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Abandoned VN Ren'Py DAZ Early Love [v0.8.2] [KindyGuY]

Really? Pathetic...
Missed your chance.

Tagged as such now, that is enough on the subject of NTR. This thread is to discuss the game, not your feelings (not picking on you molva, you are just the final comment on it before we start dropping the hammer). Previous warning.

Edit: If it makes you feel any better, at least one person (me) read your rant and (mostly) agreed.
 
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I went and dowloaded the (again), extracted it with using the password MtUjrfoQnYnv (again), then ran the EarlyLove.exe file. You should get this screen (otherwise delete what you have and try these steps only again.
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Nothing works on this shit, I've downloaded it three times and it doesn't open the damn menu.
 
I wrote this when I first heard about the NTR being added. It's an angry rant, no one is obligated to read it, I'll be ignoring this game and won't respond here, so read if you want, but it's whatever. I've always tried to be understanding and rational and it has gotten me nowhere and still accused of being all kinds of bad things and strawmaned, so this is an honest, angry rant.

I don't believe you. I'm tired of these devs pretending to be stupid and that is the excuse they use. "Herp-derp, I didn't know that people might not want to see random guys fucking the girls in an incest-loli-harem game, :poop:." These forums blow up all the time when shit like this gets added, and then you did it, now you want to pretend you are surprised. You presented an incest game without any NTR but then added it out of nowhere. You did it because you like it, but you were too dishonest to just admit it up front because you wanted to bait people who hate it. It's the same old pattern, dishonest devs pulling this BS.


As @2_e said already, this is gaslighting of the highest order. A game presents itself as one thing in the early updates and release but then as time goes on it does something else, little by little, testing the water but always being cute about it saying things like "No spoilers, wait and see, wink-wink." If someone tells me they are making me an omelet, but then they give me a pile of shit I'm allowed to be upset. Even if it was free.


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You really going to trust the dev? And the girls are already used up, apparently, they are all already getting fucked, so best case is that now the MC gets sloppy seconds even if he makes it really avoidable, but likely because he enjoys used up lolis he will make it skippable. He likes it, he's pretending to be surprised that people don't like it and are upset and now he'll, "find a way to make it avoidable." When making it avoidable is easy, just make it not fucking happen. Have the girls not be used up whores who fuck other guys, simple, easy... Make a loli that isn't a slut.

I'll never understand the appeal of a used up lolis? Who sees a loli and thinks... "You know what makes her more appealing? If she's been fucked by a hundred guys and her gapping vagina can't even feel my dick... yeah awesome, wonderful idea for a loli..." Disgusting. I'm glad I stopped playing this when it became clear that things were going downhill with the mutually exclusive scenes and innuendo that was all testing the water to see if people noticed. Too bad most people didn't notice and call him out earlier... but then again, these things always come out eventually so if someone had noticed and called it out, he would have just kept pretending to make a non-NTR game until he got the chance to drop this shit.


I'm just glad that I didn't get surprised by this. I'm sorry to those who did. I've been hit with surprise NTR before. And I'm done pretending it isn't the most underhanded and shitbag thing to do. Like, no one would be surprised if a game suddenly put in a scat scene and people got upset, or if suddenly the MC killed a love interested and fucked her corpse because "necrophilia is just a fetish." But these devs pretend to be surprised when they add in NTR and get shit for it.
You have a point. My thoughts are the same as yours.

 
Really? Pathetic...
I have gone through earlier this morning and undeleted peoples comments. You all have the right to ask questions and have decent adult conversations. I will be asking the mod why he deleted them. I do not care what side of the ntr fence people are on. I have to be fair to both sides and what happened in this thread wasn't proper. Joe please tone it down a little though lol.
 
I kind of have to agree with @JoeTheMc84. It's a little hard to believe that the dev wasn't aware that NTR is a huge no no for a lot of people. Most of these threads end up with having NTR debates at some point. But I still think that the game can be fun if the dev makes the NTR stuff avoidable.
 
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Hello! Wow, I see some people are so angry with me, yes I like ntr but it doesn't mean I like it in real life, no, it's just my fantasy, but if in real life my girlfriend cheat on me, I would break up with her. And also I don't understand the logic of people who doesn't like ntr, I don't mind that you don't like it, because it's your life and your choice, but there's one thing I can't understand - for you ntr is very very bad and disgusting, but the fact that MC is 37-years-old man who fucks lolis that are like about 14-18-years-old is normal for you, right? Of course it's normal for you, because you like loli games, but because of ntr some people got really angry with me, I can't understand. If you don't like something in my game, please, don't play it. I've changed the ntr-path with Maggie by giving you the choice to avoid it because I hurried with writing her story path. So, after my comment, I ask you not to say another word about ntr and I ask the moderators to block such users, I don't like that some people who love loli characters are trying to shit me because they are disgusted with ntr. Update 0.8.2 will be released soon. Thank you all for your attention, I continue to work at the same pace, the general plot for the next 3 days is almost ready, I will start working on it from about September 15. Of course I hope that the next update won't take as long as this, but life is such a thing that I can't promise anything. That's it.
 
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And also for those people who has problems with empty main menu. I think the problem is that I've changed a lot code lines in this new version, so that's why your old saves are interfering with the launch of the game properly. I really don't know how to fix it, but I would recommend you delete all your saves from "users>(your user name)>appdata>roaming>renpy>earlylove". or don't delete them, just copy them to another place so you can check if they were the problem
 
Hello! Wow, I see some people are so angry with me, yes I like ntr but it doesn't mean I like it in real life, no, it's just my fantasy, but if in real life my girlfriend cheat on me, I would break up with her. And also I don't understand the logic of people who doesn't like ntr, I don't mind that you don't like it, because it's your life and your choice, but there's one thing I can't understand - for you ntr is very very bad and disgusting, but the fact that MC is 37-years-old man who fucks lolis that are like about 14-18-years-old is normal for you, right? Of course it's normal for you, because you like loli games, but because of ntr some people got really angry with me, I can't understand. If you don't like something in my game, please, don't play it. I've changed the ntr-path with Maggie by giving you the choice to avoid it because I hurried with writing her story path. So, after my comment, I ask you not to say another word about ntr and I ask the moderators to block such users, I don't like that some people who love loli characters are trying to shit me because they are disgusted with ntr. Update 0.8.2 will be released soon. Thank you all for your attention, I continue to work at the same pace, the general plot for the next 3 days is almost ready, I will start working on it from about September 15. Of course I hope that the next update won't take as long as this, but life is such a thing that I can't promise anything. That's it.
I think most people are just annoyed that there wasn't any warning that the game would have NTR and when you added it you made it unavoidable. It's ok if you like NTR in games. The same way we enjoy games with loli content, it doesn't mean we like it IRL. It doesn't make you disgusting either. I think people would have a similar reponse if you decided to add gay content without any warning and made it unavoidable. There are some fetishes that people either love it or hate it, and NTR is one of those that people don't like to be surprised with.

Edit: Is the version in the OP the one with the fix for the NTR path or are you still working on that?
 
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I think most people are just annoyed that there wasn't any warning that the game would have NTR and when you added it you made it unavoidable. It's ok if you like NTR in games. The same way we enjoy games with loli content, it doesn't mean we like it IRL. It doesn't make you disgusting either. I think people would have a similar reponse if you decided to add gay content without any warning and made it unavoidable. There are some fetishes that people either love it or hate it, and NTR is one of those that people don't like to be surprised with.

Edit: Is the version in the OP the one with the fix for the NTR path or are you still working on that?
I already have a changed version on my PC, but I'm still checking the game for errors)
 
Hello! Wow, I see some people are so angry with me, yes I like ntr but it doesn't mean I like it in real life, no, it's just my fantasy, but if in real life my girlfriend cheat on me, I would break up with her. And also I don't understand the logic of people who doesn't like ntr, I don't mind that you don't like it, because it's your life and your choice, but there's one thing I can't understand - for you ntr is very very bad and disgusting, but the fact that MC is 37-years-old man who fucks lolis that are like about 14-18-years-old is normal for you, right? Of course it's normal for you, because you like loli games, but because of ntr some people got really angry with me, I can't understand. If you don't like something in my game, please, don't play it. I've changed the ntr-path with Maggie by giving you the choice to avoid it because I hurried with writing her story path. So, after my comment, I ask you not to say another word about ntr and I ask the moderators to block such users, I don't like that some people who love loli characters are trying to shit me because they are disgusted with ntr. Update 0.8.2 will be released soon. Thank you all for your attention, I continue to work at the same pace, the general plot for the next 3 days is almost ready, I will start working on it from about September 15. Of course I hope that the next update won't take as long as this, but life is such a thing that I can't promise anything. That's it.
Ok I am going to step in here and I will probably also step on a few toes...... First off I am also a developer, secondly I am also a player, thirdly I "personally" do not like ntr I put that in quotations because I am also a moderator here and have to stay neutral.
As a developer I clearly state what is and is not going to be in my games using the planned tags to show what players can expect later.... This does not give anything away as to how the story unfolds or who does what but it forewarns people there may be content they do not like. To all of a sudden throw something in I did not tell them was coming.... That's on me and I need to deal with the fall out..... That's why I planned the tags they know what to expect and nothing more than the story being told.
As a player...... AS I said I personally do not like some content and if I am playing a game and something I do not like is thrown in my face while playing... YES I am going to get upset as many here have done and your damn right I am going to say something. That is what happened here. players enjoying the game then boom wtf is this.. one of the tags some players utterly hate..... No I am not kink shaming.. Ya all can like what ever you want I don't care.
As a Moderator I have to come in here and deal with the fall out..... You get the hate but guess what so do the mods when we have to delete stuff or warn members of their actions... All caused by the developers lack of informing the players in advance...... It doesn't just fall on the developer so keep that in mind. What you the developer like is your own business the players need keep that in mind also. The players have no right to bash you on your fetishes' likes no more than you would be allowed to bash theirs. Again it falls on the moderators to clean up those messes. To the users..... You can discuss and ask questions as long as it stays courteous and polite. There will be no bashing allowed and only constructive criticism is allowed.

As for the results of posts in this thread... You did not warn them you shocked them with content they did not expect. so this is on you. I will not defend you in this case I will only make sure they follow the rules. If you do not understand what or why this happened to you I suggest you really think what player base you want and make sure the players know what's coming next.
I am done writing now as my hands are killing me as usual but you should get the point and the players reading should also get the point..... I do not want to have to come back in here.
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Could anyone tell me what they did to make the game menu appear?
I already downloaded it from both servers, unzipped it with winrar and 7-zip and the main menu does not appear.
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And also for those people who has problems with empty main menu. I think the problem is that I've changed a lot code lines in this new version, so that's why your old saves are interfering with the launch of the game properly. I really don't know how to fix it, but I would recommend you delete all your saves from "users>(your user name)>appdata>roaming>renpy>earlylove". or don't delete them, just copy them to another place so you can check if they were the problem
Could anyone tell me what they did to make the game menu appear?
I already downloaded it from both servers, unzipped it with winrar and 7-zip and the main menu does not appear.
Looks like it might be a save issue. I never even heard of this issue before.
 
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Looks like it might be a save issue. I never even heard of this issue before.
I never played the game, I didn't even open it to have a save game. At first I thought it would be because of the translation. I downloaded the game, took a look at the images, liked it, translated it and went to play, but the menu did not appear as in the image. So I downloaded it again and went to play without translating, the menu didn't appear. I downloaded it from another server and unzipped it with another program, and nothing again.
 
Not again I've seen the same thing happen many times on another forum. Anyway you can tell most of the girls were not innocent especially Lori and Maggie. So it wasn't a huge surprise. Now if the daughter all of a sudden sleeps with other men I'm done with this game. Like said before use proper tagging to avoid future misunderstandings.
 
Does anyone have a gallery unlocker?
It's like fucking Christmas - (overwrite files in game folder).

Provided as-is with no support (you can message me directly if you have a problem, I might respond).
 
If the NRT is the thing is about maggie i didn't mind, it made the story interesting, i lean towards incest loli so if lili did something nrt i might not like it.
if mc isn't in her good side, she will send a nude pic to a school friend
 
It's like fucking Christmas - (overwrite files in game folder).

Provided as-is with no support (you can message me directly if you have a problem, I might respond).
Thanks. The zip file unblurs the unachieved gallery scenes, but you can't run them. It also removes the hints as to how to get them. Thanks again for trying, though.
 
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