discussion What AVN Tropes Annoy You?

[ACBandit]

I don't think there's any reason you couldn't tell a very interesting story about someone without giving them a deus ex machina wealth glitch. And really, plenty of games do exactly that- if anything, a character having normal money worries opens up story possibilities as they try to resolve/manage them.

I don't mind a wealthy character (Like Friends in Need, which is one of my favs), but make it interesting if he is. If he isn't wealthy or doesn't have a job, then lives like he's upper middle class or better...WTH?

 

[AlBetGam]

I don't mind a wealthy character (Like Friends in Need, which is one of my favs), but make it interesting if he is. If he isn't wealthy or doesn't have a job, then lives like he's upper middle class or better...WTH?

Friends in Need is a great example where the wealth is actually a driving element of the story. And just a great game in general.

 

[nsixx89]

The college trope annoys me, its overdone, and gets boring

 

[Sural Argonus]

Not every AVN dev has a masters degree in creative writing...but yeah...some of them are just quite overused. "Accidentally seeing each other naked in the bathroom", the dumb friend and the horse dicked MC are too common.

I honestly want to get back into developing, but I know my writing skills are shit...so I want to improve them before I really get back into it...now that most of my medical issues are sort of under control...maybe...

 

[herot32]

The one that always drives me crazy is that women see the MC's huge dick and THAT'S what drives them into a sexual frenzy. I don't know how many actual live women you know, but the number of them that see a huge dick and go "oh yes, absolutely" is freakin' tiny. Most women when seeing a really huge dick will go "oh that's going to hurt like hell" and do not immediately crave having their cervix slammed or their walls stretched.

 

[Tosser]

The one that always drives me crazy is that women see the MC's huge dick and THAT'S what drives them into a sexual frenzy. I don't know how many actual live women you know, but the number of them that see a huge dick and go "oh yes, absolutely" is freakin' tiny. Most women when seeing a really huge dick will go "oh that's going to hurt like hell" and do not immediately crave having their cervix slammed or their walls stretched.

I remember a couple of different vids I saw where women talked about size - I think one was an Audri-Asauna vid (yoga/stretching) that had two women in it and another was an interview type session with a professional porn actress. In each case, none of them really liked "porn dicks". One of them was smaller and she said 4-5 inches hit her spots perfectly as long as there was some decent girth, while the others liked 6-7 inches better for "enjoying themselves". Of course knowing how to use it and do other things (fast and quick like a bunny isn't something most women want for every meal) to arouse and get them on edge were also important. Sex is an art as much as it is an activity. Guys claiming to be alphas that figure women want to be "taken" all the time are really pretty damned stupid, even if they do seem to get around. Most of them probably have large numbers of partners because no one wants them more than once or twice.

 

[MarrowBone]

I would go with the one where you play the "perfect guy" who winks at every woman once, having them go absolutely crazy. I don't mind a charming MC, but having an unnaturally irresistable MC makes it seem kinda cheap honestly.

But the worst thing possible is when the game makes it seem that your choices and decisions matter only to find out thats not true at all.

 

[Tosser]

I would go with the one where you play the "perfect guy" who winks at every woman once, having them go absolutely crazy. I don't mind a charming MC, but having an unnaturally irresistable MC makes it seem kinda cheap honestly.

Don't know if you've played any "Doc5252", now "AbereLucifer" VNs, but he turned that trope on it's head in his VN 23 Sisters.

Basically, part of the schtick was that the MC's dad, in league with Satan, created a chemical that could be introduced into an enclosed environment that would make all the women horny and extremely attracted to MC. I think there was also an injection that he was given that ramped up his pheromones and made them irresistible to women he encountered. It's a completely tongue-in-cheek send up of the incest genre - not serious in the least and a hell of a lot of fun. Some pretty interesting LIs, too (one is particularly horny - so much so that you can grab hold of them and "ram" into her...). You see, his dad "got around" and, because of his genetics background, some of the girls weren't ENTIRELY human. And for something that isn't very cerebral on the surface, some of the stuff it deals with really kind of makes you think. Worth the try if you haven't played it and want to have fun with something completely absurd.

 

[wakawakawaka]

I feel like the random mob/on the run from the cops side story is overdone, also the amnesia plot

 

[gdyah]

harem games where the MC plays favorites, stopped playing a game because of this

 

[traveler3]

I know a lot of people like it, but pregnancy ruins it for me.

 

[Tosser]

I know a lot of people like it, but pregnancy ruins it for me.

I don't mind optional, but forced annoys the hell out of me. What annoys me even more is when it's optional, but the Dev writes the dialogue to try to make you feel guilty about not getting the 18yo virgin pregnant her first time fucking. Only a mentally ill woman (or a 30yo virgin, possibly) wants that.

 

[Zero1337]

When every girl is more than willing to share the MC because they think he's some amazingly good and kind person, when none of his actions or choices support it.

 

[JadedSkywalker]

Killing off love interests. Bad endings with no desirable outcome. Harem games where you will finish inside all the time and there is nothing to show for it. No pregnancy in other words. Games that pretend to have incest, either remove it or its some kind of bs like adopted and grew up together or step. Games where all the girls look 40 and are in college. When it is obviously supposed to be a high school setting with 18 year olds or whatever. But no petites all the women have unrealistic giant tits, the biggest asses you've ever seen. Wide hips. Don't get me wrong, curvy can be sexy but body sizes and shape should vary. Adult visual novels is like one size fits all, hit the repeat button like a xerox machine.

 

[garbago]

I think there's two ways you can go about it. Either 1) it's a fantasy and you always get what you want, or 2) it's supposed to be realistic and there needs to be friction between characters to develop the plot. I like option 2, so when things are too easy for the MC, or things just happen without any real reason, it kinda spoils the experience. Sometimes the LI are too easy...

 

[Blackthorne]

For me it's the idiotic MC. Also the bratty love interest who is just an angry idiot for the sake of it is too common.

 

[Abere Lucifer]

How almost every female character dress like a high-end prostitute. Though that's just porn in general.

 

[qu3tzal]

OMG haven't even manged to read the whole thread yet but soo many of these are true. dream sequences can easily make me give up before finishing a game. might as well just watch a porno if you don't care about the game/story aspect. Same with the every woman suddenly throws themselves at the mc stuff. like have a bit of a story at least.

 

[naughtyones]

Last or few men in existence so every women instantly wants to jump on your cock.

 

[Abere Lucifer]

I thought of another one. Every time a game has a MILF in it they're always a frumpy sea cow. I never understood this one. There's a lot of thin and fit MILFs in real life. Why the sea cows?