discussion Abandoned VN Ren'Py DAZ Early Love [v0.8.2] [KindyGuY]

[Babaric-Shelf]

so what are their actual intended ages and not the ages given

 

[KindyGuY]

so what are their actual intended ages and not the ages given

I will make a patch with the real age of each character in the next update )

 

[Malakai]

I will make a patch with the real age of each character in the next update )

Dont do that....
I, for my part, that doesnt really care, coz i do have a brain and know this is just a game, woudnt mind, but.....
the disclaimer " everyone is 18+ years old, even if they seem to appear younger, every sex is consent, blablabla "
only works if you stick to that.
If you, as a developer, say that this girl is, for example, only 10 years old!
You might attract retards that you dont want to.... its way easier to bitch at an "illegal" game, when even the developer states that the girls in his game are underage....so dont do that.
Better to just stick to the usual " everyone is 18+ " blabla bullshit, but still allowing players to change the age of the characters.

Thats just my Opinion tho.

You do you! I am diffinitly eagerly awaiting the next update

 

[Driko]

I will make a patch with the real age of each character in the next update )

KindyGuY Really don't make the mistake of putting the supposed real age of the characters, I don't know what the law is about that in Russia, but in most parts of the world even creating fictional work with minors can be a problem...
So Always put the warning:
"Everyone is 18+ years old, even if they seem to appear younger, every sex is consent"
Ok friend and I'm waiting for the next update, I hope it's the continuation of Maggie's story.

 

[snow123789]

is anyone having problem extracting the game? My PC can extract most game, but not this. I tried online but no luck. Any idea how to fix it???

 

[User_48642]

is anyone having problem extracting the game? My PC can extract most game, but not this. I tried online but no luck. Any idea how to fix it???

You need to enter a password before you can extract it. If you're using Windows with the built-in file archiver it won't work.

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will extract anything, so try with that.

 

[snow123789]

The game need a lot of graphical improvements, especially the characters. Everything seems to be out of focus.

 

[Darth Sidious]

Dont do that....
I, for my part, that doesnt really care, coz i do have a brain and know this is just a game, woudnt mind, but.....
the disclaimer " everyone is 18+ years old, even if they seem to appear younger, every sex is consent, blablabla "
only works if you stick to that.
If you, as a developer, say that this girl is, for example, only 10 years old!
You might attract retards that you dont want to.... its way easier to bitch at an "illegal" game, when even the developer states that the girls in his game are underage....so dont do that.
Better to just stick to the usual " everyone is 18+ " blabla bullshit, but still allowing players to change the age of the characters.

Thats just my Opinion tho.

You do you! I am diffinitly eagerly awaiting the next update

Translation: Please do! I'm a sick pervert who's pretending to be a perfect white collar who obeys the law! BlaBlaBla... "illegal" BlaBlaBla... "everyone is 18+".

 

[Malakai]

Translation: Please do! I'm a sick pervert who's pretending to be a perfect white collar who obeys the law! BlaBlaBla... "illegal" BlaBlaBla... "everyone is 18+".

uhm....okay, cool.
Translation : I dont have anything smart or constructive to say, so i talk shit to get my post count higher! GO ME!

 

[Mr. Tearson]

Translation: Please do! I'm a sick pervert who's pretending to be a perfect white collar who obeys the law! BlaBlaBla... "illegal" BlaBlaBla... "everyone is 18+".

uhm....okay, cool.
Translation : I dont have anything smart or constructive to say, so i talk shit to get my post count higher! GO ME!

Translation: Take this crap to off-topic. All Devs should protect themselves by any means necessary. It's up to this Dev to do what he wants to do and what he believe is right or wrong, which ever. We're here to talk about the game, not the users that give opinions or to create unnecessary arguments.

 

[drcstack]

Yes there are some choices that can be opened or closed. For example, if you don't want to be on Lori's path, you just have to not drop the fork during the dinner on the 7th game day, or if you don't don't want to be on Arya's path, you just have to not enter into her changing room on the 6th game day. And it will close their path until the end of the game. You can be on the path with several girls, but it can bring consequences in the future, about which I still haven't come up to be honest ))

Normally I wouldn't be too concerned with this, but since you're dabbling in the area of ntr I have to ask: does the consequences or some consequences lead to NTR? You seemed really surprised about the negative feedback you received with the Maggie thing and I was surprised that you were surprised about it. It wasn't as bad as I thought it would be and I only gave this game a try due to certain comments saying it wasn't his daughter, but most guys wouldn't want to see the girls with any other dudes if John was your only MC that is. I'm not sure how you weren't quite aware of that. You even got a tommy route which I'm sure is not going to go well with some people.

I for one try to avoid ntr at all cost, a majority of ppl aren't just into it, not saying everyone isn't, just a majority of ppl aren't. I was reeaaal skeptical on trying this or not just because I saw the ntr tag. That tag is bone killer/money repellent. What's worst is that you originally snuck it in there and caught ppl off gaurd. I feel like if it was labeled NTR from the start ppl wouldn't have complained.

Anyhow what has me worried given what I played so far is that I see even more ntr scenarios. Like if you don't tell Frank how his wife thinks she cheats in him you state that he'd have to crash at your house and that's all sorts of trouble leading up to ntr with Lilly. That's definitely going to hurt you if you do that, at least imo (If you thought Maggi situation was bad then....) There's even an option to let him spank her so I definitely see a ntr route with her. then there's the tommy route, there's no telling what you're going to do with Maggie or if you have something planned for Lori and now you state that there will be consequences if you choose to go on a path with several girls. Whether that means more ntr or they leave you or die or something. Not a fan of any of that. Why make a consequence for that at all? That makes me all the more hesitant to want to continue after this update. I don't want to have to worry about who I have to choose who I can and can't see. I'm down for different paths and all but not when it's ntr or something depressing. It's a bit too much for my liking.

I get that it's not garnered towards me specifically, but I hope that maybe you can do something that would relieve the apprehensive worries I and ppl who like me have towards your game. Everything always fall apart when NTR gets involved. If that's your vision then by all means do what you want, but if you want to keep a good amount of ppl to your game or have them subscribe and pay for it then I highly recommend not adding anymore NTR.

Can you tell us will their be a ntr route for lilly or any other girls in the future or the next updates? Or will that be considered a spoiler that you don't want to ruin?

 

[SeveredRealms]

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[4chanmyd00d]

Well.
I like this game alot... Reminds me about.... Tiddies!?
I would like to see some more gurls getting introduced in the game tho. No Ntr. As we know ppl get cancer from that here...

Love.

 

[Elton_R]

For some reason the game stays on this screen and doesn't go to the menus, has this happened to anyone? Before I could play the game but I used Zenpy Free to translate it and it stayed on this screen so I decided to delete everything and download it again and it still stays on this screen... there is something that is saved on the PC and every time I download the game, I extract it and runs is still bugged? I'm a layman so I apologize if I said something stupid.

 

[Elton_R]

For some reason the game stays on this screen and doesn't go to the menus, has this happened to anyone? Before I could play the game but I used Zenpy Free to translate it and it stayed on this screen so I decided to delete everything and download it again and it still stays on this screen... there is something that is saved on the PC and every time I download the game, I extract it and runs is still bugged? I'm a layman so I apologize if I said something stupid.

I managed to solve it by downloading ren'py 8.1.2 and in that launcher I chose the Delete persistent data option and it ended up resolving this bug.

 

[KindyGuY]

Normally I wouldn't be too concerned with this, but since you're dabbling in the area of ntr I have to ask: does the consequences or some consequences lead to NTR? You seemed really surprised about the negative feedback you received with the Maggie thing and I was surprised that you were surprised about it. It wasn't as bad as I thought it would be and I only gave this game a try due to certain comments saying it wasn't his daughter, but most guys wouldn't want to see the girls with any other dudes if John was your only MC that is. I'm not sure how you weren't quite aware of that. You even got a tommy route which I'm sure is not going to go well with some people.

I for one try to avoid ntr at all cost, a majority of ppl aren't just into it, not saying everyone isn't, just a majority of ppl aren't. I was reeaaal skeptical on trying this or not just because I saw the ntr tag. That tag is bone killer/money repellent. What's worst is that you originally snuck it in there and caught ppl off gaurd. I feel like if it was labeled NTR from the start ppl wouldn't have complained.

Anyhow what has me worried given what I played so far is that I see even more ntr scenarios. Like if you don't tell Frank how his wife thinks she cheats in him you state that he'd have to crash at your house and that's all sorts of trouble leading up to ntr with Lilly. That's definitely going to hurt you if you do that, at least imo (If you thought Maggi situation was bad then....) There's even an option to let him spank her so I definitely see a ntr route with her. then there's the tommy route, there's no telling what you're going to do with Maggie or if you have something planned for Lori and now you state that there will be consequences if you choose to go on a path with several girls. Whether that means more ntr or they leave you or die or something. Not a fan of any of that. Why make a consequence for that at all? That makes me all the more hesitant to want to continue after this update. I don't want to have to worry about who I have to choose who I can and can't see. I'm down for different paths and all but not when it's ntr or something depressing. It's a bit too much for my liking.

I get that it's not garnered towards me specifically, but I hope that maybe you can do something that would relieve the apprehensive worries I and ppl who like me have towards your game. Everything always fall apart when NTR gets involved. If that's your vision then by all means do what you want, but if you want to keep a good amount of ppl to your game or have them subscribe and pay for it then I highly recommend not adding anymore NTR.

Can you tell us will their be a ntr route for lilly or any other girls in the future or the next updates? Or will that be considered a spoiler that you don't want to ruin?

Well, I'll give you the answers to your questions, but I'll leave them under the spoiler in case some people don't want to read this.

Spoiler: DON'T READ IF YOU HATE SPOILERS!

So, first of all, I don't hide that I like ntr, but as you said, if I want to keep a good amount of people I should not add ntr. I won't remove ntr but I'm gonna give people possibility to avoid it and I'll add the warnings before making choices to avoid it. The path showing that Lily and Tommy are in a relationship means that YOU have given up on a relationship with Lily, and this no longer counts as ntr. As for the path of ntr Lily, you will also have a warning before choosing so that you avoid events that you do not want to happen.

That's all I can say, thank you for playing my game, I hope you'll stay with me

 

[drcstack]

Well, I'll give you the answers to your questions, but I'll leave them under the spoiler in case some people don't want to read this.

Spoiler: DON'T READ IF YOU HATE SPOILERS!

So, first of all, I don't hide that I like ntr, but as you said, if I want to keep a good amount of people I should not add ntr. I won't remove ntr but I'm gonna give people possibility to avoid it and I'll add the warnings before making choices to avoid it. The path showing that Lily and Tommy are in a relationship means that YOU have given up on a relationship with Lily, and this no longer counts as ntr. As for the path of ntr Lily, you will also have a warning before choosing so that you avoid events that you do not want to happen.

That's all I can say, thank you for playing my game, I hope you'll stay with me

Thanks for being honest and straight up with your answer. I'm not going to continue however... I don't like where it's going.

I'm someone who has to see all content if I'm playing a game, maybe a completionist if you will, and I definitely don't want to see that. I really don't quite understand the need for NTR it destroys so many great things and works. NTR is a niche. As a minority like it compared to the majority. Even if there's an option to avoid it it's still going to turn ppl off and away. We just do not like it bro.

Quick question, why not state the game as NTR when first released? You clearly intended to have NTR routes from the getgo. I'm sorry to say but, giving up on a route on the fmc(s) (say Lily or maggi) and letting someone else fck her is NTR no matter how you want to put it. Because your story was incomplete prior to releasing some routes are missing hence no one expected it. The ppl are already use to Lily and others being with the mc (John) and wouldn't like to see or even know that there will be alternate paths to fuck others guys. They thought this was NTR free because of that. You led them astray and bamboozled them lol the feedback you received was well placed in this regard because of that with Maggie.

I don't think you quite know your audience or how to relay things properly regarding your game. You're going to upset a looot more ppl with this, probably moreso than you know, ntr is well hated. Just be prepared. It's your work and vision however so do what you like whether it goes against the grain or not. Just giving a heads up since I found that you were surprised with people reactions before. You might be new to all this giving your previous reactions and prior decisions you've made.

If you aren't sure about how to proceed on something I recommend doing polls to see what ppl think or where they stand on. Anyways good luck.

 

[KindyGuY]

Thanks for being honest and straight up with your answer. I'm not going to continue however... I don't like where it's going.

I'm someone who has to see all content if I'm playing a game, maybe a completionist if you will, and I definitely don't want to see that. I really don't quite understand the need for NTR it destroys so many great things and works. NTR is a niche. As a minority like it compared to the majority. Even if there's an option to avoid it it's still going to turn ppl off and away. We just do not like it bro.

Quick question, why not state the game as NTR when first released? You clearly intended to have NTR routes from the getgo. I'm sorry to say but, giving up on a route on the fmc(s) (say Lily or maggi) and letting someone else fck her is NTR no matter how you want to put it. Because your story was incomplete prior to releasing some routes are missing hence no one expected it. The ppl are already use to Lily and others being with the mc (John) and wouldn't like to see or even know that there will be alternate paths to fuck others guys. They thought this was NTR free because of that. You led them astray and bamboozled them lol the feedback you received was well placed in this regard because of that with Maggie.

I don't think you quite know your audience or how to relay things properly regarding your game. You're going to upset a looot more ppl with this, probably moreso than you know, ntr is well hated. Just be prepared. It's your work and vision however so do what you like whether it goes against the grain or not. Just giving a heads up since I found that you were surprised with people reactions before. You might be new to all this giving your previous reactions and prior decisions you've made.

If you aren't sure about how to proceed on something I recommend doing polls to see what ppl think or where they stand on. Anyways good luck.

Well, first of all, if MC is NOT on the path with, for example, Lily, and then she will have relationships with someone, that is not ntr, anyway, I'm not gonna show a lot of content about Lily's relationships with Tommy (if you're not on her path). This is a reasonable combination of circumstances in the case that if you don't show your love to any of the girls, then they will find their love with someone else. And it's not ntr. Second thing - I really haven't known that in other countries there are a lot of people who hate ntr. In my country there are a lot of people who like ntr, and there are people who don't care about ntr, so if they don't like it they just skip it and keep on playing or they just don't play and not panic about it like it was here. I will never understand why people hate ntr so much but love loli, I like ntr but it's just my fantasy, just like lolis, and it doesn't mean I like these things in my real life. Some people play AVNs just for fun, but some play as if it's happening in their lives.
You are right, it's up to me how to continue the game. There will be ntr no matter what, but I'll give people choices and warnings to avoid it. Now, please, stop trying to explain me what ntr is or what it is not. And I'm sorry I didn't satisfy your wishes, I hope you'll find a lot of games without ntr, but it will be hard, because there are a lot of games with ntr.

 

[GraspingWaters]

Thanks for being honest and straight up with your answer. I'm not going to continue however... I don't like where it's going.

I'm someone who has to see all content if I'm playing a game, maybe a completionist if you will, and I definitely don't want to see that. I really don't quite understand the need for NTR it destroys so many great things and works. NTR is a niche. As a minority like it compared to the majority. Even if there's an option to avoid it it's still going to turn ppl off and away. We just do not like it bro.

Quick question, why not state the game as NTR when first released? You clearly intended to have NTR routes from the getgo. I'm sorry to say but, giving up on a route on the fmc(s) (say Lily or maggi) and letting someone else fck her is NTR no matter how you want to put it. Because your story was incomplete prior to releasing some routes are missing hence no one expected it. The ppl are already use to Lily and others being with the mc (John) and wouldn't like to see or even know that there will be alternate paths to fuck others guys. They thought this was NTR free because of that. You led them astray and bamboozled them lol the feedback you received was well placed in this regard because of that with Maggie.

I don't think you quite know your audience or how to relay things properly regarding your game. You're going to upset a looot more ppl with this, probably moreso than you know, ntr is well hated. Just be prepared. It's your work and vision however so do what you like whether it goes against the grain or not. Just giving a heads up since I found that you were surprised with people reactions before. You might be new to all this giving your previous reactions and prior decisions you've made.

If you aren't sure about how to proceed on something I recommend doing polls to see what ppl think or where they stand on. Anyways good luck.

What? Minority is definitely NOT the people who are ok with NTR. Without a single doubt its the opposite. If you, or anyone else, cannot handle NTR, but are somehow ok with Harem for the MC, you have sexism issues. SEVERE ones.

The people who can't handle the NTR just bitch the loudest. But are ABSOLUTELY not in the majority. There's more than enough proof out there to counter that shit logic.

Do yourself a favor and you and anyone else that can't handle, have yourself a sit down and learn about respecting the opposite sex.

 

[Malakai]

Well, first of all, if MC is NOT on the path with, for example, Lily, and then she will have relationships with someone, that is not ntr, anyway, I'm not gonna show a lot of content about Lily's relationships with Tommy (if you're not on her path). This is a reasonable combination of circumstances in the case that if you don't show your love to any of the girls, then they will find their love with someone else. And it's not ntr. Second thing - I really haven't known that in other countries there are a lot of people who hate ntr. In my country there are a lot of people who like ntr, and there are people who don't care about ntr, so if they don't like it they just skip it and keep on playing or they just don't play and not panic about it like it was here. I will never understand why people hate ntr so much but love loli, I like ntr but it's just my fantasy, just like lolis, and it doesn't mean I like these things in my real life. Some people play AVNs just for fun, but some play as if it's happening in their lives.
You are right, it's up to me how to continue the game. There will be ntr no matter what, but I'll give people choices and warnings to avoid it. Now, please, stop trying to explain me what ntr is or what it is not. And I'm sorry I didn't satisfy your wishes, I hope you'll find a lot of games without ntr, but it will be hard, because there are a lot of games with ntr.

Well said. I also will never understand all the hate for NTR especially if its just optional.
Its a porn game..... dont like it? dont play it.
Its your game KindyGuy, keep on doing what you like and dont let yourself be dragged down by randoms on a forum were you post your game for FREE