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[Ewasuw]

We both know you meant to say..

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So..

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I never lie.

 

[Evil Surgeon]

You had a plan?

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That's all.. no, wait.. why am I even replying to that?

 

[KaySwitchPrime]

I love botany and nature....

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My favorite color is green, but I hate gardening, but I did a lot of gardening the past two days and didn't hate it as much as I thought I would.

Gardens in buildings...

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[tatonka123]

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[Underlord]

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That's all.. no, wait.. why am I even replying to that?

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My favorite color is green, but I hate gardening, but I did a lot of gardening the past two days and didn't hate it as much as I thought I would.

Gardens in buildings...

Gardens are too much effort....

 

[Evil Surgeon]

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[Noci]

my animation got taken down from e621 after being approved there for more than a month
love the mental gymnastics those jannies have

other than another troublesome forum's booru, and a certain other parallel site to this one, do you guys know other places where one could post a boy... let's say stumbling into a funny robot?

also fumo thread is on 20k views lmao

 

[Evil Surgeon]

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Gardens are too much effort....

Deal with it?

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[Deleted member 162149]

My favorite color is green, but I hate gardening, but I did a lot of gardening the past two days and didn't hate it as much as I thought I would.

Gardens in buildings...

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I would like to get into gardening but it does seem tough

 

[Ewasuw]

I would like to get into gardening but it does seem tough

Then combine gardening with painting.

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[uncbuck]

Everything is buzzing along so fast this morning it is gonna make me go take a nap whilst my intake filters reset.

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[Deleted member 162149]

Then combine gardening with painting.

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I would love to but if there's one thing I'm worse at than yard work, it's painting lol

 

[Ewasuw]

I would love to but if there's one thing I'm worse at than yard work, it's painting lol

Then you have no choice - become a politician.

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[Deleted member 162149]

Then you have no choice - become a politician.

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I dunno, I feel like history shows those who fail at art shouldnt become politicians.

 

[User_61141]

I dunno, I feel like history shows those who fail at art shouldnt become politicians.

go for it son, I believe in you

 

[tatonka123]

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I dunno, I feel like history shows those who fail at art shouldnt become politicians.

Red tape is a form of art, from a certain perspective

 

[Deleted member 162149]

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Red tape is a form of art, from a certain perspective

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See that art id be more likely to participate in

 

[PreviousGene]

I can provide my analysis on the trans issue in a spoiler:

Spoiler: terribly political

Spoiler: No, really, it starts out with the political part

Spoiler: The political part

The LGB, T+ stuff has been wielded by some as a hammer to break western society so that it can be remade. It's also been a purity test to see who is either a true believer or who will at least be a useful 'idiot' (who does the revolutionists' bidding thinking that they're just being righteous). One issue is that it's not going to be the LGB, T+ people who will rebuild the society, but those with the power and resources. Note that revolutionaries often (not always) use universities as ignition points, but then after the revolution's success (often, not always) remove the academics (Russia→USSR, Iran after the deposition of the Shah, China in the Cultural revolution). The action of the revolution is not the end point, the rebuilding is, and the powerful and resource-rich hold all those cards. Also, the revolutionaries are ripe for getting swept off of their win if they are weakened by the fight (see the bolshevik revolution, china after WWII). Plus after the revolution, an individual or group can easily co-opt the resulting government for their own enrichment. It's very hard to resist for those in power and to prevent for those governed. LGB, T+ groups are being used either with or without their knowledge and consent to damage their home societies. And I will oppose the changing of 95%+ of society to adapt to 2-3% of folks who are unable, or unwilling, to find a place in it for whatever reason.

That's the political part.

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I see 3 classes of trans folks:
1: Intersex folks with observable biology that does not conform to the vast majority (99.9% is a vast majority) of human biology have real decisions that in the past had been made for them, and often made for their parents, by doctors. If there were real research that were ethical, it might be possible to determine when and if surgical intervention is best. I suspect that those individuals would be best served by preserving any functioning gonads that might exist, but have only my own understanding and life experience to back that up. These people are by far the smallest group, but have the benefit of observable biology to help with their coping with life outside the norm. Since they (and anyone they care to involve) can see the differences, not just feel or believe them, they have a tangible 'touchstone' to anchor to and make adjustments from there.

2: The folks who are truly of the impression that their observable biology is at odds with their persona have a hard road, since their mental state is not shown in their observable biology. Permanent, that is irreversible, changes to their body are just that: irreversible. That should be the last resort and only after adulthood. As with having sex, only an adult can consent to these permanent changes, one of the greatest of which is permanent sterility. Since the pharmaceutical and surgical changes are irreversible, they should be used once all other paths of trying to accept or deal with their observable biology have been exhausted. If in the future the sterility were to become reversible, then the newly non-permanent changes might be very helpful.

3: There are and have been many people who seek attention for a long time. If it's outré but trendy, they are it! Because being trans, or on a spectrum of other sexual identities, is socially unassailable, the attention seekers get cover from anyone calling them out publicly, since saying that a gay, non-binary, or trans person is faking it is social suicide. I suspect that attention seekers existence inflates both the transition reversal ("I didn't really mean it!") and the suicide numbers [attempted and successful both]. That second is inflated because attempting suicide is not soloely a call for help, but can be a way to get attention that some exploit. A noticeable proportion of the LGB, T+ community falls into the attention-seeking category.

The first two groups need help (in whatever forms are successful in their individual cases) to get themselves as comfortable as they are able to be with reality. The last group needs to get their attention seeking fixed in some fashion. I want help for the intersex and truly confused people. For the attention seekers, I am unwilling to enable their behavior, and they damage the other two groups' legitimacy, making those with legitimate troubles easier to dismiss as attention-seeking.

Fantastic breakdown and nearly perfectly mirrors many of my own views of the issue.
Though I wouldn't be quite as tactful and spew far more vitriol when talking about the 3:rd group.

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Edit: I Got

Seems poor KaityCat is going to have to survive my current genes.
No more hiding in a corner for you @KaityCat.

 

[Ausy]

YAS! I love it! Here's one I found...

Poison Ivy is so fine, very underused nowadays

 

[Ewasuw]

Poison Ivy is so fine, very underused nowadays

I would say that it is little used because it is poisonous.

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