discussion Abandoned VN Ren'Py DAZ SUCH A SHARP PAIN [V0.11.7R] [KETZAL]

[Danna8219]

That's true, I hadn't thought of that, well, I'll wait and see then.

Anyway, my main attraction to SSP was incest, so as long that the incest remains, I'm still going to enjoy the game a lot, although I will certainly miss the lolis a bit at first.

Yes, as long as there are teens like Alice, incest and Ketzals art the game will be great!

 

[lolilewder]

His subscribestar disappeared, does anyone know what happened? It doesn't make sense that he was only removed after revamping the game. Did he delete it to create another one and get rid of the shadowban?

The page is still there, same name and all but it's still shadowbanned, if you're not subscribed it will show an error. If you mean that you could see it yesterday and now you can't anymore it's the first day of the month (well kinda depending on your timezone), maybe your payment didn't go through?

 

[Gerdi B]

The incest problem was solved a long time ago: Let the player define the relations.
By default MC and his wife felt lonely in their big house and decided to rent the rooms to young students.
But if the player sets the relation to father/daughter the incest code is activated.

Regarding the rework of Season 1:
I would prefer a new start in Season 2. Instead of a few months he was in a coma for a few years. (Maybe a taboo patch for Alice's and Leana's children can be introduced without changing too much of the normal content; If the age can be set for the girls (in a certain range) the years in coma can be calculated by that).
Reworking SSP with modified characters will take a very long time and we already know the story.
New players don't know that they missed a complete Season and with a good introduction there is no need to know everything from Season 1 to understand and enjoy Season 2.
Of course the name needs to change to something else if a direct connection to Season 1 is not wanted.

 

[BadJM]

No they do not per guidelines over payment processors they no longer allow bestiality, rape or incest.

Though I suppose there are always loopholes for everything. That's how certain games are allowed to continue because it's art.

It still blocks him from the other major sites though.

They always had that in their tos, that is nothing new, they just don't enforce it. There are a shitton of games with incest there and they are all fine. They are only going after the loli stuff.

His subscribestar disappeared, does anyone know what happened? It doesn't make sense that he was only removed after revamping the game. Did he delete it to create another one and get rid of the shadowban?

The page is shadow banned so only supporters are able to see it. If you are a sub and you can't see it anymore, then that is not a good sign. Maybe for some reason your payment didn't go through but the page is still there. Only @ktzman can confirm if the page is still there or not.

 

[dolfe67]

SS subscription is date to date, not first of the month. So unless you subscribed the first of a month, they don't process all payments at that time. SS account is still active, just hidden to the public by SS.

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[sn0wf0x]

The incest problem was solved a long time ago: Let the player define the relations.
By default MC and his wife felt lonely in their big house and decided to rent the rooms to young students.
But if the player sets the relation to father/daughter the incest code is activated.

Regarding the rework of Season 1:
I would prefer a new start in Season 2. Instead of a few months he was in a coma for a few years. (Maybe a taboo patch for Alice's and Leana's children can be introduced without changing too much of the normal content; If the age can be set for the girls (in a certain range) the years in coma can be calculated by that).
Reworking SSP with modified characters will take a very long time and we already know the story.
New players don't know that they missed a complete Season and with a good introduction there is no need to know everything from Season 1 to understand and enjoy Season 2.
Of course the name needs to change to something else if a direct connection to Season 1 is not wanted.

I agree.
Continue with Season 2 and make a longer time skip because of the coma. I guess the script needs some changes for that but it's better to have a game with a time skip than no game.
The lolis were cute but hebe+ is totally fine for me as long as they do not grow watermelon boobs ^^

 

[BadJM]

SS subscription is date to date, not first of the month. So unless you subscribed the first of a month, they don't process all payments at that time. SS account is still active, just hidden to the public by SS.

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From what I've seen from other devs, it's very rare for SS to respond immediately. If you want them to respond to you quickly, you basically have to send them multiple emails every day. That is why the dev of ravenous was able to get his page back to normal in like a week and the dev of family faring still has his shadowbanned.

 

[Witcher]

I hope he is not thinking of making the game fron scratch because I have no desire in waiting for 2 years to get to the same point in the story.

 

[Deleted member 193658]

I hope he does what he wants and how he can, and that I learn to be patient with what he creates, or I won't play his games anymore if they don't suit me/anymore.

 

[LoveAVN4ever]

I hope he does what he wants and how he can, and that I learn to be patient with what he creates, or I won't play his games anymore if they don't suit me/anymore.

I'll play your games no matter what. I do think a long time skip would be best to explain the age up in the girls. To pick it up right off of the ending wouldn't feel right. But that's my own thoughts on it. You can do as you deem appropriate since it's your game

 

[Deleted member 193658]

I'll play your games no matter what. I do think a long time skip would be best to explain the age up in the girls. To pick it up right off of the ending wouldn't feel right. But that's my own thoughts on it. You can do as you deem appropriate since it's your game

BIG SPOILER.
I've thought about it and... Let's just say there's a little bit of that.

 

[alphawhiskey220]

I know some game creators make the characters look questionably young but they bypass the loli issue by allowing you to manually input the ages, having the default be 18. Wonder why they dont just do that.

 

[Deleted member 193658]

Seriously, guys. Stop wondering why, when, how. It's just changing one point, that's all. Blame me, hate me, but I have decided so. It's my game, my characters my choice.

 

[DiegBrand]

The incest problem was solved a long time ago: Let the player define the relations.
By default MC and his wife felt lonely in their big house and decided to rent the rooms to young students.
But if the player sets the relation to father/daughter the incest code is activated.

Is this really possible in this game when there's a plot about who are some of the girls' biological mothers? I don't think this trick works in this case.

Anyway it's probably not even necessary, the SS problem is with lolis, not with incest.

 

[jaredh72]

I know some game creators make the characters look questionably young but they bypass the loli issue by allowing you to manually input the ages, having the default be 18. Wonder why they dont just do that.

That only works up to a point. If the character looks too young or certain aspects aren't something you'd really ever see if they are of age (ex. they're not potty trained yet, they still need a babysitter, the school still has nap time and/or recess, the parents are barely over 18 themselves), they will just go "Yeah, no. There's no way she's 18 or older." The operative word is "questionable". I highly doubt you'd be able to successfully argue Tiffany as she is now is 18 or older.

Seriously, guys. Stop wondering why, when, how. It's just changing one point, that's all. Blame me, hate me, but I have decided so. It's my game, my characters my choice.

Yes, it is. Anyone who blames you is ignorant of the difficulties faced by devs with loli characters (I'm not one, but I can understand it). If anything, I blame the people who have nothing better to do with their time than scouring the internet and being a White Knight toward fictional characters. People who likely have trouble differentiating between reality and fiction because they think "harm" is being done.

That said, I will still follow the game. The lolis were a plus, but they weren't the only reason I played it. There are plenty of games with them that I dropped because the story and/or other content didn't interest me. This was not one of those.

 

[bombmaster]

Seriously, guys. Stop wondering why, when, how. It's just changing one point, that's all. Blame me, hate me, but I have decided so. It's my game, my characters my choice.

Relax, you are the GOAT in the genre if the scene stays dead with Visa/Master/SS Shakedown

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[LoveAVN4ever]

BIG SPOILER.
I've thought about it and... Let's just say there's a little bit of that.

Yay that's great. I'm happy great minds think alike. I will forever hate that you are being forced to do any of this since this you can't do things the way you originally wanted. But I guess that's the shitty part about this world we live in.

 

[LoveAVN4ever]

That only works up to a point. If the character looks too young or certain aspects aren't something you'd really ever see if they are of age (ex. they're not potty trained yet, they still need a babysitter, the school still has nap time and/or recess, the parents are barely over 18 themselves), they will just go "Yeah, no. There's no way she's 18 or older." The operative word is "questionable". I highly doubt you'd be able to successfully argue Tiffany as she is now is 18 or older.


Yes, it is. Anyone who blames you is ignorant of the difficulties faced by devs with loli characters (I'm not one, but I can understand it). If anything, I blame the people who have nothing better to do with their time than scouring the internet and being a White Knight toward fictional characters. People who likely have trouble differentiating between reality and fiction because they think "harm" is being done.

That said, I will still follow the game. The lolis were a plus, but they weren't the only reason I played it. There are plenty of games with them that I dropped because the story and/or other content didn't interest me. This was not one of those.

I agree. The loli/petite element was a super extra positive for me but that wasn't the end all be all. It will suck very much not to have them anymore but I "subscribe" to the dev himself not the game.

 

[NSFWpro]

I don't know if this will get any response but did Ket really up and abandon ssp and ebge (I haven't really followed any devs for 4+ months and when I came back I saw the abandoned tag) Did the pixel police (aka sheeple) get him or is the content getting a rework to conform to "white knight" standards

If a rework is on the horizon I would actually like the story more. Flat chests, watermelons and Milfs have never been my thing (Just my preference, no judgement). Alice and B/S - S/S - F/D inc was always the main draw of SSP for me

 

[NSFWpro]

Is there a huge difference between 11.5R and 11.7R cebs only ported to 11.5 I wasn't sure if I was missing much in the + v0.2 version jump