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My issues with incest games nowadays:

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There were lot of games whete I found it hotter the flirting back and forth between the characters and when they were doing things without "crossing the line", but each time more risky. After they had sex is like that "tabooness" is gone, I don't know.
 
Its no like all the game are like this. But They usually they have a problem with 1 o 2 of those points.
 
The question is is it a lack of better idea or just demand?
 
I really feel the pornstar body comment. I really wish more games had more chubby women, at least give them love handles.
 
I agree with most items, little personality variation (especially involving brothers and sisters), too many love interests (if you can pull it off, great, but reduces the focus of the story, making it very fragmented, and adding a lot of unnecessary filler). I don't care much about the last item, it's not realistic but it's not supposed to be, I don't like complete bimbo bodies as much but I'm a sucker for slim girls with a bubble butt
 
Honestly, what irks me most about this formula is the lack of diversity in its execution. I don't even have much of a problem with the power fantasy aspect this genre often plays up — porn games that try to introduce conflict, unless built around that conflict with an appropriate reward mechanism to match, tend to get bogged down by constant blue-balling, interruptions and unnecessary lore — but you can do more than "son with a mother, dead/absent father and two or more sisters."

You could have pairing-specific games (father/daughter, mother/son, sister/brother). Some of my favourite games do this, and they're not even particularly good, all things considered. Focus hard on two characters, make the experience entirely about getting them together, and you've got a banger. Do it well enough and the restrictive premise will make it even easier to implement meaningful choices — you're only planning out future story divergences for two characters, after all, instead of five or more. Make a multi-route narrative with intricately distinct outcomes based on a variety of small, cascading variables. Construct plot fulcrums and make them matter. Put in game mechanics and stats if you like; they'll be easier to account for when you've only got two characters to track, especially if one is the main character. The MC probably has no gated decisions, and few stats that matter where choices are concerned — it's the love interest who matters here. Love, lust, anxiety, whatever you want to quantify. Go wild. The small scale allows far greater depth.

You could go in the other direction and have more story-focused games with complex relationships, perhaps where the family is more an ensemble of equally-important players than a harem to a single MC, with twisted incestuous relationships playing out behind closed doors without other members knowing. Father molests sleeping daughter in the dead of night, causing her to dream of getting together with him. Mom finds herself around son more and more due to her husband's repression and lack of love/time for her, leading to slow, tentative romance and increasingly inappropriate touches. Remaining sibling(s) flash each other for "fun", gaining courage each time, while the rest of the family remains blissfully unaware. Have things progress gradually, coming to a head as one member (or all of them) begin to realise they're not the only ones with these perversions. Either they find it hot or become hypocrites, angry at the others for engaging in the same sins as them. They double down on their own incest as a form of twisted revenge, not telling their partner(s). It gets messy. Pregnancies happen. Lies are told. The few remaining lines are crossed. Your choices for each character could turn the ending into a bitter separation or a debaucherous family union.

Hell, if you really must go with the same old formula as in the OP post, make it so the dad's still around. Maybe the game's a netori VN where you cuck dad as a core focus of the story/mechanics. Maybe it's more adventurous than that, and the MC is given the chance to rope dad into the action as one of the LIs, feminised and buck-broken, or burly and a dominant top (lots of bisexual sandwiches in bed and trains running across the living room in this household). Maybe dad's a willing cuck, and is the one to spring the idea on his son and set him up for all the incest to come because he gets off to watching taboos from the shadows; son might not even be into it at first, and the player must prod him in the right way to get him to even think of pursuing his first family member. Maybe it's a spying/voyeurism game where you play the part of the odd one out, slowly discovering the debauchery unfolding under your nose, or that has already unfolded without you being aware of it until now. Maybe it's a mind control game where MC learns how to subtly push people into perversion using hypnosis that's closer to the real deal than usual, emphasising the eroticisim of slow corruption instead of instant personality rewrite. Maybe it's a sleep sex sim where your goal is to impregnate each member of the household without any of them waking up or catching wise to your nighttime escapades during the day, requiring careful cleanup of the scene, allaying suspicions as the plot presents them, and learning how to be a good deceiver; someone could even find out and be into it, giving you a willing accomplice to your shenanigans while everyone else remains oblivious.

If the old formula is to be used, at least put a new spin on it. Innovate a little, or do the same thing as someone else but better. Don't just make another soulless repeat of "son plus mother plus sisters plus dick equals fucking within five days." If I could make art worth a damn, I'd probably try my hand at something. Unfortunately, I've never been skilled in that department, and I have neither the time nor the patience to create a game of my own.
 
So incest games mostly follow these tropes and I'm bored of them:
1) MC is a handsome chap with a horsecock and girls throw themselves at him after some time.
2) The family is fatherless and the MC establishes himself as the man of the house so now every female member must fuck him.
3) There's a doting mother, one nice sister who loves the MC and a mean bitchy sister who's cold/hostile towards him but becomes his bitch later nonetheless.
4) The progress from conversation to teasing to full blown sex is too quick. Often there's no paying any heed to the taboo nature of the relationship.
5) too many love interests. The MC must fuck every female character in sight. Mom's best friend? Fucked. Best friend's mom? Fucked. Sister's friends? Fucked. Sexy nurse/Doctor? Fucked. Female cop? Fucked. Maid? Fucked. The girl at the coffee shop? Fucked. None shall be spared.
6) doll bodies: every girl/woman has a downright supermodel/pornstar body and face. The tits don't droop even when braless! The skin is perfect without any blemishes and what not. No imperfections of any kind.

Is it too much to ask for something new?

I completely agree. It doesn't bother me when MC's penis size is big, but not when it's unrealistically big. Let's say that if he has a big one, it can be a plus when it comes to finishing corrupting the MC's sister/mother. I would also like to see a story of corruption that is a little more realistic and slower, with a background where incest has already been part of the MC's mother/sister. But I also keep in mind that the majority of 18/20 year old people who like this type of content do not care much about providing quality content as far as history is concerned. For example, True Bond stands out a lot in the history section even though it is not incest as such. Light of my life also stands out to a certain extent. But we have successful cases like The Twist where everything happens very quickly, it is not bad but it is not good either. At some point we are going to find a game that generates that feeling we are looking for, I just hope that unlike True Bond that game will be finished.

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Well, I like all of those things
 
The one big problem with incest game is you can't stop them from fucking your family.:ninja:
 
So incest games mostly follow these tropes and I'm bored of them:
1) MC is a handsome chap with a horsecock and girls throw themselves at him after some time.
2) The family is fatherless and the MC establishes himself as the man of the house so now every female member must fuck him.
3) There's a doting mother, one nice sister who loves the MC and a mean bitchy sister who's cold/hostile towards him but becomes his bitch later nonetheless.
4) The progress from conversation to teasing to full blown sex is too quick. Often there's no paying any heed to the taboo nature of the relationship.
5) too many love interests. The MC must fuck every female character in sight. Mom's best friend? Fucked. Best friend's mom? Fucked. Sister's friends? Fucked. Sexy nurse/Doctor? Fucked. Female cop? Fucked. Maid? Fucked. The girl at the coffee shop? Fucked. None shall be spared.
6) doll bodies: every girl/woman has a downright supermodel/pornstar body and face. The tits don't droop even when braless! The skin is perfect without any blemishes and what not. No imperfections of any kind.

Is it too much to ask for something new?
I generally agree with your stance, though to some I some takes too.

1) Horsecock MCs is not incest game exclusive. Porn games these days are just huge-dicked in general for better or worse (usually worse).
2) Yeah, the 'man of the house' trope is lame, and I hate it.
3) Excuse me? I love doting mothers (especially when she has a dommy streak), and nothing feels better than having a woman be a little mean to you. But, yeah, we're very much seeing the same few archetypes in most 'cesty games.
4) Yeah, too few games have build-up. But also, those that do try to have build-up they usually screw the pooch by completely removing any and all sexual tension that is not directly related to the incest element. It annoys me when characters flipflop between being so horny for each other that they are about to break a taboo and then suddenly are really casual and talking about laundry.
5) Yes. Please pick a lane when making games. If you're making an incest game, maybe don't make it a mega-harem too with non-family members.
6) Please, please, please use models with titties that have gravity to them. I want big boobs to bounce and boob breastily!

Yeah, but my main gripe with incest games is when the incest doesn't matter and is just seasoning for an otherwise normal lewd encounter. I want the participants to be aware of that it is incest and therefore socially wrong and illegal.
 
Mostly agree with this post. Especially with how quick most games are to completely disregard the taboo aspect
 
As for women's bodies, I agree, I want some kind of variety like muscular women, scars or something else.
Try Personal trainer Has all kinds of womans bodies

I can agree with most of your issues but I tend to disagree with most of #4, My experience it one of the family members is fast and the grind on the others is too long.
 
I agree with the supermodel characters. I hate plastic women! It's why I try to do shit diffrently.

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What games are yours and how do I find them?
 
1) MC is a handsome chap with a horsecock and girls throw themselves at him after some time.
2) The family is fatherless and the MC establishes himself as the man of the house so now every female member must fuck him.
3) There's a doting mother, one nice sister who loves the MC and a mean bitchy sister who's cold/hostile towards him but becomes his bitch later nonetheless.
4) The progress from conversation to teasing to full blown sex is too quick. Often there's no paying any heed to the taboo nature of the relationship.
5) too many love interests. The MC must fuck every female character in sight. Mom's best friend? Fucked. Best friend's mom? Fucked. Sister's friends? Fucked. Sexy nurse/Doctor? Fucked. Female cop? Fucked. Maid? Fucked. The girl at the coffee shop? Fucked. None shall be spared.
6) doll bodies: every girl/woman has a downright supermodel/pornstar body and face. The tits don't droop even when braless! The skin is perfect without any blemishes and what not. No imperfections of any kind.

Is it too much to ask for something new?
1a) this is pretty much all porn games. for the power fantasy i guess
1b) a bit annoying especially when the MC isn't really portrayed as charming or witty but requires some good scene writing otherwise, so ease of writing i'd guess
2a) its kind of annoying but easiest way for a dev to get the mom without that cheating/cuckolding/NTR tag .. i mean can you imagine the outrage from supporters if you slept with the mom.. then dad who is married to her decided to get in on with her!!!! Also if you're anyone but the son/brother than this point doesn't apply.
2b) player demand really - every female family member is someone's kink and if your gonna be heading down this road either specialize to one LI and get a smaller audience or make it all and get bigger fanbase
3) I think this falls mostly into 2b as well.. get mom/sister/aunt/cousin check, the mean older sister annoys me especially as most don't have a viable background reason for the level of hate. (SL did the bitchy/angry older sister well i thought but it also had 3 sisters and one of the older sisters was super sweet and innocent so corrupting her was fun)
4) i agree with this one, I like it to be a slightly slower burn for me but also think a lot of it is due to how crowdfunding subscriptions work. players want their 'release" and when the content provider is trying to give you updates at a reasonable time length they get hounded by their supporters if there isn't any "content" .. so i get it
5) i 100% agree.. it almost detracts from the story at a certain point. give me more content on a few girls over random bystander sex. I get the occasional use of the extra girls, especially if the content creator does want to slow burn you on the taboo LI's. throw a rando in there while the story builds.. but after? no real need unless story dictates and makes sense.
6) meh, i've heard people complain about the "troll daughter" in light of my life, or other games with ugly LI's. So i'd guess again demand. where is the cut off from non-perfect to ugly.. varies by consumer but one end of the spectrum doesn't has more people willing to fund you. Also i am not a content creator here so maybe i'm wrong but i'd also guess the tools they use to rendor is easier without imperfections.

I'd say the incest games that stood out to me as well done tend to deviate a bit from this though might still have a couple points in there. But that many that tried to do something new or different probably have a higher rate of being abandoned (especially if they aren't already established content creators).
 
6) doll bodies: every girl/woman has a downright supermodel/pornstar body and face. The tits don't droop even when braless! The skin is perfect without any blemishes and what not. No imperfections of any kind.
That is not the case in incest/harem games only. But on the other hand, where would be the reason to play with watching imperfection? Might be your fetish. And that is what I am fine with.
My issue is more about the question, why are there so many games with unnatural huge tits like medicine balls. Why are they even able to walk with that?
 
The question is is it a lack of better idea or just demand?

Personally I think there's loads of better ideas available, or at least different ones. But there's very little pressure for devs to branch out, because most fans of the genre will swallow any competent execution of their preferred tags (and more than a few really terrible executions). And there's more than a little pressure not to try anything new, because many of those fans have a very rigid idea of what they like and will pitch an absolute hissy fit if they think you're diverging from that at all or mixing in anything they don't like. And that pressure can be really intimidating, especially for a first-time dev.
 
I agree with a lot of these points. I think it must show how hard it is to make a really good incest porn game thats unique and interesting
 
These thing are just plot hooks and devices to speed up the story. When done well, they blend into the background and you are barely noticed. When done poorly you see them exposed and they can be jarring. Inexperienced writers will add these items without really understanding them thinking they are the story not deceives to move the story.
 
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