discussion On Hold Ren'Py DAZ Dominion Redux [v1.04 BugFix] [Fallen Angel Productions and Mylph Money]

[Fallen Angel Productions]

Okay. I just went through everything in the game before the fam leaves for the Aunt's house. I took screenshots, wrote notes, and just DMed it all to @Misarmor . I guess nevermind about that script for now, just in case more needs to be worked on. Whatever content was showing but wasn't supposed to be is likely listed below here and included in the DMs I sent. So if it's gone, then thanks, and that part of the report can just be ignored.


Just so that everyone knows what I reported, I'll list them briefly here:

1) The conversation at the dinner table where it's implied that the mom has sucked Deon's cock.

2) The scene in the lounge where Deon is introduced. When she is cuddled up to him and squeezing his cock through his pants. They both look straight into the camera with their "NTR-faces", let the MC know that they're officially a couple now, and that they fucked, etc.

3) The scene in the lounge where the mom and Deon are cuddled up watching porn together, and the dialogue lets the player know that Deon is grooming her and that she likes it.

4) The gang introduction scene with the Mom, again cuddled up on Deon, and the NTR vibes are strong throughout the tone and dialogue.

5) The scene in the lounge with the mom and the gang that's even worse because she's cuddled up with Deon while collared and naked in front of the gang and seems to be loving it.

And then just a stray line of dialogue here and there.

I'm not sure how much of that was content that was showing just due to errors in the code but wasn't supposed to be. But imo those are the most problematic parts in the first section of the game for a "non-NTR route". Any other players who disagree with me are more than welcomed to sound off of course. But between the DMs that I just sent, and this post, I don't know how to be any more clear and specific than that.

This could very well end up being a "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me" situation, on me. But I took the time to do this because I really do like the rest of this game outside of those listed moments. And also for the other players that have expressed the same on the matter. I'm going to probably check out the next build to see what was changed (if anything, I'm still very doubtful), but this is my last ditch attempt on the matter.

the start of the game is now being rewritten to let people know they have always been a couple I can't go into details about the full story with the family because major spoilers to clear things up Deon is their father as for the other's you shouldn't get them in the harem path they'll be fixed in the next update and to let you know our ntr writer is in a different timezone so he won't be able to respond for a while just thought I'd let you know so you don't think he's ignoring you

 

[Fallen Angel Productions]

missed the last part of what you said sorry regarding that part the ntr writer is working very hard and helping us sort out these issues he's a massive help we really will try to fix these issues without destroying the story we have written out

 

[Misarmor]

i just read some of what RabbidSloth sent me, and I think there was some misunderstanding on my side.
I thought the matter was general writing issues, like inconsistencies or general stylistic problems, the NTR issue has already been acknowledge if I'm not mistaken.
To be clear, in my mind my job as an NTR writer is to modify the current/add NTR scenes to the game, not *remove* NTR content.
Some of what he sent me is essential to the NTR path (such as introducing Deon as a proper NTR adversary) and hence cannot be removed. I have thought about suggesting the implementation of a proper NTR switch to the devs, I think it's going to be an almost mandatory addition of we want to properly sepparate the two routes.
So yeah, I'll share RabbidSloths's list to the devs, I'll ask them about the NTR switch, and I'll take the occasion to ask them if they want me to rewrite the currenr scenes in both NTR and Harem path I guess.

 

[RabidSloth2]

the start of the game is now being rewritten to let people know they have always been a couple

Sounds like you're going to make it even worse.

to clear things up Deon is their father

You've said this before but it makes no sense. He is clearly not their biological father (for very obvious reasons). Do you mean their step-father? In which case that's even worse than being her boyfriend. I was told that you are a native English-speaker, so I'm even more confused where the mixup is here.

he won't be able to respond for a while just thought I'd let you know so you don't think he's ignoring you

Appreciate it.

i just read some of what RabbidSloth sent me, and I think there was some misunderstanding on my side.

To be clear, in my mind my job as an NTR writer is to modify the current/add NTR scenes to the game, not *remove* NTR content.

There was definitely a miscommunication somewhere. The whole subject was about content that people felt was too NTR for a non-NTR path.

Anyway. I'm done, utterly and completely. Unwatching the thread now.

 

[Alucard360]

Dominion [v1.05] mod ??

 

[Fallen Angel Productions]

Sounds like you're going to make it even worse.

You've said this before but it makes no sense. He is clearly not their biological father (for very obvious reasons). Do you mean their step-father? In which case that's even worse than being her boyfriend. I was told that you are a native English-speaker, so I'm even more confused where the mixup is here.

Appreciate it.



There was definitely a miscommunication somewhere. The whole subject was about content that people felt was too NTR for a non-NTR path.

Anyway. I'm done, utterly and completely. Unwatching the thread now.

I can't do into details I don't want to spoil the whole game what part of it doesn't make sense that he's the father

 

[User_63352]

Sounds like you're going to make it even worse.

You've said this before but it makes no sense. He is clearly not their biological father (for very obvious reasons). Do you mean their step-father? In which case that's even worse than being her boyfriend. I was told that you are a native English-speaker, so I'm even more confused where the mixup is here.

Appreciate it.



There was definitely a miscommunication somewhere. The whole subject was about content that people felt was too NTR for a non-NTR path.

Anyway. I'm done, utterly and completely. Unwatching the thread now.

Yeah i was hoping to give it a chance . i will check out the next update to see whats changed, but if it still looks and sound's like ntr on the non ntr path whats the point anymore.

 

[Guitarman]

Imho this is at least a big part of the issue: Different people are going to look at things differently (stating the obvious, I know lol). But in my mind, to a harem fan, having even that much NTR suggestiveness is enough to ruin the entire experience for them. This may be a dumb analogy, but it's off the cuff and I'm still waking up lol, but hopefully you'll get my point anyway: Imagine there's a delicious-looking pie and you'd love to eat it. But then you notice that right on the surface of it there's a small glop of feces. Some people might say "Well just cut around it and eat the rest." But others are going to be so repulsed by it that the entire pie is now completely ruined for them. NTR is like feces for the people who hate it.


Not that I'm trying to beat a dead horse by giving my own feedback on the issue, I'm just a bit late to the party. But I do want to say that I agree and that the lounge scenes with Deon and the gang (specifically how the mom behaves with them, even when not on the NTR-route) that you're mentioning are definitely the biggest source of and contributes the most towards the issue.




Yes, this. I know that "futa doesn't count" isn't the case with some people, which is fair of course. But it is with me, so my own feedback is that her being there, at least at first, is fine. Since the non-NTR route is supposed to be a harem route though, I do think it would be important for either the OS to eventually leave her for the MC, or, optionally have them both become the MC's girlfriends. That is if you felt like making optional futa content for the people who'd be down for it. But currently, as I said before, I'm mostly fine with her as is. My only thing is that I really don't like the "futas" that are hermaphroditic. I'd much rather her just be a tgirl/dickgirl. But that's just a personal preference thing.

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If elaboration needs to be... Here goes :

The obvious question is : What is NTR ? A sufficient definition would be that family members/lovers excluding the MC have sex with persons not part of the family or the relationship, with the intent to finally leave. And optional cuckoldry. An obvious example of cuckoldry would be Serge3DX’s 'Milf Breeder‘, where the husband even has to provide towels while his wife has sex with her Futa lover.

Obviously this isn't true for anything in Dominion, not even on the NTR path. Nowhere does the behavior of mother and sisters imply that they want to cuck and demean or leave the MC. On the contrary, some of the scenes rather imply abuse,if not rape.

Regarding " Futa's don't count" of course they don't in this case. The MC finds nothing wrong with it and later on even joins in. Case closed.
To me the entire discussion is not on point.
Although i generally love his games, i must say that Dominion is the sloppiest product to date. There are many more other issues than a relatively small design failure regarding the lounge scenes with Mom and Deon.

 

[Fallen Angel Productions]

There won't be an update till december 1st we are going back through the script and rewriting some of it

 

[CoffeeDevil]

Awful game, since the last update @Chasmalim has made only legitamently racist BBC NTR content on he discord. This game is dead. Romance and The MC are being throrwn to the side for NTR, even a new writer just for it. Insane to triple down on what ruined the game in the first place

 

[Mini]

Awful game, since the last update @Chasmalim has made only legitamently racist BBC NTR content on he discord. This game is dead

So is the game dead or is he posting new content for the game on Discord? You're going to have to make up your mind if your goal is to sound at least a little smart.

 

[Mr. Tearson]

Awful game, since the last update @Chasmalim has made only legitamently racist BBC NTR content on he discord. This game is dead. Romance and The MC are being throrwn to the side for NTR, even a new writer just for it. Insane to triple down on what ruined the game in the first place

So is the game dead or is he posting new content for the game on Discord? You're going to have to make up your mind if your goal is to sound at least a little smart.

The game is NOT dead. I think CoffeeDevil is saying it's dead for him/her. No idea. But the game is set to be released sometimes in December from what I'm seeing.

 

[Mini]

Awful game, since the last update @Chasmalim has made only legitamently racist BBC NTR content on he discord. This game is dead. Romance and The MC are being throrwn to the side for NTR, even a new writer just for it. Insane to triple down on what ruined the game in the first place

You're doing the same crap that made Nun Ya and FA leave F95. NTR does NOT ruin a game, you're just in the middle of a validation bias because you're seing people complaining about NTR all over every forum, because people who dislike NTR tend to be big crybabies. Whether you like it or not, there IS a huge audience for NTR content, and I believe Nun Ya and Fallen Angel are making the right decision.
One thing I would agree on, is that the devs weren't clear about how much NTR would be avoidable. But if they're "tripling down" on NTR as you're saying... Problem solved, isn't it?

 

[Mr. Tearson]

Alrighty, folks. This game is an NTR game rather or not you like it. Yes, they are trying to fix all the bugs and playthroughs to help the non-NTR enjoy its contents, too. Giving them feedback and letting them know is key. So, remain respectful and keep things civil. ​

 

[CoffeeDevil]

Whether you like it or not, there IS a huge audience for NTR content, and I believe Nun Ya and Fallen Angel are making the right decision.

And thats why the game has grown so much since it was introudeced right? Wait no, the games completely stagnated for a year since then. The game was actually growing before that, and now its subscribstar is in limbo with 30 people, and will remain to be. Making only BBC content now is only reinforcing that fate. The only hope they have is to actually make the next game palatable for most people unlike what happened to this game

 

[User_63352]

Is it true that the mc is now a futa?

 

[Mr. Tearson]

Is it true that the mc is now a futa?

Yes. The game is going to be a Futa Protag now. The team had to think long and hard about what kind of audience they wanted to pursue. Thus, the result.

 

[User_63352]

Yes. The game is going to be a Futa Protag now. The team had to think long and hard about what kind of audience they wanted to pursue. Thus, the result.

Ah well, i can ignore this game now. If the mc was the same as before and the ntr was going to be completely turned off with a switch in the setting's i would be interested, but futa mc is not my thing. Good luck to the devs anyway.

 

[CoffeeDevil]

XD told you the game was dead. Remake 33 incoming

 

[Demonstan]

i might consider supporting money is very tight for me so i cant do it right now i love Dominion that game is so good both paths idc if a game has ntr in it as long as its good when i see the ntr tag im like cool the game has more sex scenes and they shouldnt get boring buy about my last comment about the game needs animations i still stand by that and i know it would be asking a lot for you to go back to square one and animate every sex scene you made but if you do man this game will be a million times better