discussion VN Ren'Py DAZ The Sunset Fairies [v0.15] [Ethan Krautz]

[0bora]

Hello i have a question Do i need to start a new game or can i continue where i left ? Thank You

continue from where you left... it was no need for a new start.. all old saves are just fine !

 

[Coloneill]

The MC really makes his way down. During the last update I really wanted him to be eaten by the zombies. But preferable very slow. This game had really many good options to proceed. So shitty, so strange, so sad. Absolutely disturbing. This has to be tagged with graphic violence. And psychic violence against players.

 

[Nicest_Incest]

So disappointing to know MC and his sis never actually fucked. And here I was thinking maybe the twins were his all along, but just in secret. Overall though this update wasn't too bad. I mean Cammy's pussy was left a bloody mess but that's kinda unavoidable with a 10-11yo virgin + big dick. Granted I probably made some choices that made a softer MC that is less sadistic, so see none of what everyone is complaining about.

 

[Commando]

One thing I will say, bring back the MCs drip like god-damn.

 

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[Nicest_Incest]

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Everyone complaining about the twins getting abused (most of which I didn't see due to choices, not really into BDSM stuff) and I'm just sitting here disappointed that the MC and his sis didn't fuck and learning that the twins aren't actually his daughters.

 

[Coloneill]

Everyone complaining about the twins getting abused (most of which I didn't see due to choices, not really into BDSM stuff) and I'm just sitting here disappointed that the MC and his sis didn't fuck and learning that the twins aren't actually his daughters.

Ethan is obviously not interested in feedback's of the community.

 

[Nicest_Incest]

Ethan is obviously not interested in feedback's of the community.

He probably has his own idea and he's sticking to it. I imagine expecting him to change his plans and actually give people what they want would be like asking Seath Blackheart to stop his MC's from molesting the lolis in his AVNs and instead make them all lovey dovey where they're mostly normal and not psychotic/mentally damaged p3dophiles (Dire Desires demo the latest example), so prob never gonna happen. At least neither of them are tossing in unavoidable NTR too for good measure (yet?).

 

[JoeTheMc84]

Ethan is obviously not interested in feedback's of the community.

You should see how he responded to the complaints about the unavoidable prolapse in his other game.

 

[Nicest_Incest]

You should see how he responded to the complaints about the unavoidable prolapse in his other game.

78 subs even on Patreon. He clearly isn't in this for the money and just enjoys making AVNs. The currency he probably prefers is seeing how big he can make the angry mob (not too unlike a forum troll), which is prob the direction I will head, even though based on a true story I find myself making stuff up somewhat often to keep it from being boring even though given the IQ of the average AVN reader most will likely assume every last scene actually happened and I molested my whole family (and got them pregnant too? haven't got to that point or decided yet) just because I didn't tell them those parts are made up.

 

[drcstack]

Ethan is obviously not interested in feedback's of the community.

That's never a good thing. Games die when that happens...as this seems to be case even now. I haven't played it since I caught up to the latest version at the time which was when he found his other two daughters in the apartment. From the feedback so far I don't think I care to play it anymore.

 

[Boogere]

I haven't played this most recent update, but the people complaining about how the MC is a psychotic abuser as if there were no prior indications, either seriously weren't paying attention to the scenes where he starts grooming the grills or they're in too deep into the loli fetish to recognize red flags, it's like if people went into the Malignant game thread and started complaining that the MC is an unfeeling psychotic. Likewise comments early on, when the game was first being posted, mention a previous game having prolapse and being extreme as well, so any sort of light digging around should have been an indicator of what's to come.

Personally, I'm happy it still manages to be fucked up and hardcore enough to land somewhere between The Guardian and the justified moralism of Malignant. Also, that it doesn't have prolapsing birth canals and colons, that just isn't my thing.

 

[Nicest_Incest]

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I'm picturing Camilla getting pregnant and then dying in childbirth. Sad that the MC's daughters (or sis either) will have never got nearly as much playtime.

 

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[Montimer]

So disappointing to know MC and his sis never actually fucked. And here I was thinking maybe the twins were his all along, but just in secret. Overall though this update wasn't too bad. I mean Cammy's pussy was left a bloody mess but that's kinda unavoidable with a 10-11yo virgin + big dick. Granted I probably made some choices that made a softer MC that is less sadistic, so see none of what everyone is complaining about.

I personally lean the opposite way. I like that MC is a dick I guess it comes down to the fact that there's SO MANY loving VNs that seeing something different is a breath of fresh air.
I like the idea of MC training his nieces in more harsh way so they can adapt quicker and get used to it.
Thus allowing him to do more kinkier things with them.

I like that he has a rougher approach. Even more I like that we can see lolis in lingerie or BDSM scenes. They are exquisitely rare.

What I don't like about MC is how he looks. Like... bruv, drop that goddamn visor. Doesn't help that he has a monster dick which in combination with these rather flat lolis is... not very compatible. But then again, twins are cute as hell so it balances itself out.

That's never a good thing. Games die when that happens...as this seems to be case even now. I haven't played it since I caught up to the latest version at the time which was when he found his other two daughters in the apartment. From the feedback so far I don't think I care to play it anymore.

I'll play the devils advocate here. Games die far quicker if developer gives in to demands and starts doing what others want... and not what HE wants. Completely killing passion for the game. This is what then leads to other branching projects while original one gets left in the dirt.
Ideal way to handle it is take some feedback, some ideas which align with your own. Perhaps quality of life changes or changes that make more sense.

 

[Coloneill]

I personally lean the opposite way. I like that MC is a dick I guess it comes down to the fact that there's SO MANY loving VNs that seeing something different is a breath of fresh air.
I like the idea of MC training his nieces in more harsh way so they can adapt quicker and get used to it.
Thus allowing him to do more kinkier things with them.

I like that he has a rougher approach. Even more I like that we can see lolis in lingerie or BDSM scenes. They are exquisitely rare.

What I don't like about MC is how he looks. Like... bruv, drop that goddamn visor. Doesn't help that he has a monster dick which in combination with these rather flat lolis is... not very compatible. But then again, twins are cute as hell so it balances itself out.

I'll play the devils advocate here. Games die far quicker if developer gives in to demands and starts doing what others want... and not what HE wants. Completely killing passion for the game. This is what then leads to other branching projects while original one gets left in the dirt.
Ideal way to handle it is take some feedback, some ideas which align with your own. Perhaps quality of life changes or changes that make more sense.

Maybe you did not play latest update yet. But the main point is, this are the tags:

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Several tags are missing, that can offend people. And the main part, which disturbs most is, that the MC develops from a protective loving Uncle to a monster that makes the zombies looking like angels in comparison. And nothing ever hints on this. If Ethan wants to make such a game, it is his decision. But starting with a all loving incest harem scenario, like many other games, and turn the MC into a crazy psychopath, who destroys his niece in a way, that she is unconscious for half a day and unable to walk after, is nothing what I started to play this game for.
Basically it needs some updates to the tags. As I earlier wrote about graphical and psychological violence. First one against side characters and second one against players.

 

[Montimer]

Maybe you did not play latest update yet. But the main point is, this are the tags:

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Several tags are missing, that can offend people. And the main part, which disturbs most is, that the MC develops from a protective loving Uncle to a monster that makes the zombies looking like angels in comparison. And nothing ever hints on this. If Ethan wants to make such a game, it is his decision. But starting with a all loving incest harem scenario, like many other games, and turn the MC into a crazy psychopath, who destroys his niece in a way, that she is unconscious for half a day and unable to walk after, is nothing what I started to play this game for.
Basically it needs some updates to the tags. As I earlier wrote about graphical and psychological violence. First one against side characters and second one against players.

I did in fact play the update.
I do agree that perhaps it needs couple of new tags here and there but I wouldn't say it's as bad?
Take in mind the niece is a masochist. She doesn't plead to stop, she doesn't cry. She gets off it. She gets in her own way trained. Honestly if you wanna be real, half the girls in games+ shouldn't be able to have sex at the first place without some serious body trauma. But fortunately games work off porn logic.

Technically speaking, you can't really have it as "sexual assault/rape" or "sexual harassment" because none of it happens. Despite everything, its consensual.
However, I do agree that it may be too much for some people who were in for wholesome uncle/niece content and got something else.

Dunno, perhaps ask Ethan to put a slight warning in the game's first page that it may include themes/scenes some may not be comfy with.

 

[Nicest_Incest]

Maybe you did not play latest update yet. But the main point is, this are the tags:

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Several tags are missing, that can offend people. And the main part, which disturbs most is, that the MC develops from a protective loving Uncle to a monster that makes the zombies looking like angels in comparison. And nothing ever hints on this. If Ethan wants to make such a game, it is his decision. But starting with a all loving incest harem scenario, like many other games, and turn the MC into a crazy psychopath, who destroys his niece in a way, that she is unconscious for half a day and unable to walk after, is nothing what I started to play this game for.
Basically it needs some updates to the tags. As I earlier wrote about graphical and psychological violence. First one against side characters and second one against players.

Well at least for future reference you now know what kind of content to expect for this dev, though due to choices I saw none of what everyone is complaining about (I always picked the less dark/rapey/violent/simply mean option). It's kinda like Seath Black's AVNs, as everyone knows at this point he doesn't do lovey dovey MC's, he does varying degrees of mentally damaged psychopaths. For those there isn't really non-dark paths, there's just dark and darker. In this one sure, even the soft options have the MC being an asshole dom whether his LI's like it like that or not. His other AVN Between Salvation and Abyss is the same way. With this one ending soon I'm sure his 3rd one will be basically no different, just different plot and characters.

 

[Montimer]

Well at least for future reference you now know what kind of content to expect for this dev, though due to choices I saw none of what everyone is complaining about (I always picked the less dark/rapey/violent/simply mean option). It's kinda like Seath Black's AVNs, as everyone knows at this point he doesn't do lovey dovey MC's, he does varying degrees of mentally damaged psychopaths. For those there isn't really non-dark paths, there's just dark and darker. In this one sure, even the soft options have the MC being an asshole dom whether his LI's like it like that or not. His other AVN Between Salvation and Abyss is the same way. With this one ending soon I'm sure his 3rd one will be basically no different, just different plot and characters.

I think one of the best ways to experience a game is to play it. Tastes can change over time and devs can change their preferences... or sometimes do projects inspired by others.So who knows. My personal take on it is always: Try it, play it (even if you have to press ctrl to skip parts) then see if you like it.

In all fairness to Seath, he does give you choice of alleviating the dark elements with more loving paths but yeah, even then the plot progresses and most characters aren't good people. Which is fiiiiiiiiiiiine. We have enough lovey-dovey VNs. Not even just loli themed.
It works well for him.

 

[SmogJonkler]

I think one of the best ways to experience a game is to play it. Tastes can change over time and devs can change their preferences... or sometimes do projects inspired by others.So who knows. My personal take on it is always: Try it, play it (even if you have to press ctrl to skip parts) then see if you like it.

In all fairness to Seath, he does give you choice of alleviating the dark elements with more loving paths but yeah, even then the plot progresses and most characters aren't good people. Which is fiiiiiiiiiiiine. We have enough lovey-dovey VNs. Not even just loli themed.
It works well for him.

I honestly didn't even notice that The Guardian had a dark path, I never took a look at anything that would unlock violent content so you can imagine my confusion when I first heard people complain about seath being a sadistic fuck.