discussion VN Ren'Py DAZ Found in Translation [0.19] [Gadgeteer]

[ramvivat]

1 regarding girls' names - yes, there is a name Aila (Ailya, Aylya) in Tatarstan or Bashkortostan, as well as in Kazakhstan. But the name Kitka is not represented in the Russian Federation.
Perhaps this is the name Kat'ka, that is, Katerina, Ekaterina, (Katherine if in European).
And the name Kitka - we don't have such a name.

2 regarding "роговой"(horny) - pfhahaha oh my god, it's just blood from the eyes hahaha
no, we don't use such a word. completelly!
And we don't even use the word "horny" in relation to sex. sorry but NO! =)
We use the word "стояк"(stoyak, hard-on, boner) - in relation to men. ONLY.
And for women it's "flowed"("потекла") .
no universal (for man and woman) horny-word in Russia. sorry.
You should have a consultant on Russian colloquial speech in your team for this project.

 

[Nastastic]

1 regarding girls' names - yes, there is a name Aila (Ailya, Aylya) in Tatarstan or Bashkortostan, as well as in Kazakhstan. But the name Kitka is not represented in the Russian Federation.
Perhaps this is the name Kat'ka, that is, Katerina, Ekaterina, (Katherine if in European).
And the name Kitka - we don't have such a name.

2 regarding "роговой"(horny) - pfhahaha oh my god, it's just blood from the eyes hahaha
no, we don't use such a word. completelly!
And we don't even use the word "horny" in relation to sex. sorry but NO! =)
We use the word "стояк"(stoyak, hard-on, boner) - in relation to men. ONLY.
And for women it's "flowed"("потекла") .
no universal (for man and woman) horny-word in Russia. sorry.
You should have a consultant on Russian colloquial speech in your team for this project.

Google Translate working through my phone's camera translates Kitka as "Friction".

 

[AndyOTR]

no universal (for man and woman) horny-word in Russia. sorry.

You are wrong. There is a universal word "возбуждённый", which applies to both sexes.

Emotionally "возбуждённая" - excited.
Sexually "возбуждённая" - horny.

 

[ramvivat]

You are wrong. There is a universal word "возбуждённый", which applies to both sexes.

Emotionally "возбуждённая" - excited.
Sexually "возбуждённая" - horny.

to begin with, let's define the concepts. we're talking about Russians.

1 a close circle of people - you know me, I know you
2 (there's an even closer circle of people - we drank together)
3 there's an even closer circle - we fucked.
4 a non-close circle of people - everyone else.

for a NOT close circle of people - a girl simply won't share information about herself about her emotional or physical state - it's indecent and speaks of bad manners - it's the same as a girl lifting her skirt in front of strangers. I think this applies to your society too, am I right?
the word "excited" is never applicable to the person saying this word, but always about someone.
oh yeah, of course, I constantly hear this word in the porn series Casting Couch x that the girl is excited - but that's porn, I'm sorry, it's an indecent genre, it's indecent for a girl who considers herself a decent girl to talk about herself what she is excited.
(especially since Kitka had a fight with Kira where she said that she is not a whore to anyone - Kitka considers herself a decent girl)
in a close circle of acquaintances or with whom you drank or even fucked - you can even obscenely say everything you want to say ... and it is acceptable to say it in different ways.
but - that is a close circle, or even a circle of close friends, where a lot of things are acceptable.

but still the word "horny" is a man's word, forgive me, well, the girl does not have a horn between her legs! =)) It would never occur to a Russian girl to say something like that.
leaked (or something like that)? - yes, as many words and expressions as you like associated with a wet cavity - and this will be a more or less correct expression, close to what a Russian girl will say about herself in a close or even intimate circle of friends.
but for a girl to say about herself that she has an erect penis? God forbid, haha, this is even worse than lifting your skirt in front of strangers and saying you're a whore. =)

Please hear me out =)

 

[Gadgeteer]

I've gone through a couple Russian speaking consultants, but they have lives and this is just a game, so they move on. I've already adjusted the phrasing for the future based on advice from the person helping with the full Russian translation.

The girls names are from places other than Russia. Just because they speak Russian, doesn't mean that is their origin. I think Kitka's name is Bulgarian? Ajla (with the original spelling) is Turkish originally, but is common in Serbia, Bosnia and Herzegovina. I changed the spelling for a reason lost to time(honestly it coulda have been a typo in my original notes and I just never noticed).

The kitten's exact origin is purposefully obfuscated because it doesn't really matter for the story. Same as why I've never specified what country MC is from. In your head-canon, if you want them to be Russian, I'm okay with that. Explain the strange names away with something like, "They had hippies for parents."

 

[jfive77]

My saves loaded fine.

How many saves did you try?
Did you try any of the Autosaves?

(And you do know that you can hold the CTRL key and skip through all of it in less than 10 minutes, right? All you have to do is take the green choice at each place it stops for a menu. I did this to test the mod and the new version, it worked perfectly.)

I wasn't worried about how long it takes to get back. it'd be pretty quick, i was just letting you know. and yes i tried multiple saves...none of which were autosaves though. I tried multiple saves with no mods installed and they all worked fine, then added the walkthrough and suddenly they wouldn't work. If the error isn't reproduceable don't worry about it. I use URM all the time to so i can usually figure out what the consequences are without the walkthroughs so i just played it anyway.

However, Soulripper and I do have the same error.

 

[louisamay]

I wasn't worried about how long it takes to get back. it'd be pretty quick, i was just letting you know. and yes i tried multiple saves...none of which were autosaves though. I tried multiple saves with no mods installed and they all worked fine, then added the walkthrough and suddenly they wouldn't work. If the error isn't reproduceable don't worry about it. I use URM all the time to so i can usually figure out what the consequences are without the walkthroughs so i just played it anyway.

However, Soulripper and I do have the same error.

Well, yes, it is unfortunate for me, the mod has broken my saves. Having already made my opinions known Re; pregnancy, I was looking forward to the game's response. But I do NOT want to start from the beginning. So Bye!

 

[Nekomusume Daisuki]

That's weird... Dropping a game because a *3rd party* mod breaks the savegames? Then, like, just don't use the mod?

 

[Nicest_Incest]

That's weird... Dropping a game because a *3rd party* mod breaks the savegames? Then, like, just don't use the mod?

Yeah esp when that's 100% not the dev's fault/problem. Saves between modded and unmodded are almost never compatible anyway, and mods tend to get abandoned even more often than the base AVN. It's why I almost never use mods to begin with these days, any AVN worth playing shouldn't need them.

 

[angband]

The kitten's exact origin is purposefully obfuscated because it doesn't really matter for the story. Same as why I've never specified what country MC is from. In your head-canon, if you want them to be Russian, I'm okay with that. Explain the strange names away with something like, "They had hippies for parents."

Something about the idea of Russian hippies makes me giggle.

"In Soviet Russia, pot smokes you!"

 

[angband]

That's weird... Dropping a game because a *3rd party* mod breaks the savegames? Then, like, just don't use the mod?

Especially when the decisions aren't particularly complicated or hard to figure out.

 

[Burgouis]

I do like this game very much, and have played basically every update as it came out. The only things I'd change are the hairstyles of the girls. Short hair makes a girl ugly, and his big sister looks like his brother. I know it's harder to deal with long hair in renders, but a pretty girl is worth it in the end. It can look "cute" for a little girl, depending on the style, but it doesn't make her beautiful. Most of the time, short hair makes girls look like boys and that's a big problem. You gave Kitka extensions at the beginning, is it possible to at least make one beautiful girl in this game for the next update or two?

 

[AndyOTR]

we're talking about Russians

We are talking about a game that is not made by Russians. Some differences are quite acceptable in this case, exact correspondence is not required. Some differences add spice.
Remember "cocainum" from red heat -)

but still the word "horny" is a man's word, forgive me, well, the girl does not have a horn between her legs!

Most likely you are confusing "horny" and "horned".
Maybe I'm wrong, but I doubt that English speakers associate the word horny with a horn.

 

[ramvivat]

We are talking about a game that is not made by Russians. Some differences are quite acceptable in this case, exact correspondence is not required. Some differences add spice.
Remember "cocainum" from red heat -)


Most likely you are confusing "horny" and "horned".
Maybe I'm wrong, but I doubt that English speakers associate the word horny with a horn.

hmm, this is actually very strange, because the connection between these words is obvious, you have to be blind not to notice it.

 

[Nicest_Incest]

We are talking about a game that is not made by Russians. Some differences are quite acceptable in this case, exact correspondence is not required. Some differences add spice.
Remember "cocainum" from red heat -)


Most likely you are confusing "horny" and "horned".
Maybe I'm wrong, but I doubt that English speakers associate the word horny with a horn.

Now that you mention it even as a native English speaker I dunno how or why "horny" came to mean basically "sexually excited and wanting sex" but can also mean "covered in horns" like those horned lizards in the Southwest that people also call horny toads due to their heads being covered in what looks like little horns. I guess maybe at some point having an erection was also called growing a horn or something, but no idea at all how that also eventually applied to females too since it's never that obvious with them.

 

[Nekomusume Daisuki]

We are talking about a game that is not made by Russians. Some differences are quite acceptable in this case, exact correspondence is not required. Some differences add spice.
Remember "cocainum" from red heat -)


Most likely you are confusing "horny" and "horned".
Maybe I'm wrong, but I doubt that English speakers associate the word horny with a horn.

It's not linked to it anymore, but it *is* the root origin of horny... When a man is aroused, the shape and hardness of his penis is kinda like a horn...
Applying it to female arousal is fairly recent in comparison, even in English...

 

[willyman]

I don't know if it is based on actual law or just stereotyping, but Abercrombie & Fitch got criticized for carrying a shirt that said, "It's All Relative in West Virginia,"

Like everything it also depends on location. Here in Ohio you can legally fuck (and impregnate if that's what you both want) your sister and she only needs to be 16, things like age difference is not a consideration at all either. The world is big, I'm sure other places have 12-15 as age of consent with similar laws. I also like to think the MC rescued them before they had a chance to be pimped out. Even though that's not really NTR it still rubs me the wrong way if the MC was basically fucking used whores and someone else's sloppy seconds. I don't know if I'm just weird because I've only ever fucked my sister or what but even in real life I wouldn't want to fuck someone that someone else has already fucked, to me that's like using someone else's used Fleshlight (I'm not bi so that sounds disgusting to me). There's always DNA tests to be sure but I have heard of people simply keeping accidental kids secret and off-grid for whatever reason, even though that will totally fuck them up later after 20 years when they realize they have no records or paperwork so officially don't exist when they later try to do things like get a job or a driver's license. I guess we'll see how it turns out later but it would kinda suck to be in baby jail (even if not literal jail) when the kid isn't even yours (it's why paternity tests are a thing).

I just assume she's 15 and legal where they are. Most states are kinda lenient all things considered anyway as long as you don't kill anyone. I know a guy back in the day that fucked a 14yo friend of mine and sis's classmate when he was 26 (several years older than I was at the time). Ended up getting her pregnant which soon after she miscarried, which screwed her up mentally. Her mother has him jailed for statutory rape after that, which being the crazy guy he is has a hacksaw blade smuggled in (lol uh, what's security?) and broke out of jail, then goes on the run and survives in the woods by breaking into people's houses and stealing shit for a few months before getting caught. Even though he did a previous stretch in prison so had a record and like 50 other charges added to the statutory rape charge and felony escape he was sentenced to 12 years, and got out in 5. Had he been a good boy and just stayed in jail it probably wouldn't have even been a 5-year sentence and got out in 1-2 years. Hell maybe even just a suspended sentence and credit for time served or even just a year or less in local county. And that was from a judge with a reputation for being harsh.

you do realize your full of it right ? incest is illegal in every state of the union and the age of 16 of consent is only a romio and juliet law the guy can not be more than 10 years older.Im surprised people dont know the laws in their own state but really nothing surprises me anymore people actually believe what ever is on the internet or news rofl.

 

[asdfg-79t]

the age of 16 of consent is only a romio and juliet law the guy can not be more than 10 years older.Im surprised people dont know the laws in their own state but really nothing surprises me anymore people actually believe what ever is on the internet or news rofl.

no look it up

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in ohio 16 is age of consent

but theres romeo and juliet laws down to age 13

adn theres this too

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look at the ohio codes link up there and theres nothing about brother sister incest just cant be parent child

ohio is special

 

[Nicest_Incest]

you do realize your full of it right ? incest is illegal in every state of the union and the age of 16 of consent is only a romio and juliet law the guy can not be more than 10 years older.Im surprised people dont know the laws in their own state but really nothing surprises me anymore people actually believe what ever is on the internet or news rofl.

Hate to disappoint you but look it up. One example among many

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. Google's dumbass/lazy AI answers seldom apply but a lawyer will tell you the same thing (best one to ask). The Juliet aspect only applies when they are both underage (ie 17 and 13), otherwise one can be 16 and the other 86 on Viagra and it's still legal with consent. Although if the younger one's parents are still pissed about it you can still have potential problems (like possible contributing to delinquency charges if you get her pregnant, if you're getting blamed for her acts of rebellion, etc. but statutory rape laws will not apply if they are 16, it's consentual and you are not in an authority role over her (dad, teacher, etc)). You're also 100% wrong about the incest, sibling versions are still legal in 3 states (OH NJ RI, though haven't checked in 2025 but OH is still definitely legal, otherwise I'd move in the same way pro-abortionists leave their state when their relevant laws do a 180) as long as it's consentual (though need to be 18 in NJ, but other than that ALL consentual incest is legal, at least in the sense that there is no specific law against incest of any type). Does no one know how to use the internet or simply call one of the overabundance of lawyers licensed in their relevant state and ask?

 

[Nicest_Incest]

no look it up

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in ohio 16 is age of consent

but theres romeo and juliet laws down to age 13

adn theres this too

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look at the ohio codes link up there and theres nothing about brother sister incest just cant be parent child

ohio is special

Technically that incest article is not 100% true, incest is still technically legal in places outside Ohio

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. Social media does love to oversimplify things and every instance is mostly unique so best to ask an actual lawyer for specific circumstances. Depending on what you did/plan to do just because hateful prudes can't jail you for incest doesn't mean they won't try to bully you with other laws if/when the secret gets out. Though NJ did introduce a bill that is yet to pass specifically targeting incest. I don't even live in NJ and hope it doesn't pass, as I don't think it's anyone else's business what 2 consenting people decide to do in their own bedrooms or even if they agree to make a sex tape and sell it on OF, least of all the gov'ts. Not that it matters much anyway, kinda hard to enforce if you want privacy laws to stand as well and as they say don't get caught then laws won't matter so all it does is keep them in the closet just like it did with the LGBTs back when that was illegal or the interracial couples before them.