discussion Why do we like the kinks we like? Help uncover possible connections by taking an anonymous survey

[AVG]

filled it in... got more kinks than I expected

 

[Kpopn00dlover]

i don't need a survey. if you've taken the time to, converse and deal with yourself, you know.

what's changed over time, is as i'm honest with myself, the causes do become clear. in my case, my strongest kinks, it is indeed response to childhood trauma loosely but mostly around puberty time.

on a more interesting note, it seems some of my lighter interest kinks may simply be part of anger management, just developed in this way due to the strong influence of the other.

 

[doctorpinch]

Group,

I finally got my blog up and the first two posts posted. My next post I intend to be about the survey results and initial thoughts on the relationships between the various kinks. I'm also working on an updated survey.

Here is the link to the blog. Please feel free to spread the word:

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Also, please feel free to let me know what you think. Post either here or there (or both) and I will try to respond.

Here's hoping!

Doc

 

[doctorpinch]

I've made some changes to the "About me and this site" post on the blog. It's now a little more reflective of what I'm hoping to uncover with the survey as between whether we like em slim or full-bodied. My earlier post went off in a bad direction, I think. But hopefully remedied now.

 

[Fannnnywooper]

I feel like when im thinking about what to answer for each kink, my answer would vary depending on my mood

 

[herelooking027]

Fellow deviants (and non-deviants who wandered in by chance....):

Why do we like what we like? What motivates our sexual preferences? Is it childhood experiences? Is it random?

Or is there an evolutionary basis for our kinks? How does homosexuality persist over evolutionary time? It's present in most of our great ape relatives and it's being discovered in more and more mammalian species. What selection pressures lead to it being preserved? And what about NTR? Why do so many of us hate it? Loli? or MILF? More evolutionary selection pressures at play?

I am trying to test my theory about what evolutionary selection pressures lead to various kinks. My hypothesis suggests that some kinks are going to be positively correlated with some others and negatively correlated with different kinks. And another group of kinks will similarly be positively and negatively correlated with other kinks and factors.

Help out a fellow pervert (that's perVECT!) and fill out the linked anonymous survey. The survey should take 10 to 15 minutes and I will be posting more of my theory for criticism and debate once I get enough survey responses.

This thread and survey has been approved and checked out by the moderators.

Hope to see the number of responses climb quickly (though please only take the survey one time. Multiple entries will (obviously) skew the results).

Please post here with any questions or comments. I think this is a topic that has the potential to generate a lot of discussion and debate, all of it friendly and collaborative, I'm sure.

Here is the link:

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Thanks

Doctorpinch


Mod Note: This survey has been vetted and approved by LC Staff. - Silrog22

The survey is very poorly designed for getting useful results, because the question contents are so broad or the responses imply things. Also there obviously will be associations between some kinks, because they have natural overlap or feedback loops. This is a very Psych 101 level survey.

 

[doctorpinch]

I feel like when im thinking about what to answer for each kink, my answer would vary depending on my mood

I'm sure that's true for all of us. But I don't think that's going to invalidate the results. Our answers are likely to vary (for example) between love and like or don't like and meh (i.e., between 5 and 4 or between 2 and 3) but they're unlikely to vary between 1 and 5. But I don't see much of a way to get around that problem. Happy to hear any thoughts as to how to improve the questions on that front.

The survey is very poorly designed for getting useful results, because the question contents are so broad or the responses imply things. Also there obviously will be associations between some kinks, because they have natural overlap or feedback loops. This is a very Psych 101 level survey.

Given that I was an English and Econ major, no surprise there. Psych 101 is a step up for me. However, I'd be happy to take any constructive feedback on how to change the questions to be more precise.

As far as natural overlap, I agree that some categories WILL naturally be highly positively correlated, e.g., loli and small tits or pregnancy and creampie. But I suspect there will be some unexpected correlations like loli and NTR. (In this case, more like a higher tolerance for NTR.) So to the extent the survey throws up some unexpected correlations, that will be interesting.

I'd also be happy to hear any feedback of my blog. I have a couple of posts up, but I'm still working on my first post that's directly related to the survey. I hope to have that one up in a couple of weeks. My first substantive post can be found here:

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.

 

[herelooking027]

I'm sure that's true for all of us. But I don't think that's going to invalidate the results. Our answers are likely to vary (for example) between love and like or don't like and meh (i.e., between 5 and 4 or between 2 and 3) but they're unlikely to vary between 1 and 5. But I don't see much of a way to get around that problem. Happy to hear any thoughts as to how to improve the questions on that front.

Given that I was an English and Econ major, no surprise there. Psych 101 is a step up for me. However, I'd be happy to take any constructive feedback on how to change the questions to be more precise.

As far as natural overlap, I agree that some categories WILL naturally be highly positively correlated, e.g., loli and small tits or pregnancy and creampie. But I suspect there will be some unexpected correlations like loli and NTR. (In this case, more like a higher tolerance for NTR.) So to the extent the survey throws up some unexpected correlations, that will be interesting.

I'd also be happy to hear any feedback of my blog. I have a couple of posts up, but I'm still working on my first post that's directly related to the survey. I hope to have that one up in a couple of weeks. My first substantive post can be found here:

You must be registered to see links

.

So, I'll tackle this from the higher levels first, then down to the nitty-gritty.

It is already known that there are strong positive correlations between sexual behaviors that are considered "extreme" or "deviant" by an individual or by society. For example, a person who regularly indulges in fantasizing about sexual violence is much more likely to also fantasize about other anti-social sexual behaviors. Similarly, a person who has a paraphiliac attraction of one sort (let's say a foot fetish) is also much more likely to have other paraphilic attractions. The more extreme any paraphilic attraction an individual admits to, the more likely they are to have other attractions that are highly deviant from the norm.

For any survey to provide valid conclusions about matters of sexuality, there are three key elements that it must attempt to satisfy. The more elements satisfied and the more robustly they are satisfied, the more valid the results are.

Key 1: Repetition. A survey that only asks about feelings a few times almost never has validity in the social sciences. The social sciences are currently plagued by a crisis in which studies aren't longitudinal (generally meaning that the same individual is surveyed repeatedly over a long period of time) or replicated (meaning that different researchers investigate the same study with different populations over time), which means that most of the information that they make claims about is... junk. For a simple reference of mind, think about flipping a coin and determining the probability of it begin heads or tails *based only on your observed results*. 20 coin flips could produce 17 Heads results and 3 Tails results, but to believe the probability to be 17:3 instead of 50:50 would be a massive mistake.

Key 2: Construction. A survey that asks about subjective responses inherently faces massive problems. People's definitions of concepts differ as much, or more than, their capability and willingness to provide true and precise responses. For example, several studies used to rely on frequently asking people questions like "Do you have difficulty maintaining an erection most of the time when you are on your medication?" Then a person with basic common sense decided to start surveying people about a different question: "What percentage do you have in mind when you respond with Most Of The Time as your answer to a survey question?" and found that answers varied from "More than three times a week, and I want to have an erection 8 times a week" (meaning that 3 times they couldn't, and 5 times they could, but they replied that they have difficulty "Most of the time") to "All but one or two times per week." Obviously, if people's definitions differ, then it is incorrect to categorize their responses into the same cluster.

Key 3: Observation. People answer differently at different times, they have different definitions of things in mind, they might be unable or unwilling to answer questions precisely, and their memories suck (even if they think their memory is great). Instead of replying on people to accurately understand the intent of your questions and provide precise and accurate responses, surveys should be done on measurable observations. For example, when studying male sexual response, instead of simply asking people how they feel, researchers who want valid results attach devices to the bodies of participants and measure blood flow to parts of the body, hormone levels, etc.

The reality is that your survey has no observation component, a weak construction, and weak repetition. I would never trust the data that you provide to have any validity for showing any kind of relationship between variables, or providing any kinds of conclusions about people.

 

[bdogvn25]

Man, I'm vanilla/ basic

 

[Vidilo]

Completed it. It said 'old'. Did it mean me ;-)

 

[vozek]

Well, I didn't get any results. :'( But I would say, I'm pretty boring and "normal" except the younger woman kink. Oh and I know why I have that kink, it's because when I was young girls used to avoid me/show no real interest in dating me/me choosing to go after girls out of my league. So now with my more developed brain I constantly search for that missing experiance.

 

[Lonniel]

I am a simple Man i like incest and corruption most for the taabo.
Completed It, kind Fun.

 

[psychocolors]

as i expected i was in to about 90 percent of the options

 

[User_31927]

didnt got a result.
what a waste of time.

 

[Kernist]

The worst were questions about boobs and ass - big or small? What is big and what is small? Is big DD or H? Where is average answer?

 

[Suntec]

Some questions are hard to answer. Sometimes it just depends on my mood. multiple choises would have been a good idea

 

[doctorpinch]

didnt got a result.
what a waste of time.

The results take time to process. I generally only do it once I get another 50 responses.
However, you can compare your responses to the general averages after 150 responses, which are posted back a couple of pages....

The worst were questions about boobs and ass - big or small? What is big and what is small? Is big DD or H? Where is average answer?

I think that's up to you to decide. From my perspective DD is big tits. H is HUGE tits. As and Bs are small tits to me. But the question is really asking what is your perspective on what you like. Do you like what you think of as big tits or small tits? (While the absolute answer might be somewhat useful to a game designer who's deciding between DDs and Hs for a game character, that wasn't the purpose of the survey. And if you're deciding between those two, you've already opted for big tits. The only question is whether you're angling for the relatively smaller (ha!) corner of the market that is no-limit on big tits.

Some questions are hard to answer. Sometimes it just depends on my mood. multiple choises would have been a good idea

Multiple choices vastly complicates the analysis. If you mark multiple choices, then when I'm trying to see if there are correlations between, say, small tits and incest, I wouldn't know how to characterize that respondent.

 

[Kernist]

Multiple choices vastly complicates the analysis. If you mark multiple choices, then when I'm trying to see if there are correlations between, say, small tits and incest, I wouldn't know how to characterize that respondent.

Man, you are basically saying you prefer worse quality data because it's easier to analyze. If person filling the questionnaire thinks provided answers don't really show his view what's the point?

Another thing, kinks - we have cuckold, cheating and ntr. Am I cuckolded or am I stealing someone from someone? Am I cheating or am I being cheated on? Depending on that my answer would be different.

 

[doctorpinch]

Man, you are basically saying you prefer worse quality data because it's easier to analyze. If person filling the questionnaire thinks provided answers don't really show his view what's the point?

Another thing, kinks - we have cuckold, cheating and ntr. Am I cuckolded or am I stealing someone from someone? Am I cheating or am I being cheated on? Depending on that my answer would be different.

I don't think the data is "worse quality". I think it just potentially different data. If I allowed multiple selections for "tits", with the options being "small is justice", "bigger is better", and "medium is marvelous", there would be a difference between someone who chose only one option and someone who chose all three. By the same token, there is still a difference between the data I have, someone who chose "small is justice" and someone who chose "bigger is better". The fact that the category of those who chose small is justice includes both those who would choose it all the time and those who were forced to choose it because it was their best option doesn't degrade the quality of the data.

Having more granular data isn't necessarily better. More granular data means that I need a bigger sample, and my sample is realistically too small as it is.

 

[Kernist]

I don't think the data is "worse quality". I think it just potentially different data. If I allowed multiple selections for "tits", with the options being "small is justice", "bigger is better", and "medium is marvelous", there would be a difference between someone who chose only one option and someone who chose all three. By the same token, there is still a difference between the data I have, someone who chose "small is justice" and someone who chose "bigger is better". The fact that the category of those who chose small is justice includes both those who would choose it all the time and those who were forced to choose it because it was their best option doesn't degrade the quality of the data.

Having more granular data isn't necessarily better. More granular data means that I need a bigger sample, and my sample is realistically too small as it is.

Well, if someone would choose all 3 sizes it's the same as answering "it doesn't matter to me" while choosing 2 options would mean "I am ok with with all sizes except...". I don't know why you consider "neither but if I have only two choices I will choose this" as a quality data, I would aim for what person really thinks, and giving them options small/average/big seem most reasonable.

I know more granular data can make research worse, but there is difference between manually inputting age and giving 3rd option in between 2 extremes like small and big. You are right about the sample, that's why any research without huge control group is worthless, however giving 3 options instead of 2 to some questions that deal in absolutes can only have positive effect, especially when people define differently what small or big breasts are.