discussion Admin/Mods/Dev's Opinions and Rules on Games

[LewisCarroll]

Not sure where to put this, but I'd like a bit of clarification on how to distribute games. I've been working on two and to reach the largest audience I've come up with a plan, but I don't know if it would be allowed or scrutinized.

1. I want to compile 2 or 3 distributions. Vanilla, Expanded and Taboo. Vanilla would go everywhere (F95z,LC,A.T.F, others). Expanded would go here and Taboo to A.T.F.. The vanilla version would be self contained. The other two would only have 2 files (archived/obfuscated code) and would be rather large as they would contain all the added files (Vanilla files + Expanded files + Taboo files). The files would overwrite the vanilla ones. Any issues with this here on LC? (I understand other sites have their own policies).

2. I don't want to maintain a thread, but would like access to it so I may answer questions and upload game files directly to mods so they can review them.

3. I'm not an expert programmer. Compiling three versions using isolated and exclusionary files is the best method I can think of to place less work on myself. Some of these renders are taking 20-30 minutes even with 4080 Super so I'm testing commands like this in options.rpy:

init python:
build.classify('game/flashback/**', None) # Exclude all files in flashback/
build.classify('game/taboo_scene.rpy', None) # Exclude specific file

This look OK?

Thanks for any feedback on this. If I need to make a ticket to ask or answer specific questions just DM me.

 

[Nastastic]

What's the difference between expanded and taboo?

 

[LewisCarroll]

What's the difference between expanded and taboo?

Not entirely sure, but a.t.f. allows much much more. Perhaps flashbacks to smols stuff. Nothing hardcore per-say. I'm not even entirely sure about the limitations here. I was trying to find the firm rules about Game+ as they seem to run counter to the open rules.

 

[brutulf]

I think taboo patches are fine? At least there are plenty landlady --> mom incest patches AFAIK.

Btw, judging from the docs, you should be able to do something like this:

# Create a new file list that'll be added both to lc and a tf release
build.classify("game/flashback/**", "extended")

# Create a new file list for a tf only
build.classify("game/flashback2/**", "ultimate")

# Declare the package.
build.package("lc-package", "zip", "extended")

# Declare the package.
build.package("at-f-package", "zip", "extended ultimate")

 

[ErzuzB]

Expanded would go here and Taboo to A.T.F..

Not entirely sure, but a.t.f. allows much much more.

The only thing A.T.F. allows that isn't allowed here is toddlercon (smols that doesn't go to school yet).
Everything else (appart from too realistic AI in games) is fine. So I dunno if an extra version is even needed.

I don't want to maintain a thread, but would like access to it so I may answer questions and upload game files directly to mods so they can review them.

Of course you can just hop in and partake in the threads, that's no different for all three sites.
You can also provide the downloads to your game yourself. Either via request or just put it in the game thread as a new post and report it with the proper report.

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F.95.zone:

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Uploaders will do the rest.


But you can still be the owner of the game thread.
Even then you don't want to maintain the OP (provide uploads, do the updates, etc.) yourself and can leave that to the uploaders.
This is true for all sites.



But, be prepared to run into some issues on F.95.zone. People will sooner or later know about the other versions and start to ask questions, others will start to talk about that content on F.95.zone and some will even share the links there. Which both isn't allowed and can cause trouble, like overmoderation or even a temporary locked thread.

 

[User_61141]

I`ll try to keep it simple because I'm really busy with IRL work, but I guess you have some questions that not everyone can answer

Any issues with this here on LC? (I understand other sites have their own policies).

I don't see any issue so far

2. I don't want to maintain a thread, but would like access to it so I may answer questions and upload game files directly to mods so they can review them.

almost all the game devs that own a thread here do exactly that, and we are happy with that. We keep the thread organized and updated for you, no problem

I'm not even entirely sure about the limitations here. I was trying to find the firm rules about Game+ as they seem to run counter to the open rules.

changed once or twice, but now is pretty simple. If the game can be found on big places like F.95 goes to public area even with a loli tag, otherwise goes to plus area. So far no one ever created a game with realistic AI so we don't have any policy against them yet

The only thing A.T.F. allows that isn't allowed here is toddlercon (smols that doesn't go to school yet).

That rule was changed around October 2024 if I remember correctly, but never announced to avoid people who don't like X type of content complaining that it exists. I think the first upload that wouldn't pass the old rules was this one, uploaded by myself https://lewdcorner.com/threads/sham...ncensored-v1-0-ekicon-research-society.15187/
but I can be wrong, I don't have time to check everything right now.
I think I replied the hard part, the OP should listen to ErzuzB for the rest, and good luck with your game. Any issue, feel free to ping me or ask for help

 

[ErzuzB]

That rule was changed around October 2024 if I remember correctly, but never announced to avoid people who don't like X type of content complaining that it exists. I think the first upload that wouldn't pass the old rules was this one, uploaded by myself https://lewdcorner.com/threads/sham...ncensored-v1-0-ekicon-research-society.15187/
but I can be wrong, I don't have time to check everything right now.

If so, maybe it's only true for anime/cartoon?
Because I checked one of the games I knew had that, and it isn't here anymore -> https://lewdcorner.com/threads/bogo-chapter-three-pestus-games.2644/

 

[User_114674]

If so, maybe it's only true for anime/cartoon?

I... look, I know you have the best of the intentions. But I don't say things without having the authority to say so

Because I checked one of the games I knew had that, and it isn't here anymore -> https://lewdcorner.com/threads/bogo-chapter-three-pestus-games.2644/

For the old deleted/banned games we would have to talk and remove the old "banned games" list, what I said goes for updates from this year on. When we have some time and patience, we will see what should we do with those old (and some hated) games that were deleted/banned a long time ago

 

[User_183493]

Your setup sounds pretty well thought-out, especially given you're working solo and want to reach different audiences. Having a Vanilla / Expanded / Taboo tiered distribution is actually a smart way to manage content boundaries for various platforms, as long as you're transparent about what each version includes.

About the file structure — having the Taboo and Expanded versions as overwrite packs makes sense from a development efficiency standpoint, though keep in mind that some players might get confused if the install process isn’t clearly explained. A simple step-by-step text file or launcher could help avoid support headaches.

As for the build.classify() exclusions, that looks correct. It’s the standard way to exclude specific files or folders from a Ren'Py build. Just double-check that:

• You're running the build process cleanly each time (to avoid leftovers from old builds)
• Your excluded files aren’t referenced in the Vanilla build script or they'll throw errors during compile

Regarding LC (or any specific site), you’d probably want a mod to confirm directly about thread ownership without regular maintenance, but in general, as long as the core content fits within the site’s rules and your post is clear, you should be fine. Just make sure you're not distributing incomplete builds in a way that could violate platform standards.


Your render times sound brutal though — you might want to batch render overnight or look into denoising tricks if you haven’t already. Good luck with the project, sounds like you’ve got a good handle on it!

 

[brutulf]

But, be prepared to run into some issues on F.95.zone. People will sooner or later know about the other versions and start to ask questions, others will start to talk about that content on F.95.zone and some will even share the links there. Which both isn't allowed and can cause trouble, like overmoderation or even a temporary locked thread.

Honestly don't fully get f.95 rules, Babysitting Cream and Breeding Season are allowed, but according to their rules as written I don't think they're supposed to be.

How're you planning to have alternate content btw LewisCaroll, is it just that certain characters can be LI in the extended cut and not in the regular cut, or are you planning to have alternate art with aged down characters?

So far no one ever created a game with realistic AI so we don't have any policy against them yet

I wanted to ask if you could make a preemptive policy against them, but then I realized that it'd be hard to define "too realistic" and your time is probably spend elsewhere than trying to come up with good rules for content that doesn't even exist yet.

Let's hope everyone remains sensible enough not to mess with realistic AI.

When we have some time and patience, we will see what should we do with those old (and some hated) games that were deleted/banned a long time ago

I know you're busy and all, but could I request a re-review of Lisland? new releases are banned because there's was a literal baby character introduced, but it's quite an awesome game.

https://lewdcorner.com/threads/lisland-0-15-8-sythmang.526/page-49

 

[sb112592]

I wanted to ask if you could make a preemptive policy against them, but then I realized that it'd be hard to define "too realistic" and your time is probably spend elsewhere than trying to come up with good rules for content that doesn't even exist yet.

If that is the case i'd say the best way to do it is to have them follow the same rules as if the game was just an image dump. So if an ai game has an image that is too spicy to post in the m+ ai image section then it shouldn't be in the m+ game section. Even that means making a new game section for p4

 

[User_61141]

Let's hope everyone remains sensible enough not to mess with realistic AI.

interesting, we have opposite opinions

I know you're busy and all, but could I request a re-review of Lisland? new releases are banned because there's was a literal baby character introduced, but it's quite an awesome game.

https://lewdcorner.com/threads/lisland-0-15-8-sythmang.526/page-49

I only have the 0.69S, but if you want is here

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now to update the thread is something for another day

If that is the case i'd say the best way to do it is to have them follow the same rules as if the game was just an image dump. So if an ai game has an image that is too spicy to post in the m+ ai image section then it shouldn't be in the m+ game section. Even that means making a new game section for p4

I loved this idea, so far we are really against games on prestige levels, but if we find a dev that goes a bit further, that would be a perfect way to handle that without censoring anything

 

[brutulf]

interesting, we have opposite opinions

I only have the 0.69S, but if you want is here

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now to update the thread is something for another day

I loved this idea, so far we are really against games on prestige levels, but if we find a dev that goes a bit further, that would be a perfect way to handle that without censoring anything

Thank you most kindly ^^

 

[faplordship]

hwat chnaged

 

[GettinOlder]

I have seen users posting something about A.T.F., but I have no idea what that is. Im sure you're not talking about Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. What is it? All Time Favorite, At the Front, All in the Family??? Just wondered.

 

[husko]

you develop this for mods in games ?

 

[exlurker]

I have seen users posting something about A.T.F., but I have no idea what that is. Im sure you're not talking about Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. What is it? All Time Favorite, At the Front, All in the Family??? Just wondered.

You are too late, atf is shutting down.

 

[GettinOlder]

You are too late, atf is shutting down.

Thank you.

 

[exlurker]

Thank you.

I spoke too soon, the admin changed their mind suddenly. But I'm sure registration will remain closed until the attacks end and then some. Maybe in the future invites are available.

 

[dodsh]

interesting, we have opposite opinions

I only have the 0.69S, but if you want is here

You must be registered to see links

now to update the thread is something for another day

I loved this idea, so far we are really against games on prestige levels, but if we find a dev that goes a bit further, that would be a perfect way to handle that without censoring anything

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