discussion Thoughts on Japanese Porn & Jaws The Movie (Game Dev with Some Questions)

[LewisCarroll]

I'm getting into a groove with story, animation & programing. So, I don't want to second guess myself and have to re-do large scenes. Even with two higher end computers rendering can really chew up time.

I'm a big fan of Japanese porn and Jaws. Both de-emphasis the money-shot aspects and concentrate more on other things like erotica (JAV) & story (Jaws). The shark in Jaws only gets around 4%-5% total screen time and JAV have mosaics. Is less really more in porn? And, if there is less porn, is it then just an erotic game? So far I'm in about 30 renders and 1 animation in with no sex. It's pure story, mystery and intrigue right now. All things being equal, would you be interested in less hardcore sex and more tease and imagination?

If you were interested in the story, how much time would you give it before you'd quit because there wasn't a sex scene yet?

PS
Yes, the story is meant to be sexual in nature. Think of Emmanuelle movie series with hopefully a better story.

 

[goons]

Depends on whether the art and story can carry the game. Let me put it another way, if you played a VN game with no porn and no expectation of it that's what your game would need to be. A bonus to that is that you could sell/market a SFW version

 

[Yourmonster]

I think the only difference in Erotic Vs Porn for games is if we see sex, oral or otherwise. A lot of erotic games will push for everything up to sex, then fade, before just picking up where it left off.
The less is more approach works if you want to hide things from the viewer for tension, its why Jaws worked. We only see the shark when its needed, but every moment without it is "When will the shark show up?"
This in a porn or erotic game can be used for great effect if you lean heavy on story and hide the fun bits behind a narrative that pushes it forward with player input, turning it from "They are going to put out anyway" into "Man, when are we fucking(hopefully in a non-annoying way)"
This won't stop the skippers from just brute forcing it, but it will help with the less is more approach if you want to go that way.
Or this is silly and im a gooner.

 

[NightDive]

Both de-emphasis the money-shot aspects and concentrate more on other things like erotica (JAV) & story (Jaws).

The slower burns are way hotter, so long as there is a pay off for the tension

 

[goons]

The slower burns are way hotter, so long as there is a pay off for the tension

True that, you really get to build a connection with the characters during that time. Though thinking about slow burns, I feel like a lot of slow-burn games should end soon after the action finally happens since so much weight was placed on the act nothing else feels that important after the goal of doing the deed was achieved

 

[NightDive]

I feel like a lot of slow-burn games should end soon after the action finally happens since so much weight was placed on the act nothing else feels that important after the goal of doing the deed was achieved

thats just when you intro new characters!

 

[goons]

thats just when you intro new characters!

True, but wouldn't that work better as a sequel? you get to have a slight time skip allowing you to reposition your characters and have some unneeded events happen off-screen, or a new development that can be used to further the plot.
That and the satisfaction of having completed a game

 

[LewisCarroll]

Depends on whether the art and story can carry the game. Let me put it another way, if you played a VN game with no porn and no expectation of it that's what your game would need to be. A bonus to that is that you could sell/market a SFW version

Yeah, that's kinda a given. Great stories tend to do well no matter what. This is going to be far from SFW. It will have loli, incest, anthropomorphic (magical beasts), and other elements that will push it way into NSFW I won't even attempt to make money on it. My limitations are mostly programing right now. AI has stopped being helpful at this point as it seems to want to default to more obscure solutions vs simple and elegant ones.

Or this is silly and im a gooner.

Na, that's the idea I'm going for... but in my case I will have more money shots

 

[goons]

Well, keep us posted. A game with Loli AND a good story is rare

 

[Ashwind]

It is not impossible to make a good AVN with little to no porn, but in my opinion it would be a good AVN despite the lack of porn and not because of it. I think most people want some porn from their AVNs. So even if you plan to focus on story I think a good sex scene early on will help hook in the players. Though if you're not planning to monetize it you can stick to your artistic vision and try and do something more niche. There are still several examples of that route working as well.

 

[dolmzalskiD]

I'd be interested to see it done successfully.

 

[User_143254]

Why the poll? Honestly think its a BIG mistake as an artist to ask what other people like. Who cares? Create something that turns YOU on and simply let ur passion guide you in ur artistic choices. It will shine through ur game in a good way.

 

[jimmyNeutron]

I'm interested in your vision, keep us posted when you finish the game.

 

[grimsbysteve]

As long as there's a sex payoff in there somewhere, a slow burn, emphasising the taboo/corruption, really builds tension. It also gives you a chance to flesh out believable characters, which will get the player engaged and add replay value.

The only games I've ever come back to have had characters and scenes I remember fondly. Get your "shark" living rent free in the players head and they'll keep coming back.

I'm no game developer, but I'd suggest making it clear in your synopsis/blurb for the game that it's a slow burn, maybe head off a few potential complaints about the slow burn.

 

[truetrue]

Personally I like realistic body types. Nothing turns me off faster than seeing a character who's body mass is 90% breasts. I also like smaller breasts, but unfortunately you only really see those in loli characters which I'm not really the biggest fan of. Even worse is when a character seems to have a normal chest but as soon as the shirt comes off they get depicted with tripple Ds or something.