Questions about AI-generated stories and stories in general

[Dubbie]

Sure they exists. The Janitor one mentioned earlier is one of them.
Novel.ai and kobold.ai are generators you have to download or pay to, but those are really got at making stories, not just a typical chat bot back and forth, but actuall stories.
Also perchance has no limit at all with it's story generations.

My biggest gripe so far with Janitor AI is how short of a memory span the AI seems to have. You may introduce a character at some point, spend a lot of time with that character present, the character leaves, and when you bring the character back 20 prompts later, the introduce themselves like they had never met you. Other times, specific things happened with a character, and 10 prompts or less later, that character don't remember those things or have a completely wrong recollection. Heck, I've had a character break into my house, and 5 prompts later, when recounting the events, they describe it as I having invented them over.

I'm not familial with Novel.ai, Kobold.ai and Perchance. Do any of them keep better track of chat/prompt history?

 

[ErzuzB]

My biggest gripe so far with Janitor AI is how short of a memory span the AI seems to have. You may introduce a character at some point, spend a lot of time with that character present, the character leaves, and when you bring the character back 20 prompts later, the introduce themselves like they had never met you. Other times, specific things happened with a character, and 10 prompts or less later, that character don't remember those things or have a completely wrong recollection. Heck, I've had a character break into my house, and 5 prompts later, when recounting the events, they describe it as I having invented them over.

I'm not familial with Novel.ai, Kobold.ai and Perchance. Do any of them keep better track of chat/prompt history?

This is a common problem with Story Ai. It can only process so many tokens until it slows down very hard.
That's why many have a recent memory section, that either the ai fills in or you have to do it yourself.

Here the one from Janitor:

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The AI is sometimes not efficient enough to make a proper summary, so you have to do it yourself.

The faster/better the ai, the more information it can process in that summary. And a long session will lose details.

Personally I haven't yet done anything with Novel.ai (it costs money) and Kobold.ai (you have to download it and need a good computer to run it properly). So I can't talk about it with certainty.

Perchance has several generators, this is the most common used one (

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), it's also a chat bot.
It uses both a lore section, where you enter important stuff and a generated memories section.

Other generators edit summaries in the story if it gets to long, to keep the memory better. I am quite content with how it works. You would have to check it out yourself.
Of course it has it's own little quirks you'll learn to get annoyed by. I know Janitor having some typical phrases or situations it loved to use, it's too long to remember them tho.


The overall thing is, the better the processing power, the more information it can process at the same time. And like with all AI, you have to guide it and help out to get a proper and good story.

 

[lewdcuddler]

Janitor AI was good for a while, sure I still use it but having a queue to access the site, not allowed to have nsfw images as the cover image anymore and no loli content. At least you can still talk to the characters even after they get deleted/privated.

But then theres the issue with the bots talking for the user which is never good and can't be fixed usually.

Try chub.ai then. Both the site chat (I don't use it, I have Silly Tavern with models configured in it), and characters to download. If your GPU is good enough, you can import such character definition into Backyard.ai and enjoy fully local chats.
Or configure openrouter with SillyTavern and enjoy good, free, quite uncensored models.

(I used to play on Janitor as I used to love Yodayo. Alas...)

 

[teldel335]

Well, I call it a chatbot, but it's generative AI. Heard of Janitor AI? A site with a list of characters, each programmed with specific personality, background, scenarios, etc. It's 95% narration and 5% dialog. While I suppose that you could treat it like a chatbot and just respond with dialog on behalf of the MC, you can instead give it narrative instructions or broadly dictate general events, the story unfolds, adding 3 or 4 short paragraph before asking for more input.

I shouln't call it a Chatbot. The correct description would be Generative-AI-Powered Interactive Non-Visual Novel.



I suppose you're right. it's probably not worth sharing.

I guess was taken aback at how interactive it got. Regarding generative AI in general, ChatGPT and others like it left me unimpressed with the artificial way they express themselves, and how limited and restricted they are in what they gets to say. But Janitor AI impressed me with its wide array of pre-programmed characters, its extremely wide flexibility, and how the whole experience turned into an AI-powered interactive novel. Maybe I'm just easily impressed.

i think the big reason theyre not worth sharing is that theyre only really interesting when youre the one controlling the story, but for others it probably just sounds like more boring ai slop with the same feel, unless you end up with a really unique story somehow. also doesnt help that they are so limited that anything longer than 3-4 pages (or however you measure it) has the ai going full dementia lol
maybe if you make something thats really interesting it would be worth reading, but at that poitn its probably you doing more of the work than the ai, so maybe you should just start writing for real

 

[teldel335]

No AI is not always trained with realistic images, people can choose the type of images that they want to produce with prompts. I personally choose not to do realistic AI images with my prompts.

completely unrelated but wheres that gif in your signature from?? looks cool as hell

 

[Deprecated😈]

I have a few questions about sharing fictional erotic stories on LC.

First, I recall that, a while back, there was about removing any and all AI-generated images from the regular forums. My understanding is that any such content was not exclusively limited to the "Prestigious" forums and forbidden in the rest. But what about AI-generated stories? Not VNs, no visual content of any kind, just...written stories. Are they also exclusive to the Prestigious forums?​

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Second: Content sporting a tag reserved for a more restricted audience are located in subforums only accessible to members that should a minimum of willingness to particiate in forums. Games+, a subforum of Games, comes to mind. Should erotic stories sporting similar tags be placed in a subforum (let's call it Stories+) of Stories?​

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Third: It is my understanding that the majority of LC members are here for the games. Would sharing erotic stories be an absolute and total waste of time, or are there a few of you who would actually be curious enough to read them?​

Oh, and if the first question doesn't make it obvious, I am not an author and do not claim to have any writing talent that I know. But experimenting with modern generative-AI-powered chat bots have resulted in impressive results (at least compared to what was available a mere year ago or so?). Such stories don't have any business being posted if forums dedicated to real authors, but I still I thought they were worth a read.

You could share your story in this thread I've made.

https://lewdcorner.com/threads/writers-guild-story-sharing.16039/

 

[Hanz Feltersnatch]

completely unrelated but wheres that gif in your signature from?? looks cool as hell

Love Death + Robots season 1: Good Hunting, I converted it into a gif from this clip...

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