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[MTelly]

You only deserve conzi smelly feet.

 

[Lechrs]

Good night, y'all!

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[scdev]

Let's exercise in Saturday morning

 

[ccxvidonaferens]

A lot of headlines oversell what Disney is asking for, they want the case to go to arbitration instead of a normal trial but a lot of headlines make it sound like they want it dismissed entirely. The ridiculous part that headlines do get correct is that they're arguing that agreeing to arbitration in the context of buying park tickets or signing up for a free trial of D+ can somehow extend to any dispute between Disney and the ticket buyer in any context because the language in the contract is so broad.

There's also the problem that the person who died didn't buy the tickets so they didn't agree to the ToU anyway, which is an even stronger argument but not very sensational.

The reason they want it to go to arbitration is because then with no trial there will be nothing that is made a matter of public record like it would for a trial. No information about food handling processes or how they could have failed to allow the events that caused the death to happen. No park employees being brought in to provide evidence on working conditions/pressures or management and employee communications regarding concerns raised about health and safety isssues, no contract experts being brought in to testify about the legality and ethics of the 'contract' terms and conditions, which depending on how they may have been applied in any other cases that have occured may have wide reaching effects, but probably most importantly from a Disney corporate perspective it kills any reporting that could be considered detrimental to Disney that would cost them even more money on crisis management and reputational repair as well as the cost of appeal after appeal if the initial case went against them and a large set of damages were awarded. I'm sure there are other aspects of a trial that I am not thinking of at the moment that could shed a potentially unflattering light on Disney and it's business practices should it get that far.

 

[anon670-1]

Let's exercise in Saturday morning

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This is the only way to trick me into exercising

 

[bravoswild]

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[LewdSardin]

I am an avid backreader, but, having just joined this site and seeing almost a 1000 pages....

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[ccxvidonaferens]

Huh, alright so a bit of grinding....

Rub up on the nearest Swede!

Here you go, one swede, enjoy.

 

[anon670-1]

I am an avid backreader, but, having just joined this site and seeing almost a 1000 pages....

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I'll pass along some advice from @-Bonk- that I've found extemely helpful during my deep dive back read the past couple days:

A little advice that helped me tremendously. Open 2 tabs, one for the frontline the other where you're backreading. Stay on the frontline !! When it gets slow or every few minutes go chip away a little of the backread. Otherwise you'll always be behind. There was a time for about 2-3 weeks where i got home and had 40-70 pages to read to get caught up. After 6 or so hours i would finally reach the frontline then have to go to sleep. Rinse and repeat. Hope you give this a try, if you do message me and let me know how it's working for ya - Bonky

Also I know you said you are a big back reader but just in case you find this useful here's this Backreaders Team Guide

 

[nvflqop077]

I've largely given up back reading. 20-30 pages every time I sign in? Nah, I'll see the quotes for the past 2-3 pages and see what's interesting.

 

[LewdSardin]

I think for a thread like this I'll skip the backreading, I'll just pop in once in a while, fast scroll past all the gifs, and pop back out

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You won't bait me into it, anon670-1! I am stronger than that!

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[-Bonk-]

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Hello my fabulous fuckos !!!

 

[SJMagic]

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I hate going to car lots but everyone in my area thinks their used car is the same price as dealer cars...

 

[jimjimson]

I think for a thread like this I'll skip the backreading, I'll just pop in once in a while, fast scroll past all the gifs, and pop back out

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You won't bait me into it, anon670-1! I am stronger than that!

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That seems to be my strategy too

 

[LewdSardin]

@-Bonk- : I'm sure I know your avatar but I can't for the life of me place it, what game is it from?

 

[-Bonk-]

@-Bonk- : I'm sure I know your avatar but I can't for the life of me place it, what game is it from?

That is the adorable Amelia from Ravenous

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[Amman]

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Hello my fabulous fuckos !!!

Hi Bonk, sorry to hear about the golf, not a sport I could ever get into even though most people I work with play it

 

[LewdSardin]

That is the adorable Amelia from Ravenous

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Aaaah, tyvm! I knew I saw that adorable lazy eyed look somewhere! I love Amelia

 

[HTYYHRK]

The reason they want it to go to arbitration is because then with no trial there will be nothing that is made a matter of public record like it would for a trial. No information about food handling processes or how they could have failed to allow the events that caused the death to happen. No park employees being brought in to provide evidence on working conditions/pressures or management and employee communications regarding concerns raised about health and safety isssues, no contract experts being brought in to testify about the legality and ethics of the 'contract' terms and conditions, which depending on how they may have been applied in any other cases that have occured may have wide reaching effects, but probably most importantly from a Disney corporate perspective it kills any reporting that could be considered detrimental to Disney that would cost them even more money on crisis management and reputational repair as well as the cost of appeal after appeal if the initial case went against them and a large set of damages were awarded. I'm sure there are other aspects of a trial that I am not thinking of at the moment that could shed a potentially unflattering light on Disney and it's business practices should it get that far.

I agree with you that Disney is asking for it because they think arbitration puts them in a better position than a trial. But the idea that the TOC for a park ticket applies at all is the part that's unconscionable, I'd imagine you could have a contract to do some dangerous work where the parties could agree to arbitration for injury or wrongful death claims, but in that case both parties are aware that's what they are agreeing to.

 

[-Bonk-]

Hi Bonk, sorry to hear about the golf, not a sport I could ever get into even though most people I work with play it

Lol, i have done that very thing 2-3 times and thrown a club into the lake a
few times. It is a hard game to accel at. For me it's about the company, fresh
air, and the cart girls Anyways, good morning and great to see you. A little
breakfast cookie for ya brother

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