps me from subscribing like I do with a handful of other games. I hate the direction these devs continue to go in when they have so much potential.

Spoiler: Yeah...

If you grind, it is meh. So I recommend using the cheats. Just max out all the stats, and then don't think about it anymore. The sandbox is easy to understand, so I don't mind that either.
While I don't mind the other LIs in this game (Rose is a bit "vanilla" - or should I say "basic chocolate" lol), but the rest I really dig.
The mom is kind of tomboy-ish, but it's the taboo-part of it (plus the bush) that makes her for me. Alex I really like, a true tomboy (made a bit androgynous for the gay/not gay choice), but I'm straight, so I've never even thought about looking at the 'other side'.

But yeah, Jenny was the first adult, but not mature, or mature-ish LI (apart from Sabrina, who I imagine is the first and maybe only hebe in the game), but she hasn't gotten anything at all since her introduction.
If they are setting up any kind of unavoidable NTR with Jenny, it will tank the game. But if that is the case, I'm guessing it's just the fucking whales that "support" the game and wanted to push that in, like they do or try to do with every harem game they can. Just stick to the fucking NTR-oriented games, and leave the rest alone, ffs PLEASE.

Like I said, though, I really don't hope that Jenny says it's not her first time. She's young enough, and 'weird' enough to be a virgin, maybe not kissless, but still a virgin. Mature LIs are harder to defend, but not impossible - unless they have kids and you want to keep it somewhat realistic.
If it's just a netori situation, where you take Jenny, I don't mind it, as long as she's pure. If it's forced to go either sharing, or she's cheating (which I know, is not textbook, but to me it would count as NTR) - even for a little while because she's "confused about her feelings for the MC", it would completely ruin one of the more unique LIs in this game.
She would be cheapened, and just another trash female character in a porn game.

If, however, she's a kissless virgin, and just need to come to terms with her "immoral" feelings for such a young boy, and it naturally just takes more time, I would be satisfied. I don't need the rush, even though I want her (for now...). It would make her one of the sweetest, and most interesting LIs in this game - up until this point, and unless they add more in the future, ofc.
I just really hope they don't go the NTR/sharing bullshit disgusting route, or that she's "shy and awkward but really loves fucking".

Goddamn this update ended on a sour note for me because of the uncertainty.

ETA: It's also things like this that makes me insanely hesitant to ever support any dev without a proven track record. This game up until now has been damn good, even with a few flaws.
Right of the palm of my hand, the only dev that has a just positive track record for me is a certain man that is building a village, but for currently now is living with an "Older Relative in Her House".

 

[captain_hamhog]

No other way to download the game? They seem uhm well? Not so safe.

 

[Matm95]

Development is quite slow huh. This patch seems like a nothingburger, so ill wait another 6 months.

 

[TMc4ll1st3r]

No other way to download the game? They seem uhm well? Not so safe.

Those are the original links the devs have for the game, so I would say that's the safest way to get the game

 

[skyeblossom]

I like this game, but after you catch up to the most recent content you may as well forget about it for a couple years, so you have more than 5 mins of content.

 

[jkj34]

Development is quite slow huh. This patch seems like a nothingburger, so ill wait another 6 months.

DO not forget they were part of the censorship sweep just be glad its still in development.

 

[Matm95]

True, but its still slow.

DO not forget they were part of the censorship sweep just be glad its still in development.

 

[Dingelbarry]

Based on the comments, is it worth getting?

 

[zesergeant]

Based on the comments, is it worth getting?

If you like shota and loli, yes.
The only red flag (so far) like I wrote yesterday, is the latest update and the character called Jenny.
Just use cheats to max the stats, the grind is not worth it.

 

[zesergeant]

So I had a discussion with someone in a place where everyone is in "Lucifer's camp".
We had some disagreements, and some agreements. But he brought up a point about the end of the latest update, that I'd thought I'd swing here.

Spoiler: Jenny Againny

He argued that Jenny could have been lying about the boyfriend, and only using the two tickets and excuse of "oh the other person who was supposed to come with me couldn't", just to kind of 'guilt trip' or 'incentivize' the MC to join her instead ("oh woe is me, it sucks so bad having to go alone! saddest of faces (( ".
Now my counter to this, is that she does not say to Robin (who kind of pinged her for a kiddie lover at the mall), but she said it after the 'date' to the MC, and that's where we leave it.
From what the other user said, the devs don't want any NTR, or netorase. Netori would be on deck if she HAS a boyfriend, no getting around that. Unless she just goes "yeah we're done, bye".

So what do you guys think? Is there hope for Jenny being a kissless virgin, or is it just cope?

 

[jkj34]

So I had a discussion with someone in a place where everyone is in "Lucifer's camp".
We had some disagreements, and some agreements. But he brought up a point about the end of the latest update, that I'd thought I'd swing here.

Spoiler: Jenny Againny

He argued that Jenny could have been lying about the boyfriend, and only using the two tickets and excuse of "oh the other person who was supposed to come with me couldn't", just to kind of 'guilt trip' or 'incentivize' the MC to join her instead ("oh woe is me, it sucks so bad having to go alone! saddest of faces (( ".
Now my counter to this, is that she does not say to Robin (who kind of pinged her for a kiddie lover at the mall), but she said it after the 'date' to the MC, and that's where we leave it.
From what the other user said, the devs don't want any NTR, or netorase. Netori would be on deck if she HAS a boyfriend, no getting around that. Unless she just goes "yeah we're done, bye".

So what do you guys think? Is there hope for Jenny being a kissless virgin, or is it just cope?

She could have been dumped last minute and the mc is the rebound

 

[bribes]

Spoiler: Yeah...

If you grind, it is meh. So I recommend using the cheats. Just max out all the stats, and then don't think about it anymore. The sandbox is easy to understand, so I don't mind that either.
While I don't mind the other LIs in this game (Rose is a bit "vanilla" - or should I say "basic chocolate" lol), but the rest I really dig.
The mom is kind of tomboy-ish, but it's the taboo-part of it (plus the bush) that makes her for me. Alex I really like, a true tomboy (made a bit androgynous for the gay/not gay choice), but I'm straight, so I've never even thought about looking at the 'other side'.

But yeah, Jenny was the first adult, but not mature, or mature-ish LI (apart from Sabrina, who I imagine is the first and maybe only hebe in the game), but she hasn't gotten anything at all since her introduction.
If they are setting up any kind of unavoidable NTR with Jenny, it will tank the game. But if that is the case, I'm guessing it's just the fucking whales that "support" the game and wanted to push that in, like they do or try to do with every harem game they can. Just stick to the fucking NTR-oriented games, and leave the rest alone, ffs PLEASE.

Like I said, though, I really don't hope that Jenny says it's not her first time. She's young enough, and 'weird' enough to be a virgin, maybe not kissless, but still a virgin. Mature LIs are harder to defend, but not impossible - unless they have kids and you want to keep it somewhat realistic.
If it's just a netori situation, where you take Jenny, I don't mind it, as long as she's pure. If it's forced to go either sharing, or she's cheating (which I know, is not textbook, but to me it would count as NTR) - even for a little while because she's "confused about her feelings for the MC", it would completely ruin one of the more unique LIs in this game.
She would be cheapened, and just another trash female character in a porn game.

If, however, she's a kissless virgin, and just need to come to terms with her "immoral" feelings for such a young boy, and it naturally just takes more time, I would be satisfied. I don't need the rush, even though I want her (for now...). It would make her one of the sweetest, and most interesting LIs in this game - up until this point, and unless they add more in the future, ofc.
I just really hope they don't go the NTR/sharing bullshit disgusting route, or that she's "shy and awkward but really loves fucking".

Goddamn this update ended on a sour note for me because of the uncertainty.

ETA: It's also things like this that makes me insanely hesitant to ever support any dev without a proven track record. This game up until now has been damn good, even with a few flaws.
Right of the palm of my hand, the only dev that has a just positive track record for me is a certain man that is building a village, but for currently now is living with an "Older Relative in Her House".

Game was originally "straight shota" devs own take on the game they wanted to make. I remember many at the start saying that was why they suported the project as it was one of the few straight shota games as most had gay content. Community presser was what had tracy added originally "hidden", but at that time I was already wandering how you could say you wanted to make a striate anything game with "optional" gay content at that point you are just making a shota game. fast forward a few years tracy went from being hidden in the game where outside of the changelog you had to be on there discord and, or know how to unlock the character to that character is now part of the banner image.

The point I am getting at is that gay was something the dev said themselves was originally not going to happeon people joined, and supported some for that very reason, but that changed. It did not matter what those against the switch cared about the decision.

Ultimately it is there project and they will do what they want to do with it, but if I wanted to support an idea I felt I could get behind what is the point if the idea can change at any given point. Just as if I was supporting a yuri only game, and the dev tossed in some optional straight content. It is one thing if your game is just a (female protagonist) game, but if you say your are making a yuri only game, have people join based on that fact, and know many say that is one of the main reasons they support your game. To bait and switch to me is disingenuous.

People of course support what they like, but people often are wiling to spend more then they usually will for a narrow niche as they are rarer. Straight shota is a narrower niche then a shota game, and while mainly straight it is no longer a straight shota game. The same as a yuri only game is not the same as a mostly yuri game.

So where is the devs true limits on where they will go. A dev that will not change there stance will not change there stance, but one that will do it once , well why can they not do it again.

 

[zesergeant]

Game was originally "straight shota" devs own take on the game they wanted to make. I remember many at the start saying that was why they suported the project as it was one of the few straight shota games as most had gay content. Community presser was what had tracy added originally "hidden", but at that time I was already wandering how you could say you wanted to make a striate anything game with "optional" gay content at that point you are just making a shota game. fast forward a few years tracy went from being hidden in the game where outside of the changelog you had to be on there discord and, or know how to unlock the character to that character is now part of the banner image.

The point I am getting at is that gay was something the dev said themselves was originally not going to happeon people joined, and supported some for that very reason, but that changed. It did not matter what those against the switch cared about the decision.

Ultimately it is there project and they will do what they want to do with it, but if I wanted to support an idea I felt I could get behind what is the point if the idea can change at any given point. Just as if I was supporting a yuri only game, and the dev tossed in some optional straight content. It is one thing if your game is just a (female protagonist) game, but if you say your are making a yuri only game, have people join based on that fact, and know many say that is one of the main reasons they support your game. To bait and switch to me is disingenuous.

People of course support what they like, but people often are wiling to spend more then they usually will for a narrow niche as they are rarer. Straight shota is a narrower niche then a shota game, and while mainly straight it is no longer a straight shota game. The same as a yuri only game is not the same as a mostly yuri game.

So where is the devs true limits on where they will go. A dev that will not change there stance will not change there stance, but one that will do it once , well why can they not do it again.

While I see your point, I will say though they did make it so you can avoid other dicks (for now). If you say Alex is a girl, then there are nothing more to it.
I understand though that walking back on it in some way is also a blow to the trust, I do.

But yeah, I've played insanely few Shota games, because it's usually - like you said - gay stuff, and I really don't like that.
Yuri games I barely touch either, but that's mostly because unless there's some crazy good story in it, like top tier, it gets boring to me. Like most other pervs, I like to see a good old clam fight, or girls 69ing, but if "I" can't fuck them, it just feels like there's no stakes? Danger? Like pregnancy or something hotter, or whatever.

I'm just holding out hope for now. As the next update doesn't seem to feature Jenny, so that means either a small continuation (no scenes, just talking) with her, or nothing with her until at least 2 updates.

What I'm saying is, I hope I get the red velvet cake I wanted, without discovering that the proverbial baker took a shit in the centre of it.

 

[bribes]

While I see your point, I will say though they did make it so you can avoid other dicks (for now). If you say Alex is a girl, then there are nothing more to it.
I understand though that walking back on it in some way is also a blow to the trust, I do.

But yeah, I've played insanely few Shota games, because it's usually - like you said - gay stuff, and I really don't like that.
Yuri games I barely touch either, but that's mostly because unless there's some crazy good story in it, like top tier, it gets boring to me. Like most other pervs, I like to see a good old clam fight, or girls 69ing, but if "I" can't fuck them, it just feels like there's no stakes? Danger? Like pregnancy or something hotter, or whatever.

I'm just holding out hope for now. As the next update doesn't seem to feature Jenny, so that means either a small continuation (no scenes, just talking) with her, or nothing with her until at least 2 updates.

What I'm saying is, I hope I get the red velvet cake I wanted, without discovering that the proverbial baker took a shit in the centre of it.

While it has been a while since I have been on there discord, from the early days they had always said Alex was a girl, and a tomboy that just did not like dressing as a girl. That, and that they did not want to go the tomboy to girly path that is often done. The only character they had that was at the time of my last following there progress was the blond in the skirt with striped leggings. Virtually a revers Alex in a way.

Hopefully Your velvet cake will stay just velvet cake.

 

[Daddums]

So I had a discussion with someone in a place where everyone is in "Lucifer's camp".
We had some disagreements, and some agreements. But he brought up a point about the end of the latest update, that I'd thought I'd swing here.

Spoiler: Jenny Againny

He argued that Jenny could have been lying about the boyfriend, and only using the two tickets and excuse of "oh the other person who was supposed to come with me couldn't", just to kind of 'guilt trip' or 'incentivize' the MC to join her instead ("oh woe is me, it sucks so bad having to go alone! saddest of faces (( ".
Now my counter to this, is that she does not say to Robin (who kind of pinged her for a kiddie lover at the mall), but she said it after the 'date' to the MC, and that's where we leave it.
From what the other user said, the devs don't want any NTR, or netorase. Netori would be on deck if she HAS a boyfriend, no getting around that. Unless she just goes "yeah we're done, bye".

So what do you guys think? Is there hope for Jenny being a kissless virgin, or is it just cope?

Spoiler: Jenny Theory

It's also possible she may have misconstrued the relationship regarding her alleged boyfriend. She says she's awkward with people her own age and may have just been ghosted. I don't think she ever named the friend with Robin to legitimize her story, either, but we'll see. I don't see her lying about stuff to guilt the MC when even in her internal thoughts she's not sure she should be doing any of this.

 

[Freyr059]

How do we progress with Jenny, I still am on level 1 and I don't find her anywhere?