discussion What're your thoughts on AI in general?

[P.M.G]

I think it's best for AI to stay away from drawing. For me, they just add a bit too much shine. Unless I'm only seeing those kinds of shiny pictures. And AI art is bad because it lacks skills, for me, again. They are good at helping, though.

 

[pretz]

very pro, the tractor didnt get rid of farmers. We just need ubi

 

[User_179621]

i think its hilarious for memes

 

[ooshlaga]

i think its pretty good for personal use, but using ai to generate a ton of slop content for money or to scam people isn't great

 

[Dnch2019]

Its gonna be the end of society.... Kinda joking kinda not.

 

[HuiEtyud]

AI is a tool. Will people over-rely on it? Yeah. It levels the playing field (somewhat) for people who lack skills in various areas.

I wanted to learn to code a webpage. First, I went through some of those tutorial pages that goes step-by-step, and after I built a basic page, I went to ChatGPT and asked it to build a gallery page, because I wanted to make one myself (I wanted to see what the formatting looked like in real-time, and if I used the "inspect" on an actual gallery website, it's always flooded with superfluous code that I can't parse), and then played around with it.

I'm also artistically declined like a motherfucker. My PFP is one I made with Gab.AI for my D&D character (he's supposed to be a dragon-blood sorcerer, but the prompt "gold dragon scales on his face" didn't quite translate well, but hey. It still looks cool as fuck).

If you use it to assist, that's great. That's what, I believe, it's for. But don't just use it to do everything. Use it to get better so you don't need to use the AI. If you can't draw, make images and then trace over it so you can learn how to draw. If you don't know how to program a game, use AI to build a framework and learn how program.

 

[sommerlager]

It's a tool, not more, not less. But it will replace many jobs. It won't be the downfall of humanity though. We always managed change. Early adaptors get rewarded.

 

[G35p3n5t]

It is a tool. Like many other tools there is potential for abuse, and it is not infallible. The problems start when corpos try to use it as a complete replacement for the human element and carrying out mass plagiarism via unauthorized large scale data harvesting. Corpos stealing from the masses is nothing new though. A lot of AI is still very unreliable when it comes to complex operations, especially given its habit of confabulating and hallucinating. Those who thought they could just send everyone below executive level home are in for a rude awakening.

For small scale, personal use, though? I don't really see a problem.

 

[GreenWhiteDoor]

So this is a tough one: AI for the correct purposes and using its strength is really nice. I do hope that in the future we get more games and faster because of the heavy use of AI. That being sai, I think that people still don't know how to deal with this new technology (i mean the chapgpt, dalle, kinda stuff). One thing that people don't realize is that computers are deterministic, so AI have no inherent creativity. If you want something new you need to thing by yourself. The AI will just rehash some cotent that was already on its database and present it to you.

Maybe in the future, when the tech is more mature and people learn good ways of using it we will get some huge benefit.

 

[Takosan]

I think, in terms of art, it is by definition derivative garbage slop, so I'm sure it'll be great to make like. Marvel movies, but I don't watch those movies anyway. I do think it also just looks like shit.
I do think there will be other actually useful applications of the technology though.

 

[pcxxx]

helpfull most of the time, can be used to harm and cause damage

 

[degenmans]

slop machine must perish

 

[angband]

As someone who has lived long enough to see quite a bit of the evolution of computing, AI on a technical level is actually pretty amazing. I was around in the days of the 80s and 90s text adventures and remember a lot of variance in the quality of text parsers (Infocom was probably the industry leader). If AI had been around at this level back in those days, I'll bet those games would have been a lot higher quality, at least in terms of being able to work in natural language. I also remember using a few word processors that tried to offer grammar checking. It was hit-and-miss, usually based on figuring out what parts of speech your words were and what order they typically appeared in common sentences. Again, AI technology would have made those incredible.

So I guess what I am saying is that seeing what AI can do in the best cases and remembering the way things used to be makes me pretty impressed with what it can do. It has a ton of potential.

Now the negativity: I think the early days of AI have been handled very poorly. So many competing AI companies trying to stand out from the pack and be first to market has led to a lot of boundary pushing and disregard for quality. AI creators basically shoveled everything into the mix and hoped that the algorithm could be taught to figure out the good from the bad. The result has been that the dregs of the internet and sources that were never intended to be taken seriously (like The Onion) got put on equal footing with well-researched and reputable content and what you get is Google telling you that you should eat one rock a day to get your minerals in your diet. Now we have reached the point where the slop is overwhelming good content, and AI is feeding on AI, and it's like taking a photocopy of a photocopy; all the existing errors get passed on and more get introduced. I think we have passed the point of no return where it is now impossible to sort out what to throw out and what to keep, unless someone decides to just throw everything out and start over with models based initially on hand-curated sources and progresses conservatively to allow garbage to get filtered out. But that will mean starting out way behind the pack and proceeding slower than they do, so there is going to be a lot of reluctance to do that.

I agree with the people who have said that AI will fail not due to becoming sentient and going rogue, but just on the principle of "garbage in, garbage out" and additive errors over time. And given the potential it could have had, that is a shame.

 

[CoolCatK]

I'm not a fan of AI, but it's a bit more specific than that.

I think that AI used for an individual to express an idea that they can otherwise not afford to see realized in a visual format and without the intention of profit, is fine. Good even. Likewise the use of AI as a valuable tool to aid in the creative process is also a good thing. Other uses of AI in non-artistic fields is perfectly fine.

The issue I have with AI is when it is used to replace artists, to remove jobs and to cut corners. That is unacceptable. Unfortunately corporations are not well known for their ability to recognize careful nuance like that.

 

[MarioOnEdge]

AI is good ONLY for some automations to make some difficult operations easier

AI should never be used for art

 

[max.smith1987]

As with most things in small doses and used in a sensible manner it's fine, but unfortunately we live in a world of mass production/consumption so it's getting overused and used to cut corners (mainly taking jobs from actual artists)

 

[zygge]

the more I see of it, the less I worry about Skynet

 

[DrPerks]

It has its uses. I do think if people don't adapt, a lot of people will be out of a job.

 

[Disguyadood]

using AI as a support tool as in help you clean up your projects and not use it to just create art, I am fine with cause that what its for...not creating art and saying you put a lot of effort into cause you didnt do anything. Cleaning up some messes or help add more to the scene using your own work great job that how it should be. I keep on hearing "Ai technology today is at its worst tomorrow will be better" nah it just keeps getting worst and worst and worst.

 

[Connoisseur739]

AI is an immensely powerful tool that can be applied in all fields. But it isa also prone to gross misuse, particularly in terms of IP, copyright, or deepfakes.