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You should study the Fritzl case of an Austrian guy who held his daughter captive for 24 years and fucked her. From their relationship seven children were born. The story is more of a nightmare than our usual happy harem trope and the guy got a life sentence, but still it is an interesting case.

Yeah that shit was fucking horrible. First he molested his daughter Elisabeth for the first 18 years of her life, then she thought she was finally getting away from him now that she was 18 and moving out of the house...only for this sick fuck to kidnap his own daughter and imprison her in the basement underneath his house for 24 years as a sex slave and get several children upon her while making her write fake letters to her mom about how she was living a real life somewhere, and then adopting these kids that just showed up at orphanages or whatever and raising them with his (oblivious) wife. Completely the opposite of the happy harem/incest trope! This poor woman spent the first 42 years of her life being non-consensually molested, raped, imprisoned and impregnated by the person who was supposed to protect her. I'm surprised she hasn't committed suicide (at least not that I've heard) since basically her whole life was ruined. 😭

Fritzl was also a convicted rapist during his marriage (his criminal record was expunged 15 years after his release in accordance with Austrian law, which enabled him to adopt his incest rape babies) and a suspect in at least three murders (two 17 year old girls and a 42 year old hooker). Just a very sick fuck overall. :mad:
 
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you know what, I think that if there were visual novels in those days, this dude could have studied them well, thought through all the cons and pros and so, foolishly not ruining his life and the life of his daughter - perhaps he would have acted carefully slowly and smoothly - and maybe everything would have worked out much better for them. but - he turned out to be both a fool and a rude person and he did not have the chance to get food for thought and think - he was in a hurry somewhere (we know where - time does not wait).
and with girls, sometimes you need to go as slowly as possible, for the time being completely throwing all sorts of nonsense out of your head. if men sometimes get offended when they are perceived as stupid, brainless studs, then what can we say about women?
this fool should have become his daughter's friend first.

The only thing that upsets me about this matter is the implementation of the idea. but the idea itself was not so bad. Don't get me wrong, when two people love each other, then the rest is not so important, isn't it?
although if you look with prejudice and think about the bad in advance, then everyone in the world, literally everyone, will begin to seem like scoundrels - because when it is unclear who is doing what, and you are used to assuming the worst, then you understand me, what begins to seem to you.
This is how projection works in psychology.
This is how the philosophical concept of the world works as a mirror for a person - if you are a scoundrel at heart, then around you you see scoundrels because in the actions of other people you see the same thing that you do yourself and that makes you feel uncomfortable.
popular saying - a fisherman sees a fisherman from afar.

In fact, I am very sorry that this girl had such a difficult lot - she lost both her mother and father, becoming an orphan while her father was alive, who turned into the worst kind of enemy who constantly torments her and gives her no peace.
I hope that she found some kind of peace in her children, because children do not bear sin. Apparently, this is precisely why she did not commit suicide, because it would have been completely irresponsible on her part to leave her children alone. She’s great, you can be proud of her, she’s a wonderful mother!
By the way, what Macy did was very selfish.
and the fact that she tried to commit suicide was also very un-adult. She behaved like an aged little girl, which does not excuse her.

By the way, since Macy is involved, I would really like to find out one day why incest happened in her family, what provoked it - maybe family traditions? because nothing comes from nothing. maybe Ketzal will tell this backstory about Macy one day?

but wait, a separate VN about Macy - is there a description of her prehistory where her formation as the Macy we know is revealed?
 
@ramvivat

Macy's dad had an incest fetish and managed to bring his mom along for the ride (Macy and her sister are the daughters/granddaughters of their mother and the daughters/sisters of their dad).
 
Don't get me wrong, when two people love each other, then the rest is not so important, isn't it?

The problem with incest is, that, if for some reason the relationship doesn't work out, you cannot just wash your hands and walk away.

The other problem is that there is always some kind of power dynamic going on, especially when it comes to father-daughter. It can never be a fair and balanced relationship, which is why it should be avoided in real life.

Both of these problems are very clear in the game as well. Perhaps, the Alice solo path kind of tries to avoid the power dynamic but still. In the other paths, it's very clearly present. Which is fine in a game but in real life it's all very dangerous.
 
You should study the Fritzl case of an Austrian guy who held his daughter captive for 24 years and fucked her. From their relationship seven children were born. The story is more of a nightmare than our usual happy harem trope and the guy got a life sentence, but still it is an interesting case.
That's some fked up story. These things are good only in VNs. It gets ugly in IRL. Think of it as a movie, you like action then you go watch action movie. After finishing comes out and go back home, bak to normal life. You don't replicate what you watch in movies. Same for these porn games... You like incest? lolis? Fine.... Fap and forget, Back to IRL. Never do them in IRL.
 
The problem with incest is, that, if for some reason the relationship doesn't work out, you cannot just wash your hands and walk away.

The other problem is that there is always some kind of power dynamic going on, especially when it comes to father-daughter. It can never be a fair and balanced relationship, which is why it should be avoided in real life.

Both of these problems are very clear in the game as well. Perhaps, the Alice solo path kind of tries to avoid the power dynamic but still. In the other paths, it's very clearly present. Which is fine in a game but in real life it's all very dangerous.
Damn it for the tenth time I rewrite the message - I am writing a lot. And each time I understand that I am climbing into the jungle, which can not be interested in reading. =) - I remove. And I'm trying to write shorter. But again I delve into the jungle. =) I can’t do anything.

Therefore, I just agree with you - rightly you said, the relationship in incest is not what you can throw into a garbage bucket as a finished condom. There is no road back, as soon as you stepped on this road.
you need think - many and not always "before" sometimes "instead" - because think "after" - haha, it simply worthless.
 
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Why is MC and Nicole's father written as ???, isn't that just
Martin
?
Based on two scenes in the game, many are speculating that Dwayne is the real father of the MC. It's possible that Martin is the father of Nicole but this was never explicitly mentioned in the game. So for now we don't really now.
 
Based on two scenes in the game, many are speculating that Dwayne is the real father of the MC.
and what Ketzal said about it? does he disagree with it? or admit it?

one thing I can say for sure is that it is obvious that Dwayne and Macy have some kind of connection with each other. maybe they had something in common in the past. the scene in the evening when Dwayne brought Cassie home to Macy. they were either very, very good acquaintances, friends, or perhaps former lovers or something like that.
Think for yourself, a problem has befallen you, to whom will you take your child so that he can live there for a while? I think this is to some extent a clue to the type of relationship between Dwayne and Macy.

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A sudden version came to mind - Dwayne and Macy were lovers behind Leana's back. this love affair was revealed through the fault of one of them and they broke off the relationship in a not very good way. this explains the reason why Dwayne could beat MC (as well as why he had a “black eye” on MC from the very first scene) and the reason why at the hospital Macy demanded that Leana forbid Cassie from dating MC.
 
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I haven't played this since an early version, is now a good time to download? If there's going to be an update soon I'll wait a little bit
 
I think the last SS post was a couple of days ago. It has been only a month since the last game update so we will still have to wait a little more until we get more content.
 
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