discussion Anti-Social & Lurker - Hideout spot

[Quetz]

It was hard and it soured a lot of peoples attitudes. This was when trust was first broken. But, whilst many thought the reaction was excessive, it was, at the very least, understandable.

Yeah, I can see that. Certainly for people who took pride in the art they were creating, it would feel like a slap to the face.

The Second Event - The Nuking: When all had settled down, P4 was raging with Art, and people were still chatting out here, the next event loomed. One night, without any warning, P4 just got nuked. Completely deleted off the site. This is when trust fell to dust. Even the mods hadn't been warned. Everything was gone without a chance to collect it. Peoples art work, peoples comments. All of Mimes competitions that he was running daily. Just gone. However, things calmed down a little, and a backup was restored. Not really loosing that much. But then another Purge had to happen. Poor Slum had just become a mod at that point too, so he was mainly in charge of going through. This time, it was regarding the age/realism of the AI Art. Certain art had to be purged - again.

Ouch. Yeah, that'd be enough for me to leave the site and post elsewhere, tbh (if art was a thing I did).
This also makes me wonder what the site's VPN is for. If it's well configured, nobody could retrieve its actual IP address to contact the host with.

And, that brings us here really. P4 is kind of dead. BUT. All the Mods, especially Mime and Guz89, have been working really hard to get something going - speaking with the Owners/Admins - and setting up image verification threads, etc. And now, P5 starting, with a lot of fanfare, it's really encouraging some activity and hope. So... The trust is rebuilding, we're getting there, but you can also see why many are still skeptical.

I was very, very, very skeptical for awhile. But this week is the most positive I've felt about this place in awhile.

Yeah, I'd be skeptical as well. Certainly skeptical enough to not want to pay money to get access. But this can also explain why access to it is so expensive. It seems like the admins want to give these creators a home, but are also very aware and averse to the risk that comes with it.

 

[goons]

It was! And still is!



I can assure you that, even if the numbers feel big, they're reachable. And, also, if you're a productive member of the site, there's users who are rolling in coins that help upstanding people reach their goals.



It's more the consequence of admins ensuring the utmost trust. As you said above, about Points/Coins or Spending Money showing Commitment. They want you to be very commited to get behind P5.

Extra History Lesson!
For any readers who don't know why LC Coins came about in the first place.

As @Quetz has touched on, LC Coins - Bought or Earned - are a form of Trust and Commitment.
Back last year, LC was targeted by a report. At the time, all the games were available and all you had to do was make an account. As many will remember if their accounts are old.
Earning coins was a way of showing you were trustworthy to see beyond just "Adult games" and into "Members+" games. In an attempt to stop the site getting reported - the theory being, anyone spending time or money to earn enough points was unlikely to report the site. It worked, and still works, really well. With the except of when AI Art was being posted out in the open and got struck by a report.

That's also why the Lurker Threads exist, by the way! Because so many of us were Lurkers with no intention of talking, but wanting to make coins...

How the hell does the All... fallen site still exist, I mean they can be nice enough( some are poison level toxic) but I wouldn't want to live near many of them considering I have younger siblings. How does that site still exist?
They also don't have realistic AI art now that I think about it

 

[KaySwitchPrime]

Hate it when anyone calls me

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[Quetz]

While i'm here, here is the new update for Dreamland

Didn't know that game was still being worked on. Played the free version on Steam almost 18 months ago.

That's also why the Lurker Threads exist, by the way! Because so many of us were Lurkers with no intention of talking, but wanting to make coins...

And, at least in my case, this thread has the funny side effect of actively increasing my commitment. I have access to the things I want to have access to, but I'm still checking in regularly.

How the hell does the All... fallen site still exist, I mean they can be nice enough( some are poison level toxic) but I wouldn't want to live near many of them considering I have younger siblings. How does that site still exist?

Probably owned and hosted in a country with very permissive laws regarding its content.

 

[Monokuma]

How the hell does the All... fallen site still exist, I mean they can be nice enough( some are poison level toxic) but I wouldn't want to live near many of them considering I have younger siblings. How does that site still exist?
They also don't have realistic AI art now that I think about it

I don't frequent them, personally. But didn't they recently just struggle from an attack?
LC has never been taken down, they've just been reported - the responses are the Owners own choice. His site, his rules - I don't think we can judge him for being risk-averse given the nature of the thing. All the things I've described have been measures that have been put in place in response. Rather than us hanging on for dear life whilst people attack us.

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By the way, I'm really hoping that if I'm wrong one of the Mods/Backreaders will come by and correct me.
I give them full permission to add a Mod Edit to any of my posts, as I would hate to sow disinformation!

 

[Oberon]

So now that things are being moved behind P5, what's the point in getting any other prestige tier other than visual flair? Seems a waste of coin really

 

[Quetz]

So now that things are being moved behind P5, what's the point in getting any other prestige tier other than visual flair? Seems a waste of coin really

If P5 contains all the previous tiers, there isn't a point to getting others, except to get access to their content earlier.

 

[Monokuma]

So now that things are being moved behind P5, what's the point in getting any other prestige tier other than visual flair? Seems a waste of coin really

Normal Membership = Games
Members+ = More Games
P1 = Your "Likes" are no longer locked behind a timer, meaning can give more frequently
P2 = Aesthetics (I recommend Skipping)
P3 = Aesthetics (I recommend Skipping)
P4 = AI Art
P5 = More AI Art

Basically, P5 is to P4 what Members+ is to Normal Membership, only with AI Art instead of Games.

There is talk of making P1/P2/P3 more useful, but it's a work in progress and takes considerable organisation from the mods.
Since everything was just thrown into P4 as more of a knee jerk reaction, that's where it's stayed. But it could start to trickle down, maybe, that's just my guess right now.

 

[uncbuck]

sure there is...badges are kinda like the pokemon the kids ran around after, gotta collect them all really though the badges do look cool and kinda shows folks you are progressing through the ranks.

Exactly -- Right now you can grind for members + b then beg for a handout to get P1 and a few weeks later buy yourself whatever Having them all shows dedication and swagger

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[Bloodheart]

Welp, I'm off to bed.
Bye everyone, have a good rest of your day/night!
See you all tomorrow!

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Spoiler: night slum nhave a bit of pokemusu

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Tonight, we rest our wings in preparation for tomorrow’s battles.
As the supreme trainer of the mighty chicken army, we are one flap closer to world domination !
Rest well, buddies, for when the sun rises, we will strike with feathers of fury.

See you later all ! Have a good and lewd night !
And remember : tomorrow, the world will be the chiken's one … or at least the grain supply !

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well guys nice sunday night, in out



noice

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Going to sleep little friends, see you tomorrow!

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Good night, deviants!

Spoiler: night poldek

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Have a good night
It's also time for me to go, so see you all tomorrow!

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[Monokuma]

Time for me to sleep!
Nice chatting to you all
Glad I could share some history!

 

[smite22]

Time for me to sleep!
Nice chatting to you all
Glad I could share some history!

have a good one...see you next time

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[Oberon]

If P5 contains all the previous tiers, there isn't a point to getting others, except to get access to their content earlier.

Well that's what I'm getting at. P2 and P3 hold very minor visual customization things, but are also pricy investments of coins that are better spent just sitting in the bank until you hit P4, or now P5. Genuinely you could look at P2 and P3 as hindrances in actually getting things quicker. They're coin sinks as they currently stand, though as Mono says that's liable to maybe change.

 

[uncbuck]

Are you not joining P5?

I want to sit by your bear knees and hear wonderful stories about the promised land -- first - Great to see you Kuma

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[smite22]

Exactly -- Right now you can grind for members + b then beg for a handout to get P1 and a few weeks later buy yourself whatever Having them all shows dedication and swagger

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yes, this is what I was trying to say...my brain was still in the VN I'm reading at the same time I'll put my hat on for that one...

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[uncbuck]

You could, but that felt different. 230k is such a high number its almost like its not meant to be reached.

Nawwwwwwwwwwww once you have over a million you can buy it and hardly feel the bite to your savings - and a million LC is really is not that much

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[Quetz]

Well that's what I'm getting at. P2 and P3 hold very minor visual customization things, but are also pricy investments of coins that are better spent just sitting in the bank until you hit P4, or now P5. Genuinely you could look at P2 and P3 as hindrances in actually getting things quicker. They're coin sinks as they currently stand, though as Mono says that's liable to maybe change.

I think you're right, specially if P4/5 holds any value to you.
Personally, I think it's a good move to only buy a rank when you have at least double its cost in the bank. That way, the other ranks are just a speed bump, and you don't have to start from zero for any new ranks that will be added.

 

[sullys]

Normal Membership = Games
Members+ = More Games
P1 = Your "Likes" are no longer locked behind a timer, meaning can give more frequently
P2 = Aesthetics (I recommend Skipping)
P3 = Aesthetics (I recommend Skipping)
P4 = AI Art
P5 = More AI Art

Basically, P5 is to P4 what Members+ is to Normal Membership, only with AI Art instead of Games.

There is talk of making P1/P2/P3 more useful, but it's a work in progress and takes considerable organisation from the mods.
Since everything was just thrown into P4 as more of a knee jerk reaction, that's where it's stayed. But it could start to trickle down, maybe, that's just my guess right now.

This is the best summary in one place I've seen of the landscape for what levels are. Good work.

 

[killer12312]

hello there

 

[smite22]

I think you're right, specially if P4/5 holds any value to you.
Personally, I think it's a good move to only buy a rank when you have at least double its cost in the bank. That way, the other ranks are just a speed bump, and you don't have to start from zero for any new ranks that will be added.

well I currently have more than double the cost of P3 in the bank but thought I'd wait until I got above what I need for P4 to purchase it for just that reason, so I can still be close to the P4 goal. This also will give me that little ahh feeling to hold me off a bit longer on the P4 jump.