discussion Poll: Rank Shop Changes (Vote)

[Jack Of Blades]

Which direction should LC take with rank purchases?


Option 1 - Keep current system (no changes)

• Keep the shop and rank purchase rules exactly as they are right now.

Option 2 - Simplify + cheaper (remove coin-based rank buying)

• Reduce the shop to 3 ranks total
• Lower coin/credit costs significantly
• Remove the ability to buy ranks using Activity Coins / Pulse Coins (Members+ is the only exception)

Important: Nobody is losing ranks.
This change would only make certain ranks unobtainable going forward.

 

[dalzomo]

>This change would only make certain ranks unobtainable going forward.

I'm always going to be in favor of simplify/cheaper but before I vote I have to ask, what would be done about the unobtainable ranks? Would they become flex only and the boards they give access to become accessible via other means?

 

[Deleted member 157058]

Remove the ability to buy ranks using Activity Coins / Pulse Coins (Members+ is the only exception)

So no possibility getting higher ranks without leaving a trail of money?
Actually paying you to get to share art?
Or am I misreading that?
I'm no native speaker so It can be.

 

[Jack Of Blades]

So no possibility getting higher ranks without leaving a trail of money?
Actually paying you to get to share art?
Or am I misreading that?
I'm no native speaker so It can be.

no just members+

 

[Oakbender]

Which direction should LC take with rank purchases?


Option 1 - Keep current system (no changes)

• Keep the shop and rank purchase rules exactly as they are right now.

Option 2 - Simplify + cheaper (remove coin-based rank buying)

• Reduce the shop to 3 ranks total
• Lower coin/credit costs significantly
• Remove the ability to buy ranks using Activity Coins / Pulse Coins (Members+ is the only exception)

Important: Nobody is losing ranks.
This change would only make certain ranks unobtainable going forward.

I think a clearer and more detailed plan should be needed before a vote or decision gets made so that the implications of what these would mean are known before hand.

Right now these read like blind choices to me as option 2 is vague enough that it could mean almost anything.
If you reduce the number of ranks, what happens to the ranks that were removed and the perks/areas of the site related to them.
If activity coin/pulse coin purchasing of ranks is lost does that mean the additional ranks become paid only?
If they 3 ranks available are earnable what is the plan for being able to earn them?

I think theses questions and possibly more that I haven't initially thought of need fleshing out before decisions get made.

 

[Quetz]

Just my own subjective experience... If it weren't for the bank, I wouldn't check this site daily now. It's a habit I built over the past year, and I probably wouldn't be here now if it wasn't for that daily thing motivating me to come back.
For me, Games+ is a very small motivator with only 3-4 games on there that interest me. Checking those 2 times a year would be plenty. The other ranks I bought because it was said they were going away (FOMO), but after seeing their content, it's clear they aren't for me.

I get that the core issue you're trying to address is turning visitors into active participants. You want people to chat about games, and you're completely right; that's what a forum is for.
The issue, in my opinion, is that coins are seen as a means to an end instead of just something fun for people to do. And maybe that's the part that needs to be reconsidered instead? You can build a theater, but if you don't put on plays, the seats will remain empty.
How can you turn the coins into something that's entertaining instead of (just) a gate for content that people can also bypass by donating? Maybe more gamification can be considered? Something like daily quests asking people to comment, react to posts, or review games. Perhaps quests could even suggest new and/or trending games to play and review, and so on.

The 'other site' is talked down to on this forum, but at the end of the day, that site is running without technical or financial issues. Marketing-wise, the slogan of "we're the same but have more games than fuck95" doesn't work. You're not doing anything unique, so the main draw are the few games that are banned there. You can observe that this is happening, very few non-games+ games show up in the popular or trending tabs of the ticker.

All of this to say: before making any changes, make sure those plans are in line with the core values of yourself and LC and actually beneficial for its growth.

 

[Wooshi]

As an aside, what is the KNIGHT badge, and how is it acquired?

 

[Jack Of Blades]

As an aside, what is the KNIGHT badge, and how is it acquired?

which knight badge

 

[Twigless Leaf]

which knight badge

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[Jack Of Blades]

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ah it is a prestige level. Shop

 

[Wooshi]

ah it is a prestige level. Shop

I don't see it in the KNIGHT badge in the shop.
I have other prestige badges.
I'm wondering how to get the KNIGHT badge.

 

[ErzuzB]

I don't see it in the KNIGHT badge in the shop.
I have other prestige badges.
I'm wondering how to get the KNIGHT badge.

It's this one
-> Cosmetic p2 & p3 Banners
But it only lasts for 3 months

 

[Dnj]

In the absence of a clear explanation of option 2, I vote for option 1. Also, does anyone know how to obtain Pulse Coins? I don't recall seeing a guide on how to get that currency or what it's used for.

 

[Jack Of Blades]

In the absence of a clear explanation of option 2, I vote for option 1. Also, does anyone know how to obtain Pulse Coins? I don't recall seeing a guide on how to get that currency or what it's used for.

this thread is no longer taking place, nor is pulse coin. we are sticking with ac

 

[Wooshi]

It's this one
-> Cosmetic p2 & p3 Banners
But it only lasts for 3 months

I just purchased this to see if what you are saying is correct, which you are.

Back when the ranks were P1-P5, I purchased each in sequential order over time, so that I would have every badge.
I even grabbed P6 when it came out.

So that begs the question:
Why would I not have received/retained the KNIGHT badge?

 

[ErzuzB]

Why would I not have received/retained the KNIGHT badge?

The P2 (Knight) and P3 (Immortal) ranks got removed because they where merged into other ranks. Of course this removed the badges/banners too.
However, back then they still had the pokemon themes (which where a bit more visually interesting than the current ones) and some users wanted them to beautfy their postbits, Heisenberg/Jack of Blades made a new item that gave those badges.

But since the ranks had already been removed and I assume it would have been not easy to find out who had the old ones after that, nobody got it as a replacement.
Furthermore, the new item only last 3 month and the change is older than that, so even if we all had recieved it, it would have already expired anyway by now.

 

[Shawnchapp]

I just purchased this to see if what you are saying is correct, which you are.

Back when the ranks were P1-P5, I purchased each in sequential order over time, so that I would have every badge.
I even grabbed P6 when it came out.

So that begs the question:
Why would I not have received/retained the KNIGHT badge?

you already have it.....

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[Oakbender]

you already have it.....

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I mean yea, they said they just bought the temporary badge thing in the shop

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[Shawnchapp]

I mean yea, they said they just bought the temporary badge thing in the shop

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they also said they didn't have itm pointing out they do indeed have the badge.

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[Oakbender]

they also said they didn't have itm pointing out they do indeed have the badge.

Sure but that was in reference to them saying they've previously purchased each of the ranks individually before the perks for P2 & 3 were merged down into P1.
Thus thought they should have had it without needing to purchase the badges again, which they did and is why they now have the badge but claimed they didn't previously.

Unless I'm being thick and overlooking something.