discussion Why are true Netori games so rare?

[Name001234]

the real answer is:

ntr games are for "

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" so everyone that asks for ntr games is a cuck & there is not too many to be making games for.

I'd agree with you if there weren't hundreds of NTR games on this/Fuck95 site. Fortunately or unfortunately, NTR is a very popular genre. I'm just confused why the exact opposite of one of the most hated genre doesn't have more than a handful of games.

Game of Hearts is a good example of what I'm talking about. It has a major arc about the MC actively cucking the LI's husband.

 

[Loliholic]

And that's valid. I can understand that viewpoint, even if I think that LIs that have zero experience but turn into literal pornstars once you conquer them is stupid and I'm tired of that trope. I understand I go a little bit too extreme in the completely wrong direction as there's definitely a lot of demand for straight up NTR, but IMO most people should be closer to somewhere in the middle.

I just doubt that people who think like you are that much of a majority that it's forcing devs to not even touch the genre.

Well, i prefer inexperienced girls over pros, sluts, whores, ... in general. Its much more enjoyable to experience them learning and improving instead of just going straight to the point. Experience just speeds up too much and honestly, its mostly the same without any surprises. But those who just learn how/what to do are always different and somehow unique.

Thats for sure, i'm lesbian and most devs dont make dickfree games

 

[Name001234]

Well, i prefer inexperienced girls over pros, sluts, whores, ... in general. Its much more enjoyable to experience them learning and improving instead of just going straight to the point. Experience just speeds up too much and honestly, its mostly the same without any surprises. But those who just learn how/what to do are always different and somehow unique.

Thats for sure, i'm lesbian and most devs dont make dickfree games

Ngl I was wandering about that too. There's an insane amount of pussyfree games but actual lesbian games are insanely rare, most of them somehow just turn out to be futa.

 

[majorglory]

Dickfree games just don't make money/patreon subs. It's sad but true. Unfortunately there's less and less devs making games they are passionate about and just making things they think will get the most money.

 

[distortioneye]

the real answer is:

ntr games are for "

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" so everyone that asks for ntr games is a cuck & there is not too many to be making games for.

Nah. Just dont self-insert as the cuck. A lot of NTR stories are just a subset of corruption so if ya don't identify or over-empathize with the cuck in the story, it's just another standard watch a girl get corrupted situation.

Well, i prefer inexperienced girls over pros, sluts, whores, ... in general. Its much more enjoyable to experience them learning and improving instead of just going straight to the point. Experience just speeds up too much and honestly, its mostly the same without any surprises. But those who just learn how/what to do are always different and somehow unique.

Thats for sure, i'm lesbian and most devs dont make dickfree games

It's actually possible to make a netori story about LIs that arent experienced. A lot (I think) are actually stealing a girl from a couple where the the established couple has never had sex actually. Probably because like you, a lot of people prefer the inexperienced girls.

The amount of girl-girl games is definitely a lot less. I could definitely imagine a lesbian netori story where a FMC takes and teaches a LI the pleasures of girl-girl pleasure. I dont know if you're into japanese games, but you might have more luck with the Japanese visual novel scene. I know yuri is definitely a thing people enjoy.

 

[Loliholic]

It's actually possible to make a netori story about LIs that arent experienced. A lot (I think) are actually stealing a girl from a couple where the the established couple has never had sex actually. Probably because like you, a lot of people prefer the inexperienced girls.

The amount of girl-girl games is definitely a lot less. I could definitely imagine a lesbian netori story where a FMC takes and teaches a LI the pleasures of girl-girl pleasure. I dont know if you're into japanese games, but you might have more luck with the Japanese visual novel scene. I know yuri is definitely a thing people enjoy.

Thats kinda stupid, no sex no couple...except you are plato ^^

Yeah, i have lots of yuri, but like most jap games they are censored and honestly, lesbian games without pussys are...dunno, like pizza without cheese...

 

[Name001234]

Nah. Just dont self-insert as the cuck. A lot of NTR stories are just a subset of corruption so if ya don't identify or over-empathize with the cuck in the story, it's just another standard watch a girl get corrupted situation.

I know it's a skill issue, but I can't identify with anyone other than the main POV character. I probably could if the story stopped referring to the MC as 'you', but that's also insanely rare.

It's actually possible to make a netori story about LIs that arent experienced. A lot (I think) are actually stealing a girl from a couple where the the established couple has never had sex actually. Probably because like you, a lot of people prefer the inexperienced girls.

That's actually a pretty common trope. Couple pledges to be each other's firsts but then harem protagonist MC conquers her before she sleeps with her BF. Most people who cry about NTR don't count that as NTR/Netori tho.

Yeah, i have lots of yuri, but like most jap games they are censored and honestly, lesbian games without pussys are...dunno, like pizza without cheese...

+1 games being censored just ruins it for me. I do enjoy the fucked up stuff once in a while(most stuff from

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are pretty cool), but japanese suff is either too tame, or way too extreme(like stuff from

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), and they too, don't really have much Netori. I know vndb has the tag, but it's also applied to heroines in most NTR AVNs so it's not much help.

 

[Golerk1418]

Hero's party must fall is a god tier netori game.
tho tbh i cant find many others

 

[Name001234]

Hero's party must fall is a god tier netori game.
tho tbh i cant find many others

Yeah, it's really good. It's one of the few that actually go all in on the Netori, most similiar games stop humiliating the heroine's ex bf once you capture her.

 

[PervyGod]

It's sad that netori isn't that more common. I quite like netori content in many games that have it.

 

[falafal]

Some games do have random married women that you capture, but that’s not quite what I’m referring to. Unfortunately, most, if not all, of these games tend to shift towards a more love/romance-oriented path by the end.

What I’m looking for is something that has the intensity of a true NTR game, but with the male protagonist assuming the role of the 'bull' and breaking up(and breaking down ) multiple other couples. While this theme can be found in some Corruption-y games, the reverse NTR/cucking aspect of the relationship is almost never explored.

I feel like this is because most people dislike NTR, but idk, I hope there's some that I'm just overlooking because I'm dumb

I feel ya. Closest I've come to have been NTRaholic, NTR Legend, NTR Lesson, Self Defense Dojo, and The Censor. Another one, though you follow the cuck rather than the bull, is A Promise Best Left Unkept. I'd love a lead on any additional games like this.

I'm SLOWLY writing the premise for something like this, where the current idea is you're the bull in an office and you corrupt/blackmail/steal the office female office workers, the men's wives, and all of their daughters. But tbh, it is the least priority in a long list of priorities, and I would have no idea where to start turning it into an actual game.

 

[ChaosLoli]

Huh, never really been my thing, but I can understand why you would like it.

 

[User_160258]

Not gonna lie, NTR has never really been my thing, but id be lying if i said im not a little sad that writers/creators have to tip/toe around the subject and even label it in to their games because of fear of backlash and losing support on their project. Even i acknowledge that if NTR is used correctly as a central precursor to a plot, it can be an amazing set up to a revenge story where the MC can go through a transformation and become the best version of himself. Thats why i liked this manhwa comic called Silent War, the writing was shit for most of it, well more like theres lack of it cuz its a colored porn comic, but the central premise of a nerd for the first half the series getting essentially NTR'd by his antagonist, only to start enacting his own form of revenge on that said antogonist by turning his perspective harem and people on him is pretty interesting and downright badass. Totally worth a read once if anyone is into that sort of thing.

 

[AlBetGam]

Nah. Just dont self-insert as the cuck. A lot of NTR stories are just a subset of corruption so if ya don't identify or over-empathize with the cuck in the story, it's just another standard watch a girl get corrupted situation.

People say this but I can't help but feel it's not actually what NTR lovers play the games for. Most such games explicitly cast the player in the role of the cuck, not a neutral observer or the girl getting corrupted or the guy doing the corrupting. Plenty of them don't even bother giving the bull a face or character.

 

[AlBetGam]

Not gonna lie, NTR has never really been my thing, but id be lying if i said im a little sad that writers/creators have to tip/toe around the subject and even label it in to their games because of fear of backlash and losing support on their project. Even i acknowledge that if NTR is used correctly as a central precursor to a plot, it can be an amazing set up to a revenge story where the MC can go through a transformation and become the best version of himself. Thats why i liked this manhwa comic called Silent War, the writing was shit for most of it, well more like theres lack of it cuz its a colored porn comic, but the central premise of a nerd for the first half the series getting essentially NTR'd by his antagonist, only to start enacting his own form of revenge on that said antogonist by turning his perspective harem and people on him is pretty interesting and downright badass. Totally worth a read once if anyone is into that sort of thing.

Problem there is most people who might like the "get revenge" part aren't necessarily interested in the "getting cucked" part. Some are outright violently opposed to it. Personally while I might enjoy a good revenge story, I wouldn't be willing to sit through a whole half a series of watching the MC get cucked to get to that part.

 

[User_160258]

Problem there is most people who might like the "get revenge" part aren't necessarily interested in the "getting cucked" part. Some are outright violently opposed to it. Personally while I might enjoy a good revenge story, I wouldn't be willing to sit through a whole half a series of watching the MC get cucked to get to that part.

I understand that bit as well, admittedly maybe its different in a game setting where you self-insert yourself into the game and you are the character. And maybe thats why i enjoyed it in a colored comic form because there was already a named character so i didnt associate myself with the experience as much. No one likes the feeling of getting "cheated" on and i get it, but some of the best story plotlines imo are the ones that can elicit a heavy emotional response, the problem i see in particular with NTR from my brief moment, is that it seems most storys tend to be resolved in the least gratifying way possible for the MC, meaning MC most of the time either A. Never gets his girl back. or B. Never gets his get back on Girl or Antogonist that took his girl. or C. Both lol Then also i acknowledge there are people that are just trying to get their rocks off and less interesting in erotica, and i understand that too.

 

[GourmetChef]

I don't know about the rest of you but I'd rather Netori not have the NTR label, because it's not like the other two bastards. Netori should be spelled out fully or go by a different tag. As for the issue of true Netori games being rare, it's a damn shame.

Yeah idk why sites haven't figured this out yet. Netori and Netorare aren't even remotely similar. In fact they are opposites, so why would they be categorized under the same tag? It makes no sense.

 

[Azraelith]

Yeah idk why sites haven't figured this out yet. Netori and Netorare aren't even remotely similar. In fact they are opposites, so why would they be categorized under the same tag? It makes no sense.

People gonna peep.

 

[4oomci]

Some games do have random married women that you capture, but that’s not quite what I’m referring to. Unfortunately, most, if not all, of these games tend to shift towards a more love/romance-oriented path by the end.

What I’m looking for is something that has the intensity of a true NTR game, but with the male protagonist assuming the role of the 'bull' and breaking up(and breaking down ) multiple other couples. While this theme can be found in some Corruption-y games, the reverse NTR/cucking aspect of the relationship is almost never explored.

I feel like this is because most people dislike NTR, but idk, I hope there's some that I'm just overlooking because I'm dumb

This feels so true. I wish there was more focus and proliferation of games where its the protagonist starting the NTR than the receiver.

 

[katemargu]

I've often found myself wondering the same thing, it's like there's a gap in the market for games that genuinely explores the complexities and nuances of netori, rather than just using it as a plot device or a means to an end.