discussion Abandoned VN Ren'Py EGBE [Prologue v0.3.3b] [Ketzal]

[Nicest_Incest]

People were making deep fakes of real underage people and using them to conduct harassment. Fuck off with that opinion, we don't need AI doing stupid bullshit like that.

They could also do that with Photoshop as well for the past 20+ years, it was simply a case of more skill and effort back then. Like any tool it depends on the one using it, not the tool itself, but aside from what anyone wants that genie done left the bottle and isn't going back in it so might has well make use of it for us AVN perverts. As far as I'm concerned AI can replace every human job including politicians under a 1-world gov't and I'd be fine with that, using it to make any type of porn is even less of a concern to me, even when based on deepfakes of celebs, exes, or whoever. Simply typing "celebrity XXX naked" in Google Image or similar is nothing new, and has turned up both leaked and Photoshopped versions of what you are looking for most of the time and has done so for decades (1990's, probably the first internet porn was celebrity fakes aside from Playboy scans and similar), letting AI do it vs horny fans with too much time on their hands isn't much different to me. In short as far as underage harassment that's going to happen AI or no AI if someone is hellbent on doing that for whatever reason, other tools to do so already exist. It's similar to thinking banning guns would stop murders when all that would accomplish is people either making their own with garage scrap or switching to machetes and crossbows.

 

[sharkz]

I'm really appreciative. Did he also share the framework of how the story will evolve? We were really left hanging with the Twins' mom walking in or with Lori telling us to follow her to the apartment. I managed to squeeze the Twins past Grok a few minutes ago as an AI tribute to that great prologue. Grok didn't let me go below the waist. I tried like crazy for full body shots.

Gotta say these look real smooth and despite the hate against AI from many, i do like it.

 

[Dark Games]

I'm really appreciative. Did he also share the framework of how the story will evolve? We were really left hanging with the Twins' mom walking in or with Lori telling us to follow her to the apartment. I managed to squeeze the Twins past Grok a few minutes ago as an AI tribute to that great prologue. Grok didn't let me go below the waist. I tried like crazy for full body shots.

I have the entire story. EVERYTHING!
I’ll make a few changes, but you won’t notice them since they’re related to the story and things that haven’t been shown yet.
I’m going to tweak the models slightly. Different hairstyles and a slightly younger look for some, while others won’t change at all.
I’m going to use AI for the animations, because I don’t know how to do it in DAZ or BLENDER, plus I don’t have the time, and I’d be really surprised if people wanted to support my work.

 

[sharkz]

I have the entire story. EVERYTHING!
I’ll make a few changes, but you won’t notice them since they’re related to the story and things that haven’t been shown yet.
I’m going to tweak the models slightly. Different hairstyles and a slightly younger look for some, while others won’t change at all.
I’m going to use AI for the animations, because I don’t know how to do it in DAZ or BLENDER, plus I don’t have the time, and I’d be really surprised if people wanted to support my work.

Then you're in for a ride if you're thinking that people wouldn't support you.

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[Dario]

I have the entire story. EVERYTHING!
I’ll make a few changes, but you won’t notice them since they’re related to the story and things that haven’t been shown yet.
I’m going to tweak the models slightly. Different hairstyles and a slightly younger look for some, while others won’t change at all.
I’m going to use AI for the animations, because I don’t know how to do it in DAZ or BLENDER, plus I don’t have the time, and I’d be really surprised if people wanted to support my work.

Great to hear! SSP was epic, but there is just something about EGBE that was driving me wild, and it was a great escape from some IRL shit I was dealing with. Lori and the Twins are incredible, and also loved Marie and Sasha, maybe it’s packing so many cuties and so much teasing and action into just a prologue that made it so good. A good loli and hebe balance should keep everyone happy. AI is getting better by the second, so it should look great.

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Gotta say these look real smooth and despite the hate against AI from many, i do like it.

AI just gets better and better. There is lots of lazy slop here and in general for sure. These outputs require patience and lots of prompt tweaking.

 

[Octarinebeard]

I have the entire story. EVERYTHING!
I’ll make a few changes, but you won’t notice them since they’re related to the story and things that haven’t been shown yet.
I’m going to tweak the models slightly. Different hairstyles and a slightly younger look for some, while others won’t change at all.
I’m going to use AI for the animations, because I don’t know how to do it in DAZ or BLENDER, plus I don’t have the time, and I’d be really surprised if people wanted to support my work.

I’m broke as fuck most of the time, but so long as it was through a way that lets me use a pre-paid card or whatever, so I wouldn’t have to attach my real credit/debit card info, I’d still 100% find a bit of cash to throw at you every now and then in thanks for all your efforts to bring back this game. Seriously, you have no idea how excited I am to see the first release!

 

[BadJM]

I have the entire story. EVERYTHING!
I’ll make a few changes, but you won’t notice them since they’re related to the story and things that haven’t been shown yet.
I’m going to tweak the models slightly. Different hairstyles and a slightly younger look for some, while others won’t change at all.
I’m going to use AI for the animations, because I don’t know how to do it in DAZ or BLENDER, plus I don’t have the time, and I’d be really surprised if people wanted to support my work.

In my opinion, if you don't know how to do animations in DAZ or blender, I think it would probably be better to just stick with static renders for the sex scenes. AI animations are getting better but in most cases they still look weird and make the faces of the characters look completely different.

 

[LoveAVN4ever]

I have the entire story. EVERYTHING!
I’ll make a few changes, but you won’t notice them since they’re related to the story and things that haven’t been shown yet.
I’m going to tweak the models slightly. Different hairstyles and a slightly younger look for some, while others won’t change at all.
I’m going to use AI for the animations, because I don’t know how to do it in DAZ or BLENDER, plus I don’t have the time, and I’d be really surprised if people wanted to support my work.

Ain't nothing surprising about it! You will get the support because people love EGBE! Also, if you're looking for an AI animations guy I can connect you with someone. I know for a fact he would 100% be happy to help you with that

 

[kbakon]

Just a quick update to show that I'm making progress. Slowly but surely, we're getting there.

You are the hero we needed!

 

[sharkz]

In my opinion, if you don't know how to do animations in DAZ or blender, I think it would probably be better to just stick with static renders for the sex scenes. AI animations are getting better but in most cases they still look weird and make the faces of the characters look completely different.

Good for us all you're not the Dev.

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[yoyomistro]

They could also do that with Photoshop as well for the past 20+ years, it was simply a case of more skill and effort back then. Like any tool it depends on the one using it, not the tool itself, but aside from what anyone wants that genie done left the bottle and isn't going back in it so might has well make use of it for us AVN perverts. As far as I'm concerned AI can replace every human job including politicians under a 1-world gov't and I'd be fine with that, using it to make any type of porn is even less of a concern to me, even when based on deepfakes of celebs, exes, or whoever. Simply typing "celebrity XXX naked" in Google Image or similar is nothing new, and has turned up both leaked and Photoshopped versions of what you are looking for most of the time and has done so for decades (1990's, probably the first internet porn was celebrity fakes aside from Playboy scans and similar), letting AI do it vs horny fans with too much time on their hands isn't much different to me. In short as far as underage harassment that's going to happen AI or no AI if someone is hellbent on doing that for whatever reason, other tools to do so already exist. It's similar to thinking banning guns would stop murders when all that would accomplish is people either making their own with garage scrap or switching to machetes and crossbows.

By that logic you could do the same thing with a photo album, a pair of scissors, and a Penthouse magazine. Each step makes it easier, more efficient, and more accessible to bad actors. You can mass kill people with a knife, or a car, but a grenade launcher would make it easier and faster so we don't allow those. Also we don't know exactly how AI makes those images, all the more reason to disallow that information to feed the black box. There are so many points where this logic fails. I usually don't mind your sociopathy, but I really don't get your let-AI-do-whatever stance, and I say that as someone who's been pro-AI for over 20 years. Not a fan of LLM creative work at all, though, and definitely not a fan of people using it to commit crimes and harassment. I know you don't really care, but spend some time to look into actual victims of this crap, especially those under the age of majority, and realize it's more widespread than whatever stories are public. This is veering a bit too off course, but whatever I think of AI in art, at least there is an argument for that in a functional society. There's no functional world I want to live in where a student should be at risk of waking up and going to school one day and everyone has hyperealistic deepfakes of them on their phones, with no recourse.

 

[BadJM]

Good for us all you're not the Dev.

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Yea at the end of the day it's his decision. I just think that AI animations, most of the time don't look that good.

 

[Nicest_Incest]

By that logic you could do the same thing with a photo album, a pair of scissors, and a Penthouse magazine. Each step makes it easier, more efficient, and more accessible to bad actors. You can mass kill people with a knife, or a car, but a grenade launcher would make it easier and faster so we don't allow those. Also we don't know exactly how AI makes those images, all the more reason to disallow that information to feed the black box. There are so many points where this logic fails. I usually don't mind your sociopathy, but I really don't get your let-AI-do-whatever stance, and I say that as someone who's been pro-AI for over 20 years. Not a fan of LLM creative work at all, though, and definitely not a fan of people using it to commit crimes and harassment. I know you don't really care, but spend some time to look into actual victims of this crap, especially those under the age of majority, and realize it's more widespread than whatever stories are public. This is veering a bit too off course, but whatever I think of AI in art, at least there is an argument for that in a functional society. There's no functional world I want to live in where a student should be at risk of waking up and going to school one day and everyone has hyperealistic deepfakes of them on their phones, with no recourse.

That will be the new normal soon enough so no one will still care, as it will be so common the people who actually know them will assume they are fake if they are not the type to do porn. For awhile Taylor Swift was the most photoshopped and deepfaked celeb on the planet, and her take was essentially (paraphrasing) "let them cut and paste my head on porn stars all they want, I don't do nudes so I don't care". Altogether ignoring it is probably the best policy as all bitching about it and suing endless legions would accomplish is Streisand Effecting it to where it goes even more viral. Sure, you could outlaw it but that's not very effective either if enough people want to see someone naked bad enough when they can't even keep real C P off the net despite 150+ gov'ts trying for 30+ years (it has always ebbed and flowed more with demand from the world's 200M ped0s than legal action), and thanks to AI those floodgates are about to open to where if everyone was actually arrested for it there'd not be enough tax money left to actually run the rest of a country. Of course AI is also a solution to the fake celeb part of that. How? Things like Tilly Norwood (AI actress, basically an avatar controlled by off-camera human-worn body suits before robots start wearing them): no one will want to see what you look like naked if they don't know what you actually look like in the first place.
In the bigger picture the rise of AI and the re-writing of obsolete societal norms is the least of our problems with orange megalomaniacs and people like him in power attacking a country with control of 20% of the world's oil supply and thinking everything for everyone on the whole planet would be fine after. Those ripple effects are just getting started even if that shit-show ended tomorrow. It couldn't have gone much worse had he decided to sucker-punch-nuke China because he doesn't like the way they treat Taiwan, though that would have been a faster catastrophe with a quicker end after they retaliated.

 

[ForgetMe]

Yea at the end of the day it's his decision. I just think that AI animations, most of the time don't look that good.

100% agree.

 

[Nicest_Incest]

Yea at the end of the day it's his decision. I just think that AI animations, most of the time don't look that good.

The Jason and Babysitters reworks turned out ok as far as the AI fucking goes, even if as usual most would rather see the story continued rather than reworked.

 

[Redyscom]

@yoyomistro @Nicest_Incest

I really appreciate it when people discuss a topic in such an organized and respectful manner, especially since discussions like that are interesting.

That said, this post isn't the place for that, and it was already getting a bit political. I'm just pointing this out so you don't run into trouble with the other mods. Please relax—this isn't a scolding. I just don't want either of you to get into trouble over something like this, especially since, as I said, what you're both discussing is actually quite interesting.

 

[Dario]

More AI fun, this time with my clear favorite Lori. Please, try to keep Lori as close to the adorable original as possible for the EGBE resurrection! I'm spreading the good news to other Ketzal fans.

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[yoyomistro]

@yoyomistro @Nicest_Incest

I really appreciate it when people discuss a topic in such an organized and respectful manner, especially since discussions like that are interesting.

That said, this post isn't the place for that, and it was already getting a bit political. I'm just pointing this out so you don't run into trouble with the other mods. Please relax—this isn't a scolding. I just don't want either of you to get into trouble over something like this, especially since, as I said, what you're both discussing is actually quite interesting.

Thanks wasn't planning on talking about it more than that. Glad the game appears to be back, and with K's blessing. Hopefully it lives up to the original.

 

[LoveAVN4ever]

Thanks wasn't planning on talking about it more than that. Glad the game appears to be back, and with K's blessing. Hopefully it lives up to the original.

Shouldn't be difficult. We didn't get much of the original game. So as long as we get similar to before we should be golden

 

[highlrecommend]

not reading the last 5 pages.

new update or its not true