discussion You wake up as a king. What is the first law you set? (Another WDYD)

[AlBetGam]

The punishment is a deterrent to committing the crime. Putting someone in prison also prevents them from committing crimes against the public while they're in prison. The issue is that while the person themselves hasn't done something violent, it is especially abhorrent to misuse the power of the state, in this case leveraging it to effectively kidnap someone and seriously harm their life, even if they aren't convicted. It's the same reason I think swatting or personating a public official to commit a violent felony should be capital crimes, it's misuse of the state to commit violence.

The problem is that "punish it harder" doesn't fix the issue here. You can have the most horrific punishment in the world attached, but if your law enforcement can't detect and discard a false accusation it won't matter. On the other hand if false accusations are useless to begin with because no one falls for them, you have effective deterrence no matter what punishment you attach.

 

[Narch]

Make so every public servant must undergo testing and reviews of wich the results are released to public for scrutiny. All elected officials must first pass aptitude tests before they can run election. Capital punishment for lobying. Price ceiling on medical products and companies that commit crimes are liable to having their IP's made public

 

[HTYYHRK]

The problem is that "punish it harder" doesn't fix the issue here. You can have the most horrific punishment in the world attached, but if your law enforcement can't detect and discard a false accusation it won't matter. On the other hand if false accusations are useless to begin with because no one falls for them, you have effective deterrence no matter what punishment you attach.

Those goals aren't mutually exclusive. However, you'll never have a perfect system. While people who commit crimes generally don't think they'll get caught, criminals do know the punishment for their crimes and intentionally avoid behavior that will get them harsher sentences, so deterrence does have an impact. The purpose of punishment isn't just deterrence, it also punishes the person for doing the crime, keeps them from being able to do it again while they're incarcerated and gives some measure of justice to the victim. It's not very fair to someone that gets booked into jail on accusation of a crime for their false accuser to not even get jail time. We're also just talking about some sort of after the fact rape allegation, if someone makes a false report of an ongoing violent crime to police, the police don't have the luxury of being able to verify it before responding on high alert.
In a real case sentencing would be done by a judge who has discretion, so the sentencing guideline can say that the sentence should be in part based on the actual harm suffered by the victim. That is if someone made one false rape report to police but then immediately recanted before the victim was even arrested, their sentence would be relatively light compared to someone that never recanted.

 

[CharlieR]

law?, I guess making law about abolishing all current laws.

in essence, starting a secession and dissolution of the kingdom.

and as necessary:
converse/advice on replacements for the old laws with natural law and tort law system
converse/advice on setting up arbitration courts
converse/advice on setting up private security / rights management
converse/advice/arbitrate on public/kingdom's/noble's property by giving to rightful parties(peasant/current owners) or made unowned. (castle is Mine. mine)
converse/advice on dissolution of public services and replacements with private alternatives.

lastly start potato farming in the courtyard, maybe convert part the castle to museum and sell tickets.

 

[AlBetGam]

Those goals aren't mutually exclusive. However, you'll never have a perfect system. While people who commit crimes generally don't think they'll get caught, criminals do know the punishment for their crimes and intentionally avoid behavior that will get them harsher sentences, so deterrence does have an impact.

Only if they think they're likely to get caught, and a person's assessment of their chances of getting caught are directly tied to how reliably people committing that crime get away with it. You can declare any punishment you like, if people who commit the crime consistently get away with it you're not accomplishing anything.

What do you think has a bigger impact on, say, tax fraud? Disemboweling a guy for lying on his tax forms while 99 others slip away? Or a solid record of catching and fining almost everyone who tries to lie on said forms?

The purpose of punishment isn't just deterrence, it also punishes the person for doing the crime, keeps them from being able to do it again while they're incarcerated and gives some measure of justice to the victim. It's not very fair to someone that gets booked into jail on accusation of a crime for their false accuser to not even get jail time. We're also just talking about some sort of after the fact rape allegation, if someone makes a false report of an ongoing violent crime to police, the police don't have the luxury of being able to verify it before responding on high alert.

No, but they should presumably be able to piece together what happened after the high alert is over.

In a real case sentencing would be done by a judge who has discretion, so the sentencing guideline can say that the sentence should be in part based on the actual harm suffered by the victim. That is if someone made one false rape report to police but then immediately recanted before the victim was even arrested, their sentence would be relatively light compared to someone that never recanted.

In that case we're moving well away from the suggested penalty of "whatever the accused would have faced". A better option would be reasonable standardized sentencing with additional if necessary for actual harm done.

 

[Msm]

Defloration would be the king's responsibility and he would that that responsibility very seriously

 

[pikxmon12]

I would change education to a more centralized model focused on a specific area from an early age, based on aptitude tests in various fields. This would avoid years of learning things that you ultimately never use. Then I would establish a law obligating this monarchy to support me without me having to do absolutely anything, leaving all the responsibility to someone willing to let me do whatever I want without any accountability.

 

[Penitus]

Ban any and all names starting with a certain letter such as the letter b. Any with those names must complete in a series of challenges to find out what their new names will be. The score will not change what names they will get, but they won’t be told that.

 

[Deleted member 233302]

It's a petty thing but I'd probably ban tattoos completely. A small tattoo somewhere just looks trashy and the bigger the amount of them gets, the more the person destroys their looks.

 

[londonbridge90]

If I were the king I would give all LC members the member+ vote for me.

 

[¢rono]

Have someone different for everyday of the week to take care of my morning wood

 

[Deleted member 234231]

Id setup a council to handle most of tasks and leave for me only interesting ones like wars