discussion Abandoned VN Ren'Py EGBE [Prologue v0.3.3b] [Ketzal]

[Nicest_Incest]

In both cases you're paying for the time and effort (and possibly materials) the specialist spent trying to help you, regardless of outcome, since lawyers and doctors aren't really in control of those. Would be pretty messed up if you did dozens of hours of absolute top-tier work for someone and then got nothing because something went wrong that you had no ability to impact.

A lot of litigation lawyers simply don't get paid if they don't win the case (and is usually around 30% if they do win). That's just the gamble they take, win some lose some. If only that policy was universal. The way most clients/patients see it is they are paying for results, not time or materials it took to get those results. If they don't think they can win or save them (or whatever the goal is, might be simply cosmetic) then maybe don't take them on as customers? Of course hospitals are legally forced to deal with everyone regardless if they take gov't payouts like Medicare, but Congress should prob end that law if they want to keep costs pegged to inflation.

 

[AlBetGam]

A lot of litigation lawyers simply don't get paid if they don't win the case (and is usually around 30% if they do win). That's just the gamble they take, win some lose some.

I'm pretty sure that's for lawyers handling big lawsuits, where they're essentially trading normal billing (sometimes from people who couldn't really pay it anyway) for a shot at a chunk of a huge settlement.

If only that policy was universal.

If that policy was universal it would utterly suck. For both clients and service providers. Imagine not being able to get medical care at all because the hospitals think your chances are low and aren't willing to risk not being able to bill you. Imagine not being able to get a defense lawyer because they all think you look too guilty. Or, again, imagine spending hundreds of hours or thousands of dollars on a court case and getting nothing because the judge was in a bad mood that morning.

The way most clients/patients see it is they are paying for results, not time or materials it took to get those results. If they don't think they can win or save them (or whatever the goal is, might be simply cosmetic) then maybe don't take them on as customers? Of course hospitals are legally forced to deal with everyone regardless if they take gov't payouts like Medicare, but Congress should prob end that law if they want to keep costs pegged to inflation.

Then those clients and patients are seeing it wrong. What you pay for is work to be done that you can't do yourself. You certainly hope that work has the best results, but even the best lawyer or doctor in the world simply can't guarantee that.

 

[fthegovernment]

the only posts i'm reading say "released" or "available now"

can someone make a off-topic / shit talk thread please

 

[Ama02]

Yes. With the full 0.3R release.

When?

 

[CndnViking]

Just finished the update and.... wow dude. First of all, that photo shoot scene was brilliantly teasing, and left me frustrated it ended where it did (which for a demo is kinda perfect) and then.... that redhead at the end? I think I'm in love. I can't wait for more! Keep up the great work!

The only thing I don't really get, since you asked for constructive criticism, is the dissonance between the dialogue about character ages and what it says in their profiles. Like, when the MC says Marie "can't be more than 10" but her profile says 18. I assume (read: hope) these will match eventually?

Otherwise my only complaint is that there isn't more to play yet. A+ Demo.

 

[User_150284]

Just finished the update and.... wow dude. First of all, that photo shoot scene was brilliantly teasing, and left me frustrated it ended where it did (which for a demo is kinda perfect) and then.... that redhead at the end? I think I'm in love. I can't wait for more! Keep up the great work!

The only thing I don't really get, since you asked for constructive criticism, is the dissonance between the dialogue about character ages and what it says in their profiles. Like, when the MC says Marie "can't be more than 10" but her profile says 18. I assume (read: hope) these will match eventually?

Otherwise my only complaint is that there isn't more to play yet. A+ Demo.

Thanks for your constructive criticism, love it. The ages are just for the demo, in the Prologue, released next week, you can configure the ages as you wish.

 

[CndnViking]

Oh, one more thing I guess I could ask: Does the name actually mean something we should be able to understand? Am I just that clueless? Or is that something we'll find out?

 

[User_150284]

Oh, one more thing I guess I could ask: Does the name actually mean something we should be able to understand? Am I just that clueless? Or is that something we'll find out?

It's something related to the story in the game. When the time comes, everyone will understand.

 

[Irregular73]

Heyo, just played through the Demo, wanted to say, great work! Looking forward to more.

Spoiler: Encountered an issue but also spoiler bits

Did encounter one issue, not sure what was up with it. During the Marie photoshoot though, first time through, I wasn't able to progress to any of the other costumes for her, everything was locked: It showed me that Casual girl was "You've already seen this costume" or something like that and I didn't have enough trust for the others. Now, I backed up a decision or two just hitting the back button and I realized my 'Trust' wasn't going up or down with her. Re-loading from the end of the conversation with mom, re-doing Sash's tidbit, and then coming back to Marie fixed the issue. Wasn't able to re-cause the issue, so I'm not sure what happened, but wanted to give a heads up.

 

[Canicula]

One bug I have come across is that if you are cold to mom, the photo shoot doesn't go ahead. I played both outcomes and the photoshoot only comes up when you play the incest route with mom, at least in this demo.

 

[chester1530]

One bug I have come across is that if you are cold to mom, the photo shoot doesn't go ahead. I played both outcomes and the photoshoot only comes up when you play the incest route with mom, at least in this demo.

well... fuck her!!!

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[Nicest_Incest]

well... fuck her!!!

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Exactly, Why would someone play an incest AVN and choose to not fuck their family? I've never heard of a dev purposely making ugly family members so that's not a reason to not fuck them. As far as this one in particular maybe in later updates there's an alt path that opens up for the lolis and that choice was just meant to close the path of fucking mom for those not into milfs (same reason the MC's literal landlady is also optional via choice).

 

[kbakon]

As a hebe fan, all I can say is WOW! This has potential to be the best game of all. I really appreciated the interaction with Marie. Her (at least initial) self-consciousness / shyness is more realistic than the usual characters who are uncharacteristically forward and daring.

 

[DoctorWells]

Your stuff is just next level man

 

[flannelshirt]

I am glad SSP won't be the only story Ketzal tells. Great dev.

 

[Redyscom]

Serious question, when and where do we build the statue of Ketzal? He deserves it.

 

[cippssss]

do

Serious question, when and where do we build the statue of Ketzal? He deserves it.

dont even try or feminist shit group will hunt him just like no mercy dev

 

[Nicest_Incest]

do

dont even try or feminist shit group will hunt him just like no mercy dev

Such idiots should be ignored by everybody, esp payment processors and gov'ts. They're a tiny vocal minority so they'd be little more than barking chihuahuas.

 

[CndnViking]

Exactly, Why would someone play an incest AVN and choose to not fuck their family?

1. I wouldn't even really call this "an incest AVN" - so far most of the LIs aren't related to the MC.

2. Given that, there are any number of reasons someone might not go after the mom character - maybe they're here for the lils and not into older women, for example? (Honestly that's pretty much where I sit.) It doesn't necessarily have to have anything to do with it being family at all.

 

[CndnViking]

in the Prologue, released next week, you can configure the ages as you wish.

To say I'm waiting with bated breath (pun intended) would be an understatement. I'll prob be checking back every day until it comes out. XD