discussion VN Ren'Py DAZ Guilty Pleasure [v0.59] [Quonix]

[MattShizzle]

Kinetic Novels are also text based games. They use numbers and codes just like any other game, and you can save, load, and enter your name. This isn't comparable to something like an E-book, where you just transfer text into digital format and turn the page. It's programmed so that every time you click, the story and characters continue. Everything that goes into a Kinetic Novel is exactly what you need to create a game. You don't always need multiple paths or explicit interactions to automatically call something a game. Let's just agree that it's a story game, and that's fine. Nothing more, nothing less.

Story, not game. Otherwise a movie, TV show, etc would be a game. Games by definition have things you do that affect the story.

 

[xXHeroXx]

Story, not game. Otherwise a movie, TV show, etc would be a game. Games by definition have things you do that affect the story.

That's simply wrong and makes no sense at all. As soon as it's digital, has programs, numbers and codes in it and you can interact with it (which all applies to a Kinetic Novel) it's a game. There are films where you can use the remote control to choose which direction the film should go in. Would that be a game for you just because you can make decisions? I don't think so, because that would be complete nonsense and it would still be a film. Games are about much more than just the decisions you can make. It's about interactions on a digital device. About programmed codes and the enjoyment you get from them. You can only pause a film. With this story game you can save, load, go back or even reprogram. That wouldn't be possible with a film or a book.

 

[MattShizzle]

That's simply wrong and makes no sense at all. As soon as it's digital, has programs, numbers and codes in it and you can interact with it (which all applies to a Kinetic Novel) it's a game. There are films where you can use the remote control to choose which direction the film should go in. Would that be a game for you just because you can make decisions? I don't think so, because that would be complete nonsense and it would still be a film. Games are about much more than just the decisions you can make. It's about interactions on a digital device. About programmed codes and the enjoyment you get from them. You can only pause a film. With this story game you can save, load, go back or even reprogram. That wouldn't be possible with a film or a book.

You ever hear of a bookmark? No decisions it's not a game. I HATE kinetic novels. If I didn't want choices I'd watch porn - looks better and you don't have to read anything. That's why the name - it's like a novel but on a screen.

 

[xXHeroXx]

You ever hear of a bookmark? No decisions it's not a game. I HATE kinetic novels. If I didn't want choices I'd watch porn - looks better and you don't have to read anything. That's why the name - it's like a novel but on a screen.

And that's why it can't be a game? Your only argument is that as soon as there is no decision it is automatically not a game, which is simply wrong. A Kinetic Novel is obviously a game which has no gameplay content and is only about the story. There are enough games based on such things which still belong in the games category, precisely because they are about more than just a story without decisions. I've already given you more than one example of why it is a game. If you want to stick to your opinion I don't care but you should first address my other arguments rather than bringing up the same argument for the third time (which is nonsense and which I should have made clear in my last message).

 

[Suna pana]

Game is good

 

[MattShizzle]

And that's why it can't be a game? Your only argument is that as soon as there is no decision it is automatically not a game, which is simply wrong. A Kinetic Novel is obviously a game which has no gameplay content and is only about the story. There are enough games based on such things which still belong in the games category, precisely because they are about more than just a story without decisions. I've already given you more than one example of why it is a game. If you want to stick to your opinion I don't care but you should first address my other arguments rather than bringing up the same argument for the third time (which is nonsense and which I should have made clear in my last message).

Who cares if it's set up like a game? I mean, Choose Your Own Adventures and such books were games. How can something possibly be a game without input? Making choices is part of what makes a game a game. It's like calling dogshit a form of chocolate to say a KN is a game.

 

[xXHeroXx]

Who cares if it's set up like a game? I mean, Choose Your Own Adventures and such books were games. How can something possibly be a game without input? Making choices is part of what makes a game a game. It's like calling dogshit a form of chocolate to say a KN is a game.

Well, that's your opinion. If you think that automatically makes it not a game for you, then that's just the way it is. I don't care. But don't present it as if it were a fact. KN are games. This game is a game, whether you want to accept it or not. If you're going to come up with a good example like the one with dog shit, I'll give you another one. I can always claim that the earth is flat. It's my opinion and what I believe. Whether it's true in the end and what the facts look like is another matter.

 

[MattShizzle]

Well, that's your opinion. If you think that automatically makes it not a game for you, then that's just the way it is. I don't care. But don't present it as if it were a fact. KN are games. This game is a game, whether you want to accept it or not. If you're going to come up with a good example like the one with dog shit, I'll give you another one. I can always claim that the earth is flat. It's my opinion and what I believe. Whether it's true in the end and what the facts look like is another matter.

No sane person would consider something where all you do is click a game. That's no different from an e-book.

 

[xXHeroXx]

No sane person would consider something where all you do is click a game. That's no different from an e-book.

How many times do I have to explain it to you? A game consists of more than just gameplay mechanics. You can't compare an e-book that simply has sentences written or copied for comprehension with a KN or a story game like that. That's crazy.

 

[User_149890]

Game is fine.

 

[oli84373]

I really like this game

 

[RickS]

new update again (small but frequent)

Guilty Pleasure [v0.46]​

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v0.46
Acts 188, 189, 190, 191.
170+ Images
1 Animation
1500+ Words
2 New Hidden Images

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[RickS]

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[Throcko]

One of my favorites, the updates do always feel a little short though

 

[RickS]

update

Guilty Pleasure [v0.48]​

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v0.48
Acts 196, 197, 198, 199.
170+ Images
2 Animations
1600+ Words
2 New Hidden Images

 

[RickS]

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[Xdream09]

Nice Thank You

 

[ovanman]

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I was wondering what we were lookin at before the clothes came off here. Cause of the way the legs were it looked like a futa was taking MC from behind . Then i saw the arms and got confused on the anatomy till i scrolled down. Wouldn't have instantly dismissed it without looking more into it if it HAD been that but probs wanna change the color of either MC's pants or her dress for those that would xD.

 

[asdf1234asdf1234]

Haven't played this one in a while. Originally thought the start was a bit fast and it made it too fake. Might have to give it another go after so many updates though.

 

[tanthious]

One of the best ones on here. Would love to see more from the dev.