Maybe I didn't express myself well, so I'll give you an example of what I expect. There is an animation playing (by the way, I just saw the animation in Sunhine Love with this redhead and it is great) during this animation there is text and the characters are talking to each other during this sex and it is supposed to last at least a few panels, then it jumps to the next animation and again a few panels text because in DMD and Melody it was at most one line of text or none at all. If you confirm that this is the case, I'll put it on the list and I'll be looking forward to playing itThey're indeed all more VNs than adult games at this point, and there aren't a crapton of scenes, but I'd say Sunshine Love is the most fun of the three. Maybe it has to do with the atmosphere as you're on a summer vibe, but the characters are good especially Shortcake (the smaller redhead) and I do believe there was enough dirty talk but no degradation (I don't think it suits the creator's vibes). I played it rather recently and I did enjoy it. But be advised that it remains a VN first since it's from that creator. It might indeed be a tad boring but not uninteresting.
I have played over 600 games so I'm sure I could find games in my list that suit most of your criteria but I'm not sure about the last one (girls mulling over and over about it being incest and stuff). They can't all be gems like Lockheart's games (the Rose Garden trilogy - A Petal Among Thorns, A Moment Of Bliss, Over The Moon).
The trilogy is nowhere near Avalon level. The first game is a bit simpler and has less content because it's only about the father and one daughter, but A Moment Of Bliss is where it shines the most. I even shed a tear or two in it. That one is probably one of the best games out there.Maybe I didn't express myself well, so I'll give you an example of what I expect. There is an animation playing (by the way, I just saw the animation in Sunhine Love with this redhead and it is great) during this animation there is text and the characters are talking to each other during this sex and it is supposed to last at least a few panels, then it jumps to the next animation and again a few panels text because in DMD and Melody it was at most one line of text or none at all. If you confirm that this is the case, I'll put it on the list and I'll be looking forward to playing it
As for Lockheart games, I played Avalon and if the trilogy is the same level then I say no, even someone had previously confirmed to me that these games are boring. I emphasize that the game must meet all 4 of my criteria, and if sex is only a few lines of text, it is out of the question, but I will definitely play it someday. About mulling, let's not exaggerate on the other side that she should constantly moan that she doesn't want it. As I wrote, there are different girls, some are easy and do not need to be encouraged because they want it and think about it, and some need to be encouraged somehow, either through force or love. I hope you understand me now. Let me give you an example of the game Motherless - after 5 minutes all women want to fuck him when they see the hero, there is no relationship building or tension. Just a quick fap. When I started this topic, I wanted to know if I could count on something more, so I provided these 4 criteria, I could do more, but then it would turn out that there is no such game![]()
Apocalypse is in the game+ section, page3I can't find "Apocalypse" , anyone have a link?
I once read about this game, now abandoned. And I'm in a dilemma whether to trust your opinion or not because I don't like it visually and from what I remember, the creator switches from Koikatsu to Honey Select during the game, which takes away from the game's realism. Ok, when the creator finishes it, I'll play itYou should try Long Lost Daughter. I made a game request for it. This one goes pretty far down the rabbit hole regarding the incest theme. Now for your criteria:
1. No, it is not complete. Last update was 2 years back, but the creator still shows signs of life.
2. Yes, you have to work for relationships. Some come easy, some harder, but that's logically, because in order to have family members you'll have to create them first.
3. Yes, sex scenes are long and come quiet regularly.
4. Yes, same as 2.
I also like Motherless despite their flaws. Ok, I'm not pressuring you, but if you want, I'll be happy to thank you. Just try to follow my criteria. You don't have to read all the posts, just read my first post, I try to catch everyone's suggestions and write them downThe trilogy is nowhere near Avalon level. The first game is a bit simpler and has less content because it's only about the father and one daughter, but A Moment Of Bliss is where it shines the most. I even shed a tear or two in it. That one is probably one of the best games out there.
Edit : And I do agree that Motherless is kind of an extreme example as all women jump on MC within seconds, but I still liked the game overall because of the story. But hey if you are saying the requirements aren't too tight then I can look up my list. I may not look at previous posts tho as it would be too exhausting to explore whether or not X or Y game has already been recommended, so I'll just include them all.
It all depends on your own preferences. I rather have a captivating story with bad/weird art, than good art but a overused or dragged out story line.I once read about this game, now abandoned. And I'm in a dilemma whether to trust your opinion or not because I don't like it visually and from what I remember, the creator switches from Koikatsu to Honey Select during the game, which takes away from the game's realism. Ok, when the creator finishes it, I'll play it![]()
yeah me too but I also like building tension between the characters and that's the most important thing to me. You're confusing me, I'll have to find out for myselfIt all depends on your own preferences. I rather have a captivating story with bad/weird art, than good art but a overused or dragged out story line.
I will try it ty broRavenous is one that I'm enjoying. Decent story to go with some cute models.
Already played that one its good'Oh Daddy' has some great ones
will try it already made a huge list here hahaha tySummer Camp
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Yeah there a lot of ppl how like that type of boobs not my case ofc i have a friend how like playing omg i forgot the name of the game but its a game in a island that have alot of girls with monstrous boobsI agree, we need more games with realistic sized boobs. i wonder if theres a lot of peaple who like those too big boobs ?
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